Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC... what about de shared folders??

2011-03-13 Thread Bayardo Rivas - Open Soluciones

El 13/03/2011 06:14 a.m., Daniel Müller escribió:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:05:59 -0600, Bayardo Rivas - Open Soluciones
Hi,
with a bdc you will only have a authentication nothing else.
You have to have the same shares  on both pdc and bdc and have them sync
in realtime (drbd master/master or something cluster)
to keep the data for the users up.
My experencies in production PDC/LDAP BDC/LDAP are that if you do not have
a replicating wins on both. It could be when the pdc (or bdc) failes
a couple of users can login the other (who where logged on to the pc) need
to rejoin the machnie to the domain). Samba4wins will do that job.

Good Luck
Daniel


Thank you Daniel,

I have a little experience with Samba + LDAP so, any reading that you 
suggest would be great. I will post questions on the way while I work on 
configuration.


Sorry for my english.

Bayardo.
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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC... what about de shared folders??

2011-03-13 Thread Daniel Müller
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:05:59 -0600, Bayardo Rivas - Open Soluciones
Hi,
with a bdc you will only have a authentication nothing else.
You have to have the same shares  on both pdc and bdc and have them sync
in realtime (drbd master/master or something cluster)
to keep the data for the users up.
My experencies in production PDC/LDAP BDC/LDAP are that if you do not have
a replicating wins on both. It could be when the pdc (or bdc) failes
a couple of users can login the other (who where logged on to the pc) need
to rejoin the machnie to the domain). Samba4wins will do that job.

Good Luck
Daniel


 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i am new in the mailing list. I am trying to figure out my 
> configuration. I have a Samba server authenticating with /etc/passwd. We

> are planing to move to LDAP and install a BDC server. The information I 
> found googleing is always related to BDC as a backup for authentication 
> but, I am not clear about the files stored in shared folders.
> 
> I am reading (everybody recomend it) this book and the number 5 specific

> chapter 
>
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-bdc.html
> 
> As said, I am not sure how to give access to the shared folders (stored 
> in PDC) when it fails, because I suppose that users will authenticate 
> with the BDC server, and What about the shared folders?? Do I have to 
> sync this folders and add in the configuration of BDC the shared
folders??
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Bayardo.
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[Samba] PDC and BDC... what about de shared folders??

2011-03-12 Thread Bayardo Rivas - Open Soluciones

Hi,

i am new in the mailing list. I am trying to figure out my 
configuration. I have a Samba server authenticating with /etc/passwd. We 
are planing to move to LDAP and install a BDC server. The information I 
found googleing is always related to BDC as a backup for authentication 
but, I am not clear about the files stored in shared folders.


I am reading (everybody recomend it) this book and the number 5 specific 
chapter 
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-bdc.html


As said, I am not sure how to give access to the shared folders (stored 
in PDC) when it fails, because I suppose that users will authenticate 
with the BDC server, and What about the shared folders?? Do I have to 
sync this folders and add in the configuration of BDC the shared folders??


Thanks for your help.

Bayardo.
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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC... what about de shared folders??

2011-03-11 Thread Mike Brady

Quoting Bayardo Rivas - Open Soluciones :


Hi,

i am new in the mailing list. I am trying to figure out my  
configuration. I have a Samba server authenticating with  
/etc/passwd. We are planing to move to LDAP and install a BDC  
server. The information I
found googleing is always related to BDC as a backup for  
authentication but, I am not clear about the files stored in shared  
folders.


I am reading (everybody recomend it) this book and the number 5  
specific chapter  
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-bdc.html


As said, I am not sure how to give access to the shared folders  
(stored in PDC) when it fails, because I suppose that users will  
authenticate with the BDC server, and What about the shared  
folders?? Do I have to

sync this folders and add in the configuration of BDC the shared folders??

Thanks for your help.

Bayardo.

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Yes you will have to sync the folders and add them to the BDC  
configuration when they are needed.  I also suggest having a look at  
using a netbios alias and/or DFS to make the failover easer on your  
users.




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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC... what about de shared folders??

2011-03-11 Thread John Drescher
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Bayardo Rivas - Open Soluciones
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i am new in the mailing list. I am trying to figure out my configuration. I
> have a Samba server authenticating with /etc/passwd. We are planing to move
> to LDAP and install a BDC server. The information I
> found googleing is always related to BDC as a backup for authentication but,
> I am not clear about the files stored in shared folders.
>
> I am reading (everybody recomend it) this book and the number 5 specific
> chapter
> http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-bdc.html
>
> As said, I am not sure how to give access to the shared folders (stored in
> PDC) when it fails, because I suppose that users will authenticate with the
> BDC server, and What about the shared folders?? Do I have to
> sync this folders and add in the configuration of BDC the shared folders??
>

On my work network. I put no shares on the PDC or BDC but on other
member servers. My PDC and BDC actually are very small and I have
migrated them both to virtual machines as guests.

John
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[Samba] PDC and BDC... what about de shared folders??

2011-03-11 Thread Bayardo Rivas - Open Soluciones

Hi,

i am new in the mailing list. I am trying to figure out my configuration. I 
have a Samba server authenticating with /etc/passwd. We are planing to move to 
LDAP and install a BDC server. The information I
found googleing is always related to BDC as a backup for authentication but, I 
am not clear about the files stored in shared folders.

I am reading (everybody recomend it) this book and the number 5 specific 
chapter 
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-bdc.html

As said, I am not sure how to give access to the shared folders (stored in PDC) 
when it fails, because I suppose that users will authenticate with the BDC 
server, and What about the shared folders?? Do I have to
sync this folders and add in the configuration of BDC the shared folders??

Thanks for your help.

Bayardo.

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[Samba] PDC and BDC across WAN

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Alborn
We have several locations seperated by WAN links.

There is one PDC in the central office, and a BDC at each other site.

The PDC has a WINS server, all other servers and stations are configured
to query this server (hybrid mode - WINS first, then broadcast.)

Here is my problem: When one of the BDCs is disconnected from the
network, all of the sites suffer problems (ie., Windows logins slow down
from 10-15 seconds to 5-10 minutes, system policies fail to apply,
accessing mapped drives slows down.) The entire domain basically becomes
unusable.

When the connection is reestablished, everything returns to normal
rather quickly.

I've spent some time Googling my problem, but so far have been
unsuccessful.

