Re: [Samba] Cross-subnet browsing and oplocks

2004-09-29 Thread Michael Kelly
Hi,

Thank you for your response.

I use the tun device as it seemed it was a bit easier to setup. I did
read that tap was a bit better with windows, but other than the oplocks
issue with Samba I have not had any real problem with the openVPN setup
and Samba. I think I will setup a test openVPN server running a tap
device and see if there are any apparent differences.

I have read though the Samba manual regarding oplocks and agree that
they are a bit difficult to understand, okay, quite a bit. On my regular
office network oplocks have worked fine since I started running the
Samba server and it is only with the introduction of the VPN that I have
seen any troubles. I have also read about a few file types causes issues
with oplocks, I had problems with excel files, but it seems to be okay
now, well nobody is complaining anymore anyway.

I am not to familiar with pptp other than it is a point-to-point
tunnelling protocol and the things I have read discuss using it with
dial-up, we have no dedicated dailup access to our networks.

For clarity sake, there appears to be no oplocks whatsoever when a
client over the openVPN connection accesses a file on the server. Their
connection is logged by samba, they show up in smbstatus, including all
mounted drives, IP address, and username, just no oplocks.

I think one of the first things I need to do is upgrade the Samba
server to the latest version, but that will have to wait until the
weekend as it is currently in use.

As a first attempt I will try a tap device on the openVPN connection

Thank you for your help and I will post any notable results.
Michael Kelly


>>> rruegner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28/09/2004 5:01:44 pm >>>
Hi Michael,

do you use the tap device?
like this ( man openvpn advice tap instead of tun devices for win
networks)

#example conf
#my partners dns name
remote your.partner.dns
#kind of device
dev tap0
float
#tunnel ips my tunnel nic  partners tunnel nic
ifconfig 192.168.10.2 255.255.255.0
#what to do if comming up
up /etc/openvpn/your.partner.dns.conf # optional, but good for setting
route
# timeouts
ping   15
ping-restart  300 # 5 minutes
resolv-retry  300 # 5 minutes
persist-tun
persist-key
# compression (optional)
comp-lzo
# verbosity (optional)
verb 5
#user and group
user nobody
group nogroup
secret /etc/openvpnkey
#mtu
#mtu-test
tun-mtu 1500
#daemonize
daemon
#tune
#fragment 1400
#mssfix 1400
tun-mtu-extra 64

i have a few setups with pdc and bdc sambas across
openvpn networks and they work quite well, i never found some
oplocks problems ( what makes not sure that they are some )
but in 6 Months on 3 Servers with 100 Users and gigs of files
nobody talked about that.

Study the subnet browsing stuff from samba,
using openvpn as laptop clients i found not satisfactory
i use pptp vor my roadwarriors.

oplocks are difficult to understand, i had my troubles with them in the

past but now it worked from default with samba 3.07
but i read there are a few filetypes which making special trouble with
them.
Maybe this was usefull for you its a complex theme
Regards

Michael Kelly schrieb:
> Hello all,
> 
> I will give you a few details first.
> 
> In my office I am running Samba 3.02a as a simple file serve and a
WINS
> server. It currently serves about 11 employees. That setup, other
than a
> couple of minor things works fine.
> 
> I administrate a remote office as well that is part of the same
> company, there are 3 employees. In that office I have a Linux
gateway
> running openVPN 2.0beta11 as a client which connects to our office
so
> that they can utilize our file server. They can connect without any
> issues and get any resources they need from the file server. They
also
> register on the WINS server listed above. That same Linux gateway is
> also running Samba 3.07 for the sole purpose of browse list
> syncronization. My routed openVPN solution does not allow broadcasts
> across its tunnel. Again this is working fine, They register with
WINS,
> use WINS for NetBIOS lookups, and use resources from the Samba file
> server.
> 
> Also, I have two remote employees that connect to our network using
an
> openVPN client on laptops running win2000 Pro. Again, these
connections
> work great and they are able to register with the WINS server, edit
> files, what have you.
> 
> The problem I am having is that oplocks do not seem to function for
any
> of the users connected via VPN. When I look at the status of the
file
> server using smbstatus, I can see all of the connected users, both in
my
> subnet and the ones connecting across the VPN, as well as being able
to
> see the shares they have mapped.
> 
> I guess I am not sure why clients are able to open files across the
VPN
> but not have the oplocks engaged. I have no turned off locks on any
of
> the shares and, as I said earlier, users from my physical office
receive
> locks when they open files, but remote users do not.
> 
> If I open a file on a machine on the office network, it is

