Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/02/19 23:09 (GMT+0100) Volker Lendecke apparently typed:

> I'll see if we can assemble something out of these URLs

Depending on what "access" actually means, an announcement submitted to the
first URL I listed might be enough.

> without too much budget... For example on the ecomstation
> website a very brief scan did not show the price I would
> have to pay for a copy. Or would the demo CD be enough?

I don't know about the demo. http://os2.mensys.nl/ handles sales, but a
direct request to Bob St.John at Serenity Systems from the right person or
people might generate gratis or discounted copy(s) in order to facilitate bug
fixes.
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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-19 Thread Chris Smith
On Tuesday 19 February 2008, Felix Miata wrote:
> There is at least one open time
> stamping bug that makes the connections worthless.

Wondering which OS's exactly. Is it just OS2? Or Windows 95? Or Windows 
98? Or Windows ME?

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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-19 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 04:51:36PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> This is the first such request I've actually seen, though Guenter Kukkukk
> mentioned it on IRC last week. To make it happen, your specifications for
> "access" need to get into the hands of those in a position to answer your
> request. This is not that place, since few or none who use "OS/2" frequent
> here. Some public places I can think of to do it include:

Ok, lots of info. Thanks!

I'll see if we can assemble something out of these URLs
without too much budget... For example on the ecomstation
website a very brief scan did not show the price I would
have to pay for a copy. Or would the demo CD be enough?

Volker


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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/02/19 20:54 (GMT+0100) Volker Lendecke apparently typed:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:23:02PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

>> > I think cifs should be able to work in those cases...

>> Someday that may be true, but today it can't. There is at least one open time
>> stamping bug that makes the connections worthless. Getting such bugs fixed is
>> easier said than done, because virtually none, or possibly 100%, of the
>> people who might fix them, keep OS/2 or WinDOS systems available for the
>> purpose of testing.

> How many times do I have to repeat this? If anybody can tell
> me how I can access an OS/2 box I would be more than happy
> to fix OS/2 bugs. Virtually everybody but the Samba Team
> there seems to use OS/2 on a daily basis, but nobody is able
> to tell us how to run it. I don't understand this.

This is the first such request I've actually seen, though Guenter Kukkukk
mentioned it on IRC last week. To make it happen, your specifications for
"access" need to get into the hands of those in a position to answer your
request. This is not that place, since few or none who use "OS/2" frequent
here. Some public places I can think of to do it include:

http://www.os2voice.org/SubmitNews.php
news.ecomstation.nl:ecomstation.support.networking
news:comp.os.os2.bugs
news:comp.os.os2.networking.misc
news:comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/os2-linux/?yguid=120549840
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eCS-Technical/?yguid=120549840
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eComStation/?yguid=120549840
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/os2hardware/?yguid=120549840
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/os2user/?yguid=120549840
http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=TEAMOS2HELP-L&H=NIC.SURFNET.NL
irc://irc.ecomstation.com/#ecs

Another good place would be to contact Serenity Systems directly.
http://www.ecomstation.com/about_us.phtml

> P.S: A really smart intern in my office tried for at least
> two weeks to install OS/2 on the oldest PC that we have
> around, but it just refuses to run.

eComStation, the current OS/2 product, is not a big deal to install on most
current decade hardware: http://www.ecomstation.com/ The current eCS product
is the 27 month old v1.2, while the most recent RC of v2.0 is about a month old.

Warp 4 was no fun to get installed on the contemporary hardware of its 1996
release, and it only got worse as technology advanced. Anyone who wants to
run OS/2 on recent or current hardware needs to be using MCP installation
media, or eCS installation media, both of which start about 4 years more
recent, and are much easier to install than the original Warp 4. To install
the original Warp 4 on newer hardware usually requires updating its
installation CD: http://www.updcd.tk/

Once installed, it's readily portable to other systems via partition cloning,
and doesn't halt on finding new hardware like windoz does. The version I'm
running here on an i915P Socket 775 SATA system was originally installed on a
i865P PATA system around 4 years ago. My previous installation has been run
on probably a dozen different systems, both AMD & Intel, Socket 7, Socket
370, Slot 1, Socket A, and Socket 478.
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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-19 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:23:02PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> > I think cifs should be able to work in those cases...
> 
> Someday that may be true, but today it can't. There is at least one open time
> stamping bug that makes the connections worthless. Getting such bugs fixed is
> easier said than done, because virtually none, or possibly 100%, of the
> people who might fix them, keep OS/2 or WinDOS systems available for the
> purpose of testing.

How many times do I have to repeat this? If anybody can tell
me how I can access an OS/2 box I would be more than happy
to fix OS/2 bugs. Virtually everybody but the Samba Team
there seems to use OS/2 on a daily basis, but nobody is able
to tell us how to run it. I don't understand this.

Volker

P.S: A really smart intern in my office tried for at least
two weeks to install OS/2 on the oldest PC that we have
around, but it just refuses to run.