Should I be using interdomain trust relationships instead of my current
single WAN-spanning domain? Or is there something else I've overlooked?


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[Samba] PDC and BDC problem

2007-04-02 Thread mail
Hello,

   The following is my PDC and BDC some setting: 

PDC: 

local master = yes 
os level = 65 
domain master = yes 
preferred master = yes 
domain logon = yes 

BDC: 

local master = no 
os level = 33 
domain master = no 
preferred master = no 
domain logon = yes 

 I has windows xp sp1(created in vmware + fc5(created in vmware)+Samba x2+
LDAP x2(Replication) for testing.

http://www.wilson-kwok.com/ldap.GIF

 I turned off BDC and PDC work find when user login, but I turned off PDC
and user cannot login to BDC, can someone tell me what is the problem ?

Thanks


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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC: how to sync profiles

2005-10-22 Thread Andreas Hasenack
Em Sex 21 Out 2005 00:57, Philip Washington escreveu:
> Andreas
> I currently have a NT4 Domain that I am trying to migrate to Samba.  I'm 
> really interested in your setup.  I currently am concerned because the 
> documentation (Samba3-Example) I have seen so far sets up a BDC that 
> points to the ldap on the PDC.  As far as I can tell that means if my 

Actually, you should point the BDC to a slave ldap, preferably on the same 
machine. That's what I'm doing anyway.
The only thing I depend on being on the PDC alone is the wins server, since 
samba can't replicate it yet. I just choose to place the wins server at the 
PDC, but it could be any other machine. But only one (no backups).

> PDC goes down my network is down.  If you could provide me with any 
> information on where to find the HOWTO or copies of your configuration 
> it would be greatly appreciated.

I followed this:
http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-bdc.html

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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC: how to sync profiles

2005-10-20 Thread Philip Washington

Andreas wrote:


On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 03:41:44PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
 


Having a bdc in another net i.e over vpn to another office
so you give the profile and home path to that bdc in the ldap entries of 
the users of this "remote" office.
   



Ok, that scenario is clear.

 

The other part ist to have the bdc as a fallback to the pdc, there for 
you have to make sure that
   



That is my scenario: BDCs around as a fallback and to alleviate the load
on the PDC for auth purposes.

 


files , homes , profiles got in sync with the pdc ones.
There are so many ways to  do this that i can describe...this is related 
   



The problem is that these methods are ony way: rsync from PDC to BDC or
vice-versa. Which means that, when using %L in the profile
specification, the user would either be using the PDC one or the BDC
one. rsync doesn't really work well here, since it's one-way. And NFS
gives me nightmares :) That's why I asked the list about what most
people would do in this scenario.

 


how you wanna do this
i.e rsync nfs copy  etc. and which fits best to your needs.
It is a good idea speacialy in bigger networks hosting profiles and 
homes not on the pdc/bdc
and let them do only auth jobs. for hosting profiles and homes you might 
use a nas server

which has raid etc
   



I'm inclined to do that, not only to make sure xDCs only serve auth, but
because of the profile sync problem. If I place the profiles elsewhere
(in another server), the only problem I could have if that server went
down is the (temporary) loss of the profile. Users should be instructed
to not store important things there anyway (the profile has to be
small).

 


Andreas
I currently have a NT4 Domain that I am trying to migrate to Samba.  I'm 
really interested in your setup.  I currently am concerned because the 
documentation (Samba3-Example) I have seen so far sets up a BDC that 
points to the ldap on the PDC.  As far as I can tell that means if my 
PDC goes down my network is down.  If you could provide me with any 
information on where to find the HOWTO or copies of your configuration 
it would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC: how to sync profiles

2005-10-20 Thread Andreas
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 06:18:06AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> with passdb of tdb or ldap, you can specify a valid share on any member
> server or DC for each specific user rather than just using one share on
> one server for all users. Bear in mind that on Samba profile shares, it
> is typical to use a few directives such as 'csc policy = disable' and
> 'profile acls = yes' 

I will check what those mean, thanks. And yes, I'm using ldap
master/slave in this scenario (pdc with ldap master, bdcs with ldap
slave). Replication got so much easier with openldap-2.3.x :)

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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC: how to sync profiles

2005-10-20 Thread Andreas
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 03:41:44PM +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
> Having a bdc in another net i.e over vpn to another office
> so you give the profile and home path to that bdc in the ldap entries of 
> the users of this "remote" office.

Ok, that scenario is clear.

> The other part ist to have the bdc as a fallback to the pdc, there for 
> you have to make sure that

That is my scenario: BDCs around as a fallback and to alleviate the load
on the PDC for auth purposes.

> files , homes , profiles got in sync with the pdc ones.
> There are so many ways to  do this that i can describe...this is related 

The problem is that these methods are ony way: rsync from PDC to BDC or
vice-versa. Which means that, when using %L in the profile
specification, the user would either be using the PDC one or the BDC
one. rsync doesn't really work well here, since it's one-way. And NFS
gives me nightmares :) That's why I asked the list about what most
people would do in this scenario.

> how you wanna do this
> i.e rsync nfs copy  etc. and which fits best to your needs.
> It is a good idea speacialy in bigger networks hosting profiles and 
> homes not on the pdc/bdc
> and let them do only auth jobs. for hosting profiles and homes you might 
> use a nas server
> which has raid etc

I'm inclined to do that, not only to make sure xDCs only serve auth, but
because of the profile sync problem. If I place the profiles elsewhere
(in another server), the only problem I could have if that server went
down is the (temporary) loss of the profile. Users should be instructed
to not store important things there anyway (the profile has to be
small).

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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC: how to sync profiles

2005-10-20 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 09:56 -0200, Andreas wrote:
> I was wondering how people sync the roaming profiles in an environment
> with a PDC and multiple BDCs. Are profiles better stored in another
> server (a member server) instead of the xDC?
> 
> I could use rsync from the PDC to the BDC, but that doesn't work the
> other way around, i.e., when a user logs in via a BDC whatever changes
> they make won't go back to the PDC. Unless the profile is:
> - always stored in the PDC
> - stored elsewhere (i.e., not a xDC)
> 
> Seems it's better to store the profiles in a single server and live with
> it when that server goes down for some reason or another. Or not? What
> do people usually do?

with passdb of tdb or ldap, you can specify a valid share on any member
server or DC for each specific user rather than just using one share on
one server for all users. Bear in mind that on Samba profile shares, it
is typical to use a few directives such as 'csc policy = disable' and
'profile acls = yes' 

I think it is much easier to control/script/maintain ldapsam than tdbsam
passdb's but that's my opinion.