Re: [Samba] Cross-subnet browsing and oplocks

2004-09-28 Thread rruegner
Hi Michael,
do you use the tap device?
like this ( man openvpn advice tap instead of tun devices for win networks)
#example conf
#my partners dns name
remote your.partner.dns
#kind of device
dev tap0
float
#tunnel ips my tunnel nic  partners tunnel nic
ifconfig 192.168.10.2 255.255.255.0
#what to do if comming up
up /etc/openvpn/your.partner.dns.conf # optional, but good for setting route
# timeouts
ping   15
ping-restart  300 # 5 minutes
resolv-retry  300 # 5 minutes
persist-tun
persist-key
# compression (optional)
comp-lzo
# verbosity (optional)
verb 5
#user and group
user nobody
group nogroup
secret /etc/openvpnkey
#mtu
#mtu-test
tun-mtu 1500
#daemonize
daemon
#tune
#fragment 1400
#mssfix 1400
tun-mtu-extra 64
i have a few setups with pdc and bdc sambas across
openvpn networks and they work quite well, i never found some
oplocks problems ( what makes not sure that they are some )
but in 6 Months on 3 Servers with 100 Users and gigs of files
nobody talked about that.
Study the subnet browsing stuff from samba,
using openvpn as laptop clients i found not satisfactory
i use pptp vor my roadwarriors.
oplocks are difficult to understand, i had my troubles with them in the 
past but now it worked from default with samba 3.07
but i read there are a few filetypes which making special trouble with them.
Maybe this was usefull for you its a complex theme
Regards

Michael Kelly schrieb:
Hello all,
I will give you a few details first.
In my office I am running Samba 3.02a as a simple file serve and a WINS
server. It currently serves about 11 employees. That setup, other than a
couple of minor things works fine.
I administrate a remote office as well that is part of the same
company, there are 3 employees. In that office I have a Linux gateway
running openVPN 2.0beta11 as a client which connects to our office so
that they can utilize our file server. They can connect without any
issues and get any resources they need from the file server. They also
register on the WINS server listed above. That same Linux gateway is
also running Samba 3.07 for the sole purpose of browse list
syncronization. My routed openVPN solution does not allow broadcasts
across its tunnel. Again this is working fine, They register with WINS,
use WINS for NetBIOS lookups, and use resources from the Samba file
server.
Also, I have two remote employees that connect to our network using an
openVPN client on laptops running win2000 Pro. Again, these connections
work great and they are able to register with the WINS server, edit
files, what have you.
The problem I am having is that oplocks do not seem to function for any
of the users connected via VPN. When I look at the status of the file
server using smbstatus, I can see all of the connected users, both in my
subnet and the ones connecting across the VPN, as well as being able to
see the shares they have mapped.
I guess I am not sure why clients are able to open files across the VPN
but not have the oplocks engaged. I have no turned off locks on any of
the shares and, as I said earlier, users from my physical office receive
locks when they open files, but remote users do not.
If I open a file on a machine on the office network, it is locked and
even a remote client cannot overwrite it, but the vice versa is not
true. If a remote client opens a file I can open it on my machine in the
office network, change it and save it no problems.
I am really hoping someone can give me a hint to why this is occurring.
I know that in all cases the VPN is involved in the problem, but I am
trying to narrow it down to the root cause. 

Thanks
Michael Kelly
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[Samba] Cross-subnet browsing and oplocks

2004-09-28 Thread Michael Kelly
Hello all,

I will give you a few details first.

In my office I am running Samba 3.02a as a simple file serve and a WINS
server. It currently serves about 11 employees. That setup, other than a
couple of minor things works fine.

I administrate a remote office as well that is part of the same
company, there are 3 employees. In that office I have a Linux gateway
running openVPN 2.0beta11 as a client which connects to our office so
that they can utilize our file server. They can connect without any
issues and get any resources they need from the file server. They also
register on the WINS server listed above. That same Linux gateway is
also running Samba 3.07 for the sole purpose of browse list
syncronization. My routed openVPN solution does not allow broadcasts
across its tunnel. Again this is working fine, They register with WINS,
use WINS for NetBIOS lookups, and use resources from the Samba file
server.

Also, I have two remote employees that connect to our network using an
openVPN client on laptops running win2000 Pro. Again, these connections
work great and they are able to register with the WINS server, edit
files, what have you.

The problem I am having is that oplocks do not seem to function for any
of the users connected via VPN. When I look at the status of the file
server using smbstatus, I can see all of the connected users, both in my
subnet and the ones connecting across the VPN, as well as being able to
see the shares they have mapped.

I guess I am not sure why clients are able to open files across the VPN
but not have the oplocks engaged. I have no turned off locks on any of
the shares and, as I said earlier, users from my physical office receive
locks when they open files, but remote users do not.

If I open a file on a machine on the office network, it is locked and
even a remote client cannot overwrite it, but the vice versa is not
true. If a remote client opens a file I can open it on my machine in the
office network, change it and save it no problems.

I am really hoping someone can give me a hint to why this is occurring.
I know that in all cases the VPN is involved in the problem, but I am
trying to narrow it down to the root cause. 

Thanks
Michael Kelly
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