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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/02/19 12:54 (GMT-0500) Chris Smith apparently typed:

> On Friday 01 February 2008, Felix Miata wrote:

>> If you have Win9x and/or OS/2 shares on your network, you'll need to
>> recompile your SUSE kernel to include SMBFS support to provide
>> acceptable access to those shares.

> I think cifs should be able to work in those cases...

Someday that may be true, but today it can't. There is at least one open time
stamping bug that makes the connections worthless. Getting such bugs fixed is
easier said than done, because virtually none, or possibly 100%, of the
people who might fix them, keep OS/2 or WinDOS systems available for the
purpose of testing.
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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-19 Thread Chris Smith
On Friday 01 February 2008, Felix Miata wrote:
> If you have Win9x and/or OS/2 shares on your network, you'll need to
> recompile your SUSE kernel to include SMBFS support to provide
> acceptable access to those shares.

I think cifs should be able to work in those cases, but I can't 
personally verify it. See page 4 of the cifs client documentation at: 
http://pserver.samba.org/samba/ftp/cifs-cvs/linux-cifs-client-guide.pdf

Excerpt:
=
2) mount syntax:
mounting to older servers (those prior to1997) may require specifying 
two additional fields beyond those which smbfs required:

a) The server's netbios (RFC1001) name AND the server's tcp (or ip ) 
address. CIFS does not assume, as smbfs did, that the tcp name and the 
netbios name of the server are the same. The netbios name of the server 
is specified by passing the mount option “servern=SERVERNAME” and is 
not assumed to be necessarily the same as the tcp name of the server 
(also note that the netbios name is usually capitalized). Both tcp/ip 
name and netbios name have to be specified for mounts for most old 
lanman servers. For example:
mount -t cifs //tcp-name-of-server/sharename /mnt -o 
user=username,sec=lanman,servern=SERVERNAME

b) A security option allowing weaker password hashes to be used. 
Specifying “sec=lanman” in the mount options allows the client to send 
weaker lanman hashes to the server. Older servers such as Windows 98 
require this. Mounting to more current servers with stronger 
authentication (ntlmv2) typically requires an additional mount option 
(unless the security flags are changed in /proc/fs/cifs) “sec=ntlmv2”
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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-01 Thread Adam Williams

use mount -t cifs

Trimble, Ronald D wrote:

Hello,
I have the following Samba RPMs installed...
samba-client-3.0.26a-0.5
samba-3.0.26a-0.5
samba-pdb-3.0.26a-0.5
yast2-samba-server-2.9.33-0.3
kdebase3-samba-3.2.1-68.62
samba-winbind-3.0.26a-0.5
yast2-samba-client-2.9.18-0.3
samba-python-3.0.26a-0.5

I used to be able to do a mount with -t smbfs, but not I get 
this message whenever I try it.

Version 3.0.26a-0.5-1590-SUSE-SLES9

Please be aware that smbfs is deprecated in favor of cifs

How do I get this back to using SMBFS?

Thanks,
Ron


  


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Re: [Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/02/01 10:59 (GMT-0600) Trimble, Ronald D apparently typed:

> I have the following Samba RPMs installed...
> samba-client-3.0.26a-0.5
> samba-3.0.26a-0.5
> samba-pdb-3.0.26a-0.5
> yast2-samba-server-2.9.33-0.3
> kdebase3-samba-3.2.1-68.62
> samba-winbind-3.0.26a-0.5
> yast2-samba-client-2.9.18-0.3
> samba-python-3.0.26a-0.5

> I used to be able to do a mount with -t smbfs, but not I get 
> this message whenever I try it.

> Version 3.0.26a-0.5-1590-SUSE-SLES9

> Please be aware that smbfs is deprecated in favor of cifs

> How do I get this back to using SMBFS?

If you can get CIFS to work as a replacement to SMBFS, that's what you should
do. If you have Win9x and/or OS/2 shares on your network, you'll need to
recompile your SUSE kernel to include SMBFS support to provide acceptable
access to those shares. The kernel developers seem to have planned to remove
the possibility to recompile with SMBFS enabled in post-2.6.24 kernels.
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[Samba] Problem with SMBFS vs CIFS

2008-02-01 Thread Trimble, Ronald D
Hello,
I have the following Samba RPMs installed...
samba-client-3.0.26a-0.5
samba-3.0.26a-0.5
samba-pdb-3.0.26a-0.5
yast2-samba-server-2.9.33-0.3
kdebase3-samba-3.2.1-68.62
samba-winbind-3.0.26a-0.5
yast2-samba-client-2.9.18-0.3
samba-python-3.0.26a-0.5

I used to be able to do a mount with -t smbfs, but not I get 
this message whenever I try it.

Version 3.0.26a-0.5-1590-SUSE-SLES9

Please be aware that smbfs is deprecated in favor of cifs

How do I get this back to using SMBFS?

Thanks,
Ron


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