Craig


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[Samba] PDC and BDC: how to sync profiles

2005-10-20 Thread Andreas
I was wondering how people sync the roaming profiles in an environment
with a PDC and multiple BDCs. Are profiles better stored in another
server (a member server) instead of the xDC?

I could use rsync from the PDC to the BDC, but that doesn't work the
other way around, i.e., when a user logs in via a BDC whatever changes
they make won't go back to the PDC. Unless the profile is:
- always stored in the PDC
- stored elsewhere (i.e., not a xDC)

Seems it's better to store the profiles in a single server and live with
it when that server goes down for some reason or another. Or not? What
do people usually do?

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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC - do they need the same SIDs or different?

2004-11-25 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Gustavo Lima wrote:
Exactly the same SID they need.
PDC is running Samba 3.0.9, BDC is running Samba 3.0.5.
OK, so I get the same SID on both machines:
On FIRST:
# net getlocalsid
SID for domain FIRST is: S-1-5-21-1517566737-222097662-23938227
On SECOND:
# net getlocalsid
SID for domain FIRST is: S-1-5-21-1517566737-222097662-23938227
and for domain it's also the same (is it OK that it's the same?):
# net getlocalsid DOMAIN
SID for domain FIRST is: S-1-5-21-1517566737-222097662-23938227
But when I query from a PDC (FIRST) for FIRST I get:
# smbclient -L FIRST -U%
Domain=[DOMAIN] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.9]
Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
Shared  Disk  Shared folder
print$  Disk  Drivers
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.9)
ADMIN$  IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.9)
HPPSC1110   Printer   HP PSC 1110
Domain=[MAGISTA] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.9]
Server   Comment
----
FIRSTSamba 3.0.9
WorkgroupMaster
----
DOMAIN
But when I query for a BDC (SECOND) it gives me the same reply as for 
PDC (FIRST)!

# smbclient -L SECOND -U%
Domain=[DOMAIN] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.9]
Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
Shared  Disk  Shared folder
print$  Disk  Drivers
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.9)
ADMIN$  IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.9)
HPPSC1110   Printer   HP PSC 1110
Domain=[MAGISTA] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.9]
Server   Comment
----
FIRSTSamba 3.0.9
WorkgroupMaster
----
DOMAIN
When I query from BDC, it gives me correct values.
Any hint what is wrong?
Tomek
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[Samba] PDC and BDC - do they need the same SIDs or different?

2004-11-25 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Hello,
If I have a PDC with a netbios name FIRST, and I want to add a BDC - 
named SECOND - do these machines need to have the same SIDs, or 
different (I just copied files / settings from PDC to BDC and I'm not 
sure what to do next)?

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Re: [Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-09 Thread Beast
* Andrew Bartlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> nulis:

> 
> Not only will they just keep changing it, I have found that they keep
> changing it to the same value.  I'll commit a patch shortly that makes
> avoid touching ldap if they 'change but don't change' their passwords...
> 


Great!!
sol.

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Re: [Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-09 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 01:02, Jérôme Tournier wrote:
> Le Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:34:38PM +0700, Beast a ecrit:
> > Problem if master ldap is over wan and link is down. nobody will be able to change 
> > any attributes on that site. I know its not samba fault, but any advise on that 
> > setup?
> 
> and if the link is down, as computers peridically changed their trust
> account password, what will happen if they can't do that ? They'll keep
> their current password, but can they keep it a long time without problem
> in user authentication or anything else ? 

Not only will they just keep changing it, I have found that they keep
changing it to the same value.  I'll commit a patch shortly that makes
avoid touching ldap if they 'change but don't change' their passwords...

Andrew Bartlett

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Re: [Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-09 Thread Jérôme Tournier
Le Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:34:38PM +0700, Beast a ecrit:
> Problem if master ldap is over wan and link is down. nobody will be able to change 
> any attributes on that site. I know its not samba fault, but any advise on that 
> setup?

and if the link is down, as computers peridically changed their trust
account password, what will happen if they can't do that ? They'll keep
their current password, but can they keep it a long time without problem
in user authentication or anything else ? 
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Re: [Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-09 Thread Beast
* Andrew Bartlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> nulis:

> 
> Not quite.  Even if the master is not mentioned in the smb.conf, Samba
> will follow the 'referral', from the current LDAP server to find where
> it should make the write.

Problem if master ldap is over wan and link is down. nobody will be able to change any 
attributes on that site. I know its not samba fault, but any advise on that setup?


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Re: [Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-09 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 20:08, Jérôme Tournier wrote:
> Le Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 08:35:52AM +1100, Andrew Bartlett a ecrit:
> > >   => passdb backend = ldapsam:"ldap://slave.quenya.org ldap://master.quenya.org";
> > >   will samba store informations in the master ldap server or will it fail ?
> > 
> > This will work fine.  Samba will talk to the master for updates.  Set
> > 'ldap replication sleep' to the amount of time you expect the slave to
> > take to catch up to reality.  (Oh, and I know that's dody, but better
> > ideas haven't yet been implemented).
> 
> OK. But with the order specified in the example above (slave and then
> master), will samba contact first the slave and then the master if needed
> ?
> I mean, let suppose i have the 'passdb backend' defined above. If samba
> need to modify something, is the operation procedure like this :
> 1) samba contact the first ldaps server mentionned in 'passdb backend',
>ie the slave server
> 2) samba try to update the directory : that fail
> 3) samba try to contact the second ldap server mentionned in 'passdb
>backend', ie the master

Not quite.  Even if the master is not mentioned in the smb.conf, Samba
will follow the 'referral', from the current LDAP server to find where
it should make the write.

> 4) samba try to update the master directory : succes
> 5) all next operations will be done first with the slave ldap server
> 
> Is that the good senario ?
> Thanks

This is basically how it works.

Except for writes, it will also contact the master (the second server in
the config line) if the slave just isn't there.

