Re: [Samba] "Failed to create Users" problem. PLUS further evidence

2007-08-02 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel
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Daryl wrote, On 01-08-2007 18:05:
> Hi Felipe (and others),
>Thanks very much for your help so far.

You are welcome. :-)


> Felipe Augusto van de Wiel wrote:
>>>Assuming that's true, how would I change things 
>>> to get this problem to go away? Add some kind of group
>>> mapping or something? How does one go about doing that?
>>> 
>>  Did you checked the Release Notes? And the Samba
>> Official HOWTO about Group Mapping?
> 
> I did check out the Release Notes, but I'm no samba 
> expert so I didn't fully understand them. I will
> check out the HOWTO on Group Mapping later.

Before 3.0.23, Samba automagically create some
groupmaps when you use tdbsam, after that, you need to
create them by yourself.

The HOWTO has the specific commands, it is not
a big chapter and it is really relevant to read and
understand.


> I was hoping you (or anybody, really) had a quick way 
> to get this done that didn't require me to do lots of
> research beforehand. Maybe somebody has come across
> and solved this problem before, and knew exactly what
> to do with say 1 simple command or something. Anyway,
> I'll look into it myself later.

Unfortunately, Samba requires some understanding
of what's going on, in this specific case it is not one
line that will solve your problem, but a few of them and
there is not much point in repeating the docs here, this
part of the HOWTO is good and clear on what to do.

You will use 'net groupmap'. And of course, you
need to have *nix accounts on the server that are mapped
by Samba to convert users from "Windows world" in real
users and permissions.


>> Probably because you are not login anonymously from 
>> Windows. Anonymous logins are different from WinXP
>> logins, AFAICT.
> 
> Okay, I didn't know that. When I try as a 
> specific user, I get the following:
> 
> $ smbclient -L //www -U daryl
> Password:
> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE

Ok, this is a user/password error.

So, you are really missing the user or something
else related to permissions on the server.


>When I check the log for that machine on the 
> samba server, the log is filled with the same sorts
> of messages as the generic log.smbd (but what you see
> below is from "log.[worstation-name]"):
> 
> [2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_administrators(792)
>   create_builtin_administrators: Failed to create Administrators
> [2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_users(758)
>   create_builtin_users: Failed to create Users
> [2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_administrators(792)
>   create_builtin_administrators: Failed to create Administrators
> [2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_users(758)
>   create_builtin_users: Failed to create Users
> 
>I also saw this at the top of that log file, which seems strange 
> to me since I'm using tdbsam:
> 
> [2007/08/01 10:06:10, 0] passdb/pdb_smbpasswd.c:startsmbfilepwent(241)
>   startsmbfilepwent_internal: file /var/lib/samba/private/smbpasswd did 
> not exist. File successfully created.

I will keep my hint, try to create the groups,
users and groupmaps and make sure that everything is
consistent (SIDs, permissions, shares, usernames, uids,
gids).


> I tried increasing the log level to 10 before, and didn't see 
> anything unusual beyond the errors reported already. I will try that 
> again though, and get back to you.

It is not just the error, but also when the error happens
and what happened before it.


> Thanks again for the help.
> Sincerely,
>Daryl.


Kind regards,
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Re: [Samba] "Failed to create Users" problem. PLUS further evidence

2007-08-01 Thread Daryl

Hi Felipe (and others),

  Thanks very much for your help so far.

Felipe Augusto van de Wiel wrote:
   Assuming that's true, how would I change things 
to get this problem to go away? Add some kind of group

mapping or something? How does one go about doing that?


Did you checked the Release Notes? And the Samba
Official HOWTO about Group Mapping?
  


I did check out the Release Notes, but I'm no samba expert so I didn't 
fully understand them. I will check out the HOWTO on Group Mapping later.


I was hoping you (or anybody, really) had a quick way to get this done 
that didn't require me to do lots of research beforehand. Maybe somebody 
has come across and solved this problem before, and knew exactly what to 
do with say 1 simple command or something. Anyway, I'll look into it 
myself later.




Probably because you are not login anonymously from Windows.
  
	Anonymous logins are different from WinXP logins, AFAICT.
  


   Okay, I didn't know that. When I try as a specific user, I get 
the following:


$ smbclient -L //www -U daryl
Password:
session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE

  When I check the log for that machine on the samba server, the 
log is filled with the same sorts of messages as the generic log.smbd 
(but what you see below is from "log.[worstation-name]"):


[2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_administrators(792)
 create_builtin_administrators: Failed to create Administrators
[2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_users(758)
 create_builtin_users: Failed to create Users
[2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_administrators(792)
 create_builtin_administrators: Failed to create Administrators
[2007/08/01 15:03:06, 0] auth/auth_util.c:create_builtin_users(758)
 create_builtin_users: Failed to create Users

  I also saw this at the top of that log file, which seems strange 
to me since I'm using tdbsam:


[2007/08/01 10:06:10, 0] passdb/pdb_smbpasswd.c:startsmbfilepwent(241)
 startsmbfilepwent_internal: file /var/lib/samba/private/smbpasswd did 
not exist. File successfully created.





