[Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Prateek . Mathur
Hi,
I wanted to know is Samba able to notify any changes made to the 
shared directory or files to the clients instantly or not?
If I change/edit the file in a shared path and some clients are viewing 
that file will the changes get reflected to them instantly without doing a 
to refresh by the clients. 
I came across sumthing called  CHANGE NOTIFY in samba configuration 
parameters but i m not sure how to make use of it as it is set to YES by 
default.

Any help in this area as to how we can enable change notification in SAMBA 
will be extremely useful.


Regards,
Prateek Mathur
Software Engineer


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Re: [Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:06:02PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wanted to know is Samba able to notify any changes made to the 
 shared directory or files to the clients instantly or not?
 If I change/edit the file in a shared path and some clients are viewing 
 that file will the changes get reflected to them instantly without doing a 
 to refresh by the clients. 
 I came across sumthing called  CHANGE NOTIFY in samba configuration 
 parameters but i m not sure how to make use of it as it is set to YES by 
 default.
 
 Any help in this area as to how we can enable change notification in SAMBA 
 will be extremely useful.

In recent Samba versions it should work fine. If it does not
work with 3.0.28a or later, please tell us.

But please be aware that recent Windows client seem to have
a caching policy that goes beyond notify, so that although
Samba sends notifications Windows would not update the
explorer Window. Someone on this list could reproduce it
against a Windows server as well.

Volker


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Re: [Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Prateek . Mathur
Hi,
How can i see this working. I tried sharing a text file in 
samba..Opened it from windows machine and then changed it on my samba 
linux machine..i was not able to se any change refleted to my opened txt 
file window.. If i close it , refresh and then open i can c the changes.
let me know how can i make it work? 
Thanks for your response.

Regards,
Prateek Mathur
Software Engineer
Product Engg. Services (PES) Group,
 



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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:06:02PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I wanted to know is Samba able to notify any changes made to the 

 shared directory or files to the clients instantly or not?
 If I change/edit the file in a shared path and some clients are viewing 
 that file will the changes get reflected to them instantly without doing 
a 
 to refresh by the clients. 
 I came across sumthing called  CHANGE NOTIFY in samba configuration 
 parameters but i m not sure how to make use of it as it is set to YES by 

 default.
 
 Any help in this area as to how we can enable change notification in 
SAMBA 
 will be extremely useful.

In recent Samba versions it should work fine. If it does not
work with 3.0.28a or later, please tell us.

But please be aware that recent Windows client seem to have
a caching policy that goes beyond notify, so that although
Samba sends notifications Windows would not update the
explorer Window. Someone on this list could reproduce it
against a Windows server as well.

Volker
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Re: [Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:02:03 +0530
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How can i see this working. I tried sharing a text file in 
 samba..Opened it from windows machine and then changed it on my samba 
 linux machine..i was not able to se any change refleted to my opened
 txt file window.. If i close it , refresh and then open i can c the
 changes. let me know how can i make it work? 
 Thanks for your response.

Hi,

As far as I'm aware, this won't work in windows either, nor will it
work using Linux files between linux systems [0].

Am I correct in thinking that you want to have a single file updated
in real-time from a number of locations?

M.

[0] unless you've got a really clever bit of software that
automatically reloads the file every time a change is detected!
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Re: [Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:02:03PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can i see this working. I tried sharing a text file in 
 samba..Opened it from windows machine and then changed it on my samba 
 linux machine..i was not able to se any change refleted to my opened txt 
 file window.. If i close it , refresh and then open i can c the changes.
 let me know how can i make it work? 
 Thanks for your response.

Oh, that will not work. The change notify stuff I talked
about only works for directories, not for file contents. For
file content's it is a matter of the applications
themselves, but I'm not aware of a mechanism that would
allow this to work cross-platform.

Volker


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Re: [Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Prateek . Mathur
Hi,
I was not able to see any directory changes also without 
refreshing it.
I tried adding files and renaming the existing one but was not able to see 
the changes on the windows explorer.
We need to set sumthing in the samba.conf for this to happen?

Regards,
Prateek Mathur
Software Engineer




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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:02:03PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 How can i see this working. I tried sharing a text file in 
 samba..Opened it from windows machine and then changed it on my samba 
 linux machine..i was not able to se any change refleted to my opened txt 

 file window.. If i close it , refresh and then open i can c the changes.
 let me know how can i make it work? 
 Thanks for your response.

Oh, that will not work. The change notify stuff I talked
about only works for directories, not for file contents. For
file content's it is a matter of the applications
themselves, but I'm not aware of a mechanism that would
allow this to work cross-platform.

Volker
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Fw: [Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Prateek . Mathur
Samba version i m using is 3.0.30 over Red hat linux 9


Regards,
Prateek Mathur




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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:54:32PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I was not able to see any directory changes also without 
 refreshing it.
 I tried adding files and renaming the existing one but was not able to 
see 
 the changes on the windows explorer.
 We need to set sumthing in the samba.conf for this to happen?

What Samba version are you using? What Unix?

Volker
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Re: Fw: [Samba] File Change notification in Samba

2008-06-30 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 04:10:07PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Samba version i m using is 3.0.30 over Red hat linux 9

Wow, RH9 is ancient history, this definitely has no inotify.

If you created the file in unix, there's no way in that
Linux version this can be transferred to user space with
3.0.30. If you created the file with another windows client,
it should work.

If that is the case, please file a bug at
https://bugzilla.samba.org and upload your smb.conf and a
debug level 10 log of both smbds, the one that created the
file, and the one that should see the notify.

Volker


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[Samba] File change notification.

2005-08-24 Thread Ben Timby

Regarding the following thread.

http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2005-March/040075.html

Does anyone know where to obtain the patch, it appears to be truncated 
in the mail archive. I am having the same problem, Windows 2003 + IIS6 
is not updating cached ASP and ASP.NET pages. I see that Samba replies 
to all file change notification requests with 0x010C 
(STATUS_NOTIFY_ENUM_DIR), however IIS does not seem to respect this 
response.


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