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Re: [Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-09 Thread Jérôme Tournier
Le Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 08:35:52AM +1100, Andrew Bartlett a ecrit:
> >   => passdb backend = ldapsam:"ldap://slave.quenya.org ldap://master.quenya.org";
> >   will samba store informations in the master ldap server or will it fail ?
> 
> This will work fine.  Samba will talk to the master for updates.  Set
> 'ldap replication sleep' to the amount of time you expect the slave to
> take to catch up to reality.  (Oh, and I know that's dody, but better
> ideas haven't yet been implemented).

OK. But with the order specified in the example above (slave and then
master), will samba contact first the slave and then the master if needed
?
I mean, let suppose i have the 'passdb backend' defined above. If samba
need to modify something, is the operation procedure like this :
1) samba contact the first ldaps server mentionned in 'passdb backend',
   ie the slave server
2) samba try to update the directory : that fail
3) samba try to contact the second ldap server mentionned in 'passdb
   backend', ie the master
4) samba try to update the master directory : succes
5) all next operations will be done first with the slave ldap server

Is that the good senario ?
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Re: [Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-08 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 07:35, Jérôme Tournier wrote:
> Hi all !
> In the samba-Howto, i was looking on informations on how to set up
> both a samba PDC and a samba BDC controller with ldap backend.
> I can read:
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Do not install a Samba PDC on a OpenLDAP slave server...
> Possible PDC/BDC plus LDAP configurations include:
> . PDC -> LDAP master server, BDC -> LDAP slave server.

I have removed this comment.  With the addition of the 'ldap replication
sleep' parameter, this can be made to work quite well.

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> 
> And now i am wondering this questions :
> . if the samba DBC contain the following configuration
>   => passdb backend = ldapsam:"ldap://slave.quenya.org ldap://master.quenya.org";
>   will samba store informations in the master ldap server or will it fail ?

This will work fine.  Samba will talk to the master for updates.  Set
'ldap replication sleep' to the amount of time you expect the slave to
take to catch up to reality.  (Oh, and I know that's dody, but better
ideas haven't yet been implemented).

>   Or is it necessary to put the master ldap server first like this :
>   => passdb backend = ldapsam:"ldap://master.quenya.org ldap://slave.quenya.org";
> . can i install a samba BDC with a ldap slave server ? Yes you will answer me
>   but in the case where the master ldap server is unreachable, where does
>   the samba BDC will store new informations (Machine Trust Account password
>   for example wich are periodically changed)

In the configuration, if the master cannot be reached, the slave will be
contacted as a read-only backup.  Updates will fail.

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[Samba] samba PDC and BDC with ldap master and slave backend

2004-02-08 Thread Jérôme Tournier
Hi all !
In the samba-Howto, i was looking on informations on how to set up
both a samba PDC and a samba BDC controller with ldap backend.
I can read:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Do not install a Samba PDC on a OpenLDAP slave server...
Possible PDC/BDC plus LDAP configurations include:
. PDC -> LDAP master server, BDC -> LDAP slave server.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

And now i am wondering this questions :
. if the samba DBC contain the following configuration
  => passdb backend = ldapsam:"ldap://slave.quenya.org ldap://master.quenya.org";
  will samba store informations in the master ldap server or will it fail ?
  Or is it necessary to put the master ldap server first like this :
  => passdb backend = ldapsam:"ldap://master.quenya.org ldap://slave.quenya.org";
. can i install a samba BDC with a ldap slave server ? Yes you will answer me
  but in the case where the master ldap server is unreachable, where does
  the samba BDC will store new informations (Machine Trust Account password
  for example wich are periodically changed)

Thanks for any precision :)
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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC

2003-01-22 Thread Bradley W. Langhorst
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 14:33, Sascha Bieler wrote:
> Hi @ all,
> 
> can someone tell me please if I have to synchronise the samba-password-file 
> when I have a PDC and a BDC running?
> 
yes you do.
or you could use ldap and replication...

> Situation:
> 
> All machines have trustee accounts on the pdc and like to log on the bdc. Does 
> the bdc know about the users from pdc when I set up the 'password 
> server'-parameter?
it can use the pdc to authenticate users but then what's the point of a
bdc?

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[Samba] PDC and BDC

2003-01-22 Thread Sascha Bieler
Hi @ all,

can someone tell me please if I have to synchronise the samba-password-file 
when I have a PDC and a BDC running?

Situation:

All machines have trustee accounts on the pdc and like to log on the bdc. Does 
the bdc know about the users from pdc when I set up the 'password 
server'-parameter?

Thanks for help

Sascha

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Re: [Samba] PDC and BDC

2002-10-30 Thread Diego Rivera
You can achieve this using LDAP as a samba and unix password backend.

I've done this and it works quite nicely

Best

Diego

On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 11:46, Gurnish Anand wrote:
> Hello,
>   How can I make two linux servers sync passwords. Is it something I do 
> with Samba?? I want both the unix accounts and samba accounts be sync'ed.
> 
> Please help!!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gurnish
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[Samba] PDC and BDC

2002-10-30 Thread Gurnish Anand
Hello,
 How can I make two linux servers sync passwords. Is it something I do 
with Samba?? I want both the unix accounts and samba accounts be sync'ed.

Please help!!

Thanks,

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Re: [Samba] Samba PDC and BDC

2002-10-29 Thread Gurnish Anand

Hi,
 I want to set up Samba servers on our two Linux (Redhat 7.1) machines 
and get the passwords sync on both of them. How can I go about it.
Also, how can i make password restrictions work between Samba and Win98 
workstations. Please direct me to a HOW-to or any documentations if any.

Thanks,

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RE: SOLVED! [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Gerald Carter

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Yannick Tousignant wrote:

> 
> No it didn't work simply by copying the secrets.tdb file
> because this file contain also the name of the current
> server (that shouldn't be the same on the bdc).
> 
> And yes, both servers are running on the same subnet
> and the bdc takes over immediatly if i unplug the network
> cable of the pdc...

OK.  We need a way to set the rid for a BDC
by querying the PDC.  Will work on this.  Probably a post 2.2.5
issue though.









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RE: SOLVED! [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Yannick Tousignant


No it didn't work simply by copying the secrets.tdb file
because this file contain also the name of the current
server (that shouldn't be the same on the bdc).

And yes, both servers are running on the same subnet
and the bdc takes over immediatly if i unplug the network
cable of the pdc...