  
   I am going to hook up wireshark and watch what's going 
on at the network level when I get a free moment. In the

meantime, any suggestions whatsoever are welcome.



If everything is ok with you user and group account,
group mappings and SID, everything should be ok, getting the
error about builtin accounts with the fact of the migration
hint me to the BUILTIN Group problems.

It could be something else, increased log levels (10)
can help a lot in this context, you can also test simples
shares decreasing the security level just to figure out what's
going on


   I tried increasing the log level to 10 before, and didn't see 
anything unusual beyond the errors reported already. I will try that 
again though, and get back to you.


   Thanks again for the help.

Sincerely,

  Daryl.
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Re: [Samba] "Failed to create Users" problem. PLUS further evidence

2007-08-01 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel
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Daryl wrote, On 01-08-2007 11:48:
> Hi,
> 
> Felipe Augusto van de Wiel wrote:
>>  Hmmm... the builtin groups changed a little bit in the
>> course of Samba releases, did you check Release Notes or your
>> FC packages about that? If I'm not wrong this happened on 3.0.23
>>   
> 
>Assuming that's true, how would I change things 
> to get this problem to go away? Add some kind of group
> mapping or something? How does one go about doing that?

Did you checked the Release Notes? And the Samba
Official HOWTO about Group Mapping?


>I may try verifying that 3.0.23 introduced this 
> issue by rolling back samba to its previous version
> (whatever it was). We'll see.

Ok.


>ALSO
> 
>My Windows XP client also dual-boots into Fedora 
> 7 as well, and from Fedora 7 on the workstation I can
> access the samba shares:
> 
> $ smbclient -L //www
> Password:
> Anonymous login successful
> Domain=[HOME] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-2.fc7]
> 
> Sharename   Type  Comment
> -     ---
> homes   Disk  Home Directories
> files   Disk 
> IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba Server Version 
> 3.0.25b-2.fc7)
> Anonymous login successful
> Domain=[HOME] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-2.fc7]
> 
> Server   Comment
> ----
> WWW  Samba Server Version 3.0.25b-2.fc7
> 
> WorkgroupMaster
> ----
> HOME WWW

This is an anonymous login.


>But for some strange reason, the same machine in 
> Windows cannot see the "www" machine at all.

Probably because you are not login anonymously from Windows.


>My question is now:  What reason would there be for 
> the client to be able to connect to samba from Linux but
> not from Windows?

Anonymous logins are different from WinXP logins, AFAICT.


>I am going to hook up wireshark and watch what's going 
> on at the network level when I get a free moment. In the
> meantime, any suggestions whatsoever are welcome.

If everything is ok with you user and group account,
group mappings and SID, everything should be ok, getting the
error about builtin accounts with the fact of the migration
hint me to the BUILTIN Group problems.

It could be something else, increased log levels (10)
can help a lot in this context, you can also test simples
shares decreasing the security level just to figure out what's
going on.

Kind regards,
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Coordenadoria de Tecnologia da Informação (CTI) - SEDU/PARANACIDADE
http://www.paranacidade.org.br/   Phone: (+55 41 3350 3300)
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Re: [Samba] "Failed to create Users" problem. PLUS further evidence

2007-08-01 Thread Daryl

Hi,

Felipe Augusto van de Wiel wrote:

Hmmm... the builtin groups changed a little bit in the
course of Samba releases, did you check Release Notes or your
FC packages about that? If I'm not wrong this happened on 3.0.23
  


  Assuming that's true, how would I change things to get this 
problem to go away? Add some kind of group mapping or something? How 
does one go about doing that?
  I may try verifying that 3.0.23 introduced this issue by rolling 
back samba to its previous version (whatever it was). We'll see.


  ALSO

  My Windows XP client also dual-boots into Fedora 7 as well, and 
from Fedora 7 on the workstation I can access the samba shares:


$ smbclient -L //www
Password:
Anonymous login successful
Domain=[HOME] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-2.fc7]

   Sharename   Type  Comment
   -     ---
   homes   Disk  Home Directories
   files   Disk 
   IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba Server Version 
3.0.25b-2.fc7)

Anonymous login successful
Domain=[HOME] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-2.fc7]

   Server   Comment
   ----
   WWW  Samba Server Version 3.0.25b-2.fc7

   WorkgroupMaster
   ----
   HOME WWW


  But for some strange reason, the same machine in Windows cannot 
see the "www" machine at all.
  My question is now:  What reason would there be for the client to 
be able to connect to samba from Linux but not from Windows?
  I am going to hook up wireshark and watch what's going on at the 
network level when I get a free moment. In the meantime, any suggestions 
whatsoever are welcome.


Sincerely,

  Daryl.
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