Yannick



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Gerald Carter
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:05 PM
> To: Yannick Tousignant
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: SOLVED! [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> 
> 
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Yannick Tousignant wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It's me again, with the solution to my problems.
> > 
> > To get a working BDC, you have to kill samba, delete your
> > secrets.tdb, create a MACHINE.SID and then restart samba. You
> > will have to do this on the PDC and the BDC to have the same
> > SID the the secrets.tdb file. Then machine account are valid
> > even if you move your PDC, or you add a 2nd BDC, as long as you
> > create the MACHINE.SID file before the first startup of samba.
> > Don't forget, the MACHINE.SID file have to be the same on all
> > domain controlers or machine account will be invalid.
> > 
> > And ho, backup your MACHINE.SID file, samba deletes it when
> > it convert the file to secrets.tdb!
> 
> So this did not work by simply copying secrets.tdb from 
> the PDC to the BDC?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> cheers, jerry
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RE: SOLVED! [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Gerald Carter

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Yannick Tousignant wrote:

> 
> It's me again, with the solution to my problems.
> 
> To get a working BDC, you have to kill samba, delete your
> secrets.tdb, create a MACHINE.SID and then restart samba. You
> will have to do this on the PDC and the BDC to have the same
> SID the the secrets.tdb file. Then machine account are valid
> even if you move your PDC, or you add a 2nd BDC, as long as you
> create the MACHINE.SID file before the first startup of samba.
> Don't forget, the MACHINE.SID file have to be the same on all
> domain controlers or machine account will be invalid.
> 
> And ho, backup your MACHINE.SID file, samba deletes it when
> it convert the file to secrets.tdb!

So this did not work by simply copying secrets.tdb from 
the PDC to the BDC?







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RE: SOLVED! [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Yannick Tousignant


It's me again, with the solution to my problems.

To get a working BDC, you have to kill samba, delete your
secrets.tdb, create a MACHINE.SID and then restart samba. You
will have to do this on the PDC and the BDC to have the same
SID the the secrets.tdb file. Then machine account are valid
even if you move your PDC, or you add a 2nd BDC, as long as you
create the MACHINE.SID file before the first startup of samba.
Don't forget, the MACHINE.SID file have to be the same on all
domain controlers or machine account will be invalid.

And ho, backup your MACHINE.SID file, samba deletes it when
it convert the file to secrets.tdb!

Thanks to you all!!!



Yannick Tousignant
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Yannick Tousignant
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:10 PM
> To: Gerald Carter
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
>
>
>
> Ok, i'm stuck at this point. Either if i want to move
> the current PDC to another server or if i want to make
> a BDC, i have to rejoin all the stations to the domain.
>
> The machine account are stored in the LDAP database that
> I replicate to the BDC. The problem is that samba store
> some kind of part of the machine account somewhere (maybe
> in secrets.tdb) that i can't replicate on both servers. So
> if the users log into another PDC, the machine accounts
> are not valid for the server, so it deny all logon!
>
> If anyone can help me find a way to have valid machine
> account on 2 different DC...
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Yannick
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Gerald Carter
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:04 AM
> > To: Yannick Tousignant
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Yannick Tousignant wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, I tried to move the current PDC to another machine
> > > that have the same LDAP database. It didn't work... There
> > > is something about the machine account! How does samba
> > > handle this? i could not logon to the moved PDC, so i
> > > rejoined the domain (added my machine in TEMP workgroup,
> > > reboot, rejoin de domain, reboot), and then it worked!
> > >
> > > Is there any way i can bypass this?
> >
> > Can the uid's for passwd entries sync'd on bother servers?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > cheers, jerry
> >  -
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[Samba] was Samba PDC and BDC

2002-06-05 Thread Simo Sorce


Of course you need to have the same SID as it is the sid of the domain.
I think that just copying over MACHINE.SID and making the second server
regenerate the secrets.tdb from it (or simply compying also the secrtes
tdb) will make the two machines show the same SID and thus being
controllers of the same domain.

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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Yannick Tousignant


Ok, i'm stuck at this point. Either if i want to move
the current PDC to another server or if i want to make
a BDC, i have to rejoin all the stations to the domain.

The machine account are stored in the LDAP database that 
I replicate to the BDC. The problem is that samba store
some kind of part of the machine account somewhere (maybe
in secrets.tdb) that i can't replicate on both servers. So
if the users log into another PDC, the machine accounts
are not valid for the server, so it deny all logon!

If anyone can help me find a way to have valid machine
account on 2 different DC...


Thanks!


Yannick



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Gerald Carter
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:04 AM
> To: Yannick Tousignant
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Yannick Tousignant wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi, I tried to move the current PDC to another machine
> > that have the same LDAP database. It didn't work... There
> > is something about the machine account! How does samba
> > handle this? i could not logon to the moved PDC, so i
> > rejoined the domain (added my machine in TEMP workgroup,
> > reboot, rejoin de domain, reboot), and then it worked!
> > 
> > Is there any way i can bypass this?
> 
> Can the uid's for passwd entries sync'd on bother servers?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> cheers, jerry
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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Yannick Tousignant


Hi,

Thanks for replying me Gerald.

> > 
> > 
> > Hi, I tried to move the current PDC to another machine
> > that have the same LDAP database. It didn't work... There
> > is something about the machine account! How does samba
> > handle this? i could not logon to the moved PDC, so i
> > rejoined the domain (added my machine in TEMP workgroup,
> > reboot, rejoin de domain, reboot), and then it worked!
> > 
> > Is there any way i can bypass this?
> 
> Can the uid's for passwd entries sync'd on bother servers?

That's not the problem, because they are sync'd on both servers
using slurpd. How does samba handle the validity of a machine
password? If i can solve this, then i can have a BDC...

I'm thinking maybe put add a MACHINE.SID file to both servers,
with the same SID. Maybe that can solve my problem.

I'll keep you informed.


Yannick



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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Gerald Carter

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Yannick Tousignant wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi, I tried to move the current PDC to another machine
> that have the same LDAP database. It didn't work... There
> is something about the machine account! How does samba
> handle this? i could not logon to the moved PDC, so i
> rejoined the domain (added my machine in TEMP workgroup,
> reboot, rejoin de domain, reboot), and then it worked!
> 
> Is there any way i can bypass this?

Can the uid's for passwd entries sync'd on bother servers?















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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Gerald Carter

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Klaus Zahradnik wrote:

> Nope, I just checked in a Book. It can't act as a Backup Domain
> Controler. :o(

We are talking about two different things here. 
Samba cannot act as a BDC for a Windows PDC, but 
my tests showed that we can act as a BDC for another 
Samba box.






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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-05 Thread Gerald Carter

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Yannick Tousignant wrote:

> In this link :
> 
> http://www.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/Samba-BDC-HOWTO.html
> 
> It seems possible to act like BDC as long as the PDC is a samba machine.
> I did everyting there, and both servers have the same secrets.tdb file.

My testing using an smbpasswd (several months ago worked ok.
I never ran the setup in production though.  I'll run some tests
later this week and see what's going on.

For the record, you setup should work as far as I can tell.






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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-04 Thread Yannick Tousignant



Hi, I tried to move the current PDC to another machine
that have the same LDAP database. It didn't work... There
is something about the machine account! How does samba
handle this? i could not logon to the moved PDC, so i
rejoined the domain (added my machine in TEMP workgroup,
reboot, rejoin de domain, reboot), and then it worked!

Is there any way i can bypass this?


Yannick




> -Original Message-
> From: Tarjei Huse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:24 PM
> To: Yannick Tousignant
> Subject: RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
>
>
> Try samba-tng.
> TH
> Quoting Yannick Tousignant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > That's exactly what i did, I replicated the ldap database
> > beetween the 2 servers, so it's like im replicating
> > linux users, and samba users. I copied the secrets.tdb
> > from de pdc to de bdc (seems to be the new MACHINE.SID).
> > But when i put "domain logons = yes" they all seems to
> > authentificate oon the BDC, users that have allready logon
> > once before the bdc was up still work, but logon script aren't
> > executed, and users that never logged in don't work at all
> > (user/passwd don't work at logon). It's pretty weird to me,
> > maybe samba 2.2.4 is not suitable to have 2 servers that
> > users can authetificate.
> >
> > Hope i can find a solution...
> >
> >
> > Yannick
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > Behalf Of Tarjei Huse
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:02 AM
> > > To: Klaus Zahradnik
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you see the other BDC howto? Combine this with a replicated
> > > openldap server
> > > and I think you're done, although I've never had the need :)
> > >
> > > Tarjei
> > >
> > > >
> > > > PLEASE!?! :o)
> > > >
> > > > Klaus
> > > >
> > > > On 4 Jun 2002 at 7:55, Cates, Brett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Can samba act as a BDC?  I thought I read somewhere that it
> > > can only be a
> > > > > PDC or a member server.  I could be wrong though...
> > > > >
> > > > > Brett
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Yannick Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:47 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to build a PDC and BDC to elimenate Windows NT on a
> > > > > network and have load balancing and fault tolerence for users.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've compiled samba 2.2.4 on two servers, working with openldap
> > 2.0.23
> > > > > with a master and a slave. Replication on LDAP servers works fine.
> > > > > I've set up a domain controller and wanted to set the other server
> > > > > as BDC in case the PDC goes down. Each time i put the
> > > > > "domain logons = yes" option, some people can't log in, computers
> > > > > seems to seek for a domain controler. Also, logon script aren't
> > > > > executed upon login... When i disconnect network cable on the
> > > > > PDC, users can log into the BDC fine but login script arenèt
> > executed.
> > > > > When i plug back the pdc, some users can't no longer login (bad
> > user).
> > > > > When i disconnect the BDC, everything work fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > For now i disabled the "domain logons = yes" on the BDC,
> so there is
> > > > > no load balancing and fault tolerence for users. =(
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is my smb.conf on both servers :
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PDC :
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > [global]
> > > > >
> > > > > netbios name = PDC
> > > > > workgroup = OKA
&g

RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-04 Thread Yannick Tousignant


That's exactly what i did, I replicated the ldap database
beetween the 2 servers, so it's like im replicating
linux users, and samba users. I copied the secrets.tdb
from de pdc to de bdc (seems to be the new MACHINE.SID).
But when i put "domain logons = yes" they all seems to
authentificate oon the BDC, users that have allready logon
once before the bdc was up still work, but logon script aren't
executed, and users that never logged in don't work at all
(user/passwd don't work at logon). It's pretty weird to me,
maybe samba 2.2.4 is not suitable to have 2 servers that
users can authetificate.

Hope i can find a solution...


Yannick


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Tarjei Huse
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:02 AM
> To: Klaus Zahradnik
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
>
>
>
>
> Did you see the other BDC howto? Combine this with a replicated
> openldap server
> and I think you're done, although I've never had the need :)
>
> Tarjei
>
> >
> > PLEASE!?! :o)
> >
> > Klaus
> >
> > On 4 Jun 2002 at 7:55, Cates, Brett wrote:
> >
> > > Can samba act as a BDC?  I thought I read somewhere that it
> can only be a
> > > PDC or a member server.  I could be wrong though...
> > >
> > > Brett
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Yannick Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:47 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to build a PDC and BDC to elimenate Windows NT on a
> > > network and have load balancing and fault tolerence for users.
> > >
> > > I've compiled samba 2.2.4 on two servers, working with openldap 2.0.23
> > > with a master and a slave. Replication on LDAP servers works fine.
> > > I've set up a domain controller and wanted to set the other server
> > > as BDC in case the PDC goes down. Each time i put the
> > > "domain logons = yes" option, some people can't log in, computers
> > > seems to seek for a domain controler. Also, logon script aren't
> > > executed upon login... When i disconnect network cable on the
> > > PDC, users can log into the BDC fine but login script arenèt executed.
> > > When i plug back the pdc, some users can't no longer login (bad user).
> > > When i disconnect the BDC, everything work fine.
> > >
> > > For now i disabled the "domain logons = yes" on the BDC, so there is
> > > no load balancing and fault tolerence for users. =(
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is my smb.conf on both servers :
> > >
> > >
> > > PDC :
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > [global]
> > >
> > > netbios name = PDC
> > > workgroup = OKA
> > > os level = 64
> > > preferred master = yes
> > > domain master = yes
> > > local master = yes
> > > security = user
> > > encrypt passwords = yes
> > > domain logons = yes
> > > time server = yes
> > > ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> > > ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> > > ldap ssl = off
> > > ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> > > ldap port = 389
> > > logon path =
> > > logon home =
> > > logon script = users.bat
> > > domain admin group = root
> > >
> > >
> > > [netlogon]
> > >
> > > path = /home/netlogon
> > > read only = yes
> > > write list = root
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > BDC :
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > [global]
> > >
> > > netbios name = BDC
> > > workgroup = OKA
> > > security = user
> > > encrypt passwords = yes
> > > domain logons = yes
> > > os level = 63
> > > local master = yes
> > > domain master = no
> > > time server = yes
> > > ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> > > ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> > > ldap ssl = off
> > > ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> > > ldap port =

RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-04 Thread Tarjei Huse



Did you see the other BDC howto? Combine this with a replicated openldap server 
and I think you're done, although I've never had the need :)

Tarjei

> 
> PLEASE!?! :o)
> 
> Klaus
> 
> On 4 Jun 2002 at 7:55, Cates, Brett wrote:
> 
> > Can samba act as a BDC?  I thought I read somewhere that it can only be a
> > PDC or a member server.  I could be wrong though...
> > 
> > Brett
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yannick Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:47 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm trying to build a PDC and BDC to elimenate Windows NT on a
> > network and have load balancing and fault tolerence for users.
> > 
> > I've compiled samba 2.2.4 on two servers, working with openldap 2.0.23
> > with a master and a slave. Replication on LDAP servers works fine.
> > I've set up a domain controller and wanted to set the other server
> > as BDC in case the PDC goes down. Each time i put the
> > "domain logons = yes" option, some people can't log in, computers
> > seems to seek for a domain controler. Also, logon script aren't
> > executed upon login... When i disconnect network cable on the
> > PDC, users can log into the BDC fine but login script arenèt executed.
> > When i plug back the pdc, some users can't no longer login (bad user).
> > When i disconnect the BDC, everything work fine.
> > 
> > For now i disabled the "domain logons = yes" on the BDC, so there is
> > no load balancing and fault tolerence for users. =(
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Here is my smb.conf on both servers :
> > 
> > 
> > PDC :
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [global]
> > 
> > netbios name = PDC
> > workgroup = OKA
> > os level = 64
> > preferred master = yes
> > domain master = yes
> > local master = yes
> > security = user
> > encrypt passwords = yes
> > domain logons = yes
> > time server = yes
> > ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> > ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> > ldap ssl = off
> > ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> > ldap port = 389
> > logon path =
> > logon home =
> > logon script = users.bat
> > domain admin group = root
> > 
> > 
> > [netlogon]
> > 
> > path = /home/netlogon
> > read only = yes
> > write list = root
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > BDC :
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [global]
> > 
> > netbios name = BDC
> > workgroup = OKA
> > security = user
> > encrypt passwords = yes
> > domain logons = yes
> > os level = 63
> > local master = yes
> > domain master = no
> > time server = yes
> > ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> > ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> > ldap ssl = off
> > ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> > ldap port = 389
> > logon path =
> > logon home =
> > logon script = users.bat
> > domain admin group = root
> > 
> > [netlogon]
> > 
> > path = /home/netlogon
> > read only = yes
> > write list = root
> > 
> > 
> > ===
> > 
> > Hope i can do something about it... thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > Yannick Tousignant
> > ===
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> > Téléphone : (514) 282-9334 (#238)
> > 
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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-04 Thread Klaus Zahradnik

Nope, I just checked in a Book. It can't act as a Backup Domain Controler. :o(

PLEASE!?! :o)

Klaus

On 4 Jun 2002 at 7:55, Cates, Brett wrote:

> Can samba act as a BDC?  I thought I read somewhere that it can only be a
> PDC or a member server.  I could be wrong though...
> 
> Brett
> -Original Message-
> From: Yannick Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to build a PDC and BDC to elimenate Windows NT on a
> network and have load balancing and fault tolerence for users.
> 
> I've compiled samba 2.2.4 on two servers, working with openldap 2.0.23
> with a master and a slave. Replication on LDAP servers works fine.
> I've set up a domain controller and wanted to set the other server
> as BDC in case the PDC goes down. Each time i put the
> "domain logons = yes" option, some people can't log in, computers
> seems to seek for a domain controler. Also, logon script aren't
> executed upon login... When i disconnect network cable on the
> PDC, users can log into the BDC fine but login script arenèt executed.
> When i plug back the pdc, some users can't no longer login (bad user).
> When i disconnect the BDC, everything work fine.
> 
> For now i disabled the "domain logons = yes" on the BDC, so there is
> no load balancing and fault tolerence for users. =(
> 
> 
> 
> Here is my smb.conf on both servers :
> 
> 
> PDC :
> 
> 
> 
> [global]
> 
> netbios name = PDC
> workgroup = OKA
> os level = 64
> preferred master = yes
> domain master = yes
> local master = yes
> security = user
> encrypt passwords = yes
> domain logons = yes
> time server = yes
> ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> ldap ssl = off
> ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> ldap port = 389
> logon path =
> logon home =
> logon script = users.bat
> domain admin group = root
> 
> 
> [netlogon]
> 
> path = /home/netlogon
> read only = yes
> write list = root
> 
> 
> 
> BDC :
> 
> 
> 
> [global]
> 
> netbios name = BDC
> workgroup = OKA
> security = user
> encrypt passwords = yes
> domain logons = yes
> os level = 63
> local master = yes
> domain master = no
> time server = yes
> ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> ldap ssl = off
> ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> ldap port = 389
> logon path =
> logon home =
> logon script = users.bat
> domain admin group = root
> 
> [netlogon]
> 
> path = /home/netlogon
> read only = yes
> write list = root
> 
> 
> ===
> 
> Hope i can do something about it... thanks!
> 
> 
> Yannick Tousignant
> ===
> Gestion Informatique OKA ltée.
> Téléphone : (514) 282-9334 (#238)
> 
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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-04 Thread Yannick Tousignant

In this link :

http://www.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/Samba-BDC-HOWTO.html

It seems possible to act like BDC as long as the PDC is a samba machine.
I did everyting there, and both servers have the same secrets.tdb file.

thanks for helping me!

Yannick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Cates, Brett
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: 'Yannick Tousignant'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
>
>
> Can samba act as a BDC?  I thought I read somewhere that it can only be a
> PDC or a member server.  I could be wrong though...
>
> Brett
> -Original Message-
> From: Yannick Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to build a PDC and BDC to elimenate Windows NT on a
> network and have load balancing and fault tolerence for users.
>
> I've compiled samba 2.2.4 on two servers, working with openldap 2.0.23
> with a master and a slave. Replication on LDAP servers works fine.
> I've set up a domain controller and wanted to set the other server
> as BDC in case the PDC goes down. Each time i put the
> "domain logons = yes" option, some people can't log in, computers
> seems to seek for a domain controler. Also, logon script aren't
> executed upon login... When i disconnect network cable on the
> PDC, users can log into the BDC fine but login script arenèt executed.
> When i plug back the pdc, some users can't no longer login (bad user).
> When i disconnect the BDC, everything work fine.
>
> For now i disabled the "domain logons = yes" on the BDC, so there is
> no load balancing and fault tolerence for users. =(
>
>
>
> Here is my smb.conf on both servers :
>
>
> PDC :
>
> 
>
> [global]
>
> netbios name = PDC
> workgroup = OKA
> os level = 64
> preferred master = yes
> domain master = yes
> local master = yes
> security = user
> encrypt passwords = yes
> domain logons = yes
> time server = yes
> ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> ldap ssl = off
> ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> ldap port = 389
> logon path =
> logon home =
> logon script = users.bat
> domain admin group = root
>
>
> [netlogon]
>
> path = /home/netlogon
> read only = yes
> write list = root
>
> 
>
> BDC :
>
> 
>
> [global]
>
> netbios name = BDC
> workgroup = OKA
> security = user
> encrypt passwords = yes
> domain logons = yes
> os level = 63
> local master = yes
> domain master = no
> time server = yes
> ldap suffix = dc=OKA
> ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
> ldap ssl = off
> ldap server = 127.0.0.1
> ldap port = 389
> logon path =
> logon home =
> logon script = users.bat
> domain admin group = root
>
> [netlogon]
>
> path = /home/netlogon
> read only = yes
> write list = root
>
>
> ===
>
> Hope i can do something about it... thanks!
>
>
> Yannick Tousignant
> ===
> Gestion Informatique OKA ltée.
> Téléphone : (514) 282-9334 (#238)
>
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RE: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-04 Thread Cates, Brett

Can samba act as a BDC?  I thought I read somewhere that it can only be a
PDC or a member server.  I could be wrong though...

Brett
-Original Message-
From: Yannick Tousignant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4



Hi,

I'm trying to build a PDC and BDC to elimenate Windows NT on a
network and have load balancing and fault tolerence for users.

I've compiled samba 2.2.4 on two servers, working with openldap 2.0.23
with a master and a slave. Replication on LDAP servers works fine.
I've set up a domain controller and wanted to set the other server
as BDC in case the PDC goes down. Each time i put the
"domain logons = yes" option, some people can't log in, computers
seems to seek for a domain controler. Also, logon script aren't
executed upon login... When i disconnect network cable on the
PDC, users can log into the BDC fine but login script arenèt executed.
When i plug back the pdc, some users can't no longer login (bad user).
When i disconnect the BDC, everything work fine.

For now i disabled the "domain logons = yes" on the BDC, so there is
no load balancing and fault tolerence for users. =(



Here is my smb.conf on both servers :


PDC :



[global]

netbios name = PDC
workgroup = OKA
os level = 64
preferred master = yes
domain master = yes
local master = yes
security = user
encrypt passwords = yes
domain logons = yes
time server = yes
ldap suffix = dc=OKA
ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
ldap ssl = off
ldap server = 127.0.0.1
ldap port = 389
logon path =
logon home =
logon script = users.bat
domain admin group = root


[netlogon]

path = /home/netlogon
read only = yes
write list = root



BDC :



[global]

netbios name = BDC
workgroup = OKA
security = user
encrypt passwords = yes
domain logons = yes
os level = 63
local master = yes
domain master = no
time server = yes
ldap suffix = dc=OKA
ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
ldap ssl = off
ldap server = 127.0.0.1
ldap port = 389
logon path =
logon home =
logon script = users.bat
domain admin group = root

[netlogon]

path = /home/netlogon
read only = yes
write list = root


===

Hope i can do something about it... thanks!


Yannick Tousignant
===
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Téléphone : (514) 282-9334 (#238)


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[Samba] PDC and BDC with LDAP and Samba 2.2.4

2002-06-04 Thread Yannick Tousignant


Hi,

I'm trying to build a PDC and BDC to elimenate Windows NT on a
network and have load balancing and fault tolerence for users.

I've compiled samba 2.2.4 on two servers, working with openldap 2.0.23
with a master and a slave. Replication on LDAP servers works fine.
I've set up a domain controller and wanted to set the other server
as BDC in case the PDC goes down. Each time i put the
"domain logons = yes" option, some people can't log in, computers
seems to seek for a domain controler. Also, logon script aren't
executed upon login... When i disconnect network cable on the
PDC, users can log into the BDC fine but login script arenèt executed.
When i plug back the pdc, some users can't no longer login (bad user).
When i disconnect the BDC, everything work fine.

For now i disabled the "domain logons = yes" on the BDC, so there is
no load balancing and fault tolerence for users. =(



Here is my smb.conf on both servers :


PDC :



[global]

netbios name = PDC
workgroup = OKA
os level = 64
preferred master = yes
domain master = yes
local master = yes
security = user
encrypt passwords = yes
domain logons = yes
time server = yes
ldap suffix = dc=OKA
ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
ldap ssl = off
ldap server = 127.0.0.1
ldap port = 389
logon path =
logon home =
logon script = users.bat
domain admin group = root


[netlogon]

path = /home/netlogon
read only = yes
write list = root



BDC :



[global]

netbios name = BDC
workgroup = OKA
security = user
encrypt passwords = yes
domain logons = yes
os level = 63
local master = yes
domain master = no
time server = yes
ldap suffix = dc=OKA
ldap admin dn = cn=ADMIN,dc=OKA
ldap ssl = off
ldap server = 127.0.0.1
ldap port = 389
logon path =
logon home =
logon script = users.bat
domain admin group = root

[netlogon]

path = /home/netlogon
read only = yes
write list = root


===

Hope i can do something about it... thanks!


Yannick Tousignant
===
Gestion Informatique OKA ltée.
Téléphone : (514) 282-9334 (#238)


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