RE: [Samba] Roaming Profiles - the next step (OT)

2005-11-09 Thread Louis van Belle
I have a solution for this, i'm translating it to english now
so be patient ... 

Louis
 

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Verzonden: dinsdag 8 november 2005 22:33
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Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Roaming Profiles - the next step (OT)

Nicholas Brealey schrieb:

 Simon Faulkner wrote:

 So,  if I switch to Thunderbird and use IMAP can I get a fully 
 roaming profile?


 If only this was true!

 Sorry for this gripe, it has being annoying me for years!

 GRIPE
 Take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74085

 This bug took 4 years from the report to claimed fix.
 I need to try Thunderbird 1.5 to see if it is really fixed.
 (So much for Mozilla being more responsive to users than Microsoft!)

 Thunderbird may still be storing IMAP cache data in CSIDL_APPDATA
 instead of CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA which means users roaming 
profiles become
 huge.

 Thunderbird also lacks an option to delete locally cached copies
 of messages.

 Outlook Express uses CSIDL_APPDATA and CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA properly 
 and has an option for deleting the locally cached copies of 
downloaded 
 e-mails.

 I like Thunderbird much better than Outlook Express but have had to 
 encourgae my users to use OE because of this problem.
 /GRIPE

 Follow ups should probably not go to the Samba list!

 Nick

Hi,
Nick  is right ,big imap caching files reside in the profile too which 
can lead to problems, dont know if its fixed in Thunderbird 1.5
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[Samba] Roaming Profiles - the next step

2005-11-08 Thread Simon Faulkner
Thanks to the enthuiastic help of Mr. Dan Shearer and the excellent 
writings of John H. Terpstra (Samba-3 by Example) I have migrated an NT4 
PDC to Samba 3.0.14a-2 on Fedora Core 4 (Cries of amazement)


The clients (XP, NT4WS, Win2K, 98 and 95) didn't notice the switch (once 
I had made all the correct folders!)


My questions now are fine tuning and filling in gaps in my Windows 
knowledge.


Roaming Profiles - seems like a great idea.  Login on any PC and get all 
your settings etc.


So why have a local settings folder in your profile that doesn't move? 
  This means that your email won't travel and your .pst gets 
shredded/copied/mangled.


I guess it's because a .pst can end up at 2 Gb and would kill logins?

So,  if I switch to Thunderbird and use IMAP can I get a fully roaming 
profile?


Simon

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Re: [Samba] Roaming Profiles - the next step

2005-11-08 Thread Robert Schetterer

Simon Faulkner schrieb:

Thanks to the enthuiastic help of Mr. Dan Shearer and the excellent 
writings of John H. Terpstra (Samba-3 by Example) I have migrated an 
NT4 PDC to Samba 3.0.14a-2 on Fedora Core 4 (Cries of amazement)


The clients (XP, NT4WS, Win2K, 98 and 95) didn't notice the switch 
(once I had made all the correct folders!)


My questions now are fine tuning and filling in gaps in my Windows 
knowledge.


Roaming Profiles - seems like a great idea.  Login on any PC and get 
all your settings etc.


So why have a local settings folder in your profile that doesn't 
move?   This means that your email won't travel and your .pst gets 
shredded/copied/mangled.


I guess it's because a .pst can end up at 2 Gb and would kill logins?

So,  if I switch to Thunderbird and use IMAP can I get a fully roaming 
profile?


Simon


Hi Simon,
youre not right ,the pst file can be hosted where ever you want, theres 
no need to have it in the profile
you can control the behavior of outlook and its default pst file ( means 
default place for the default pst file for a new user )

by a group policy or simple with outlook itself by hand.
A good place  for a pst  is the a folder on the users home on the samba 
server.
But notice dont use vfs antivirus with pst files cause it will be very 
slow, after all opening a 2G pst over the network will get slow in any case.
Notice that pst primer outlook 2003 will get corrupt if the get bigger 
then 1.5 GB.
After  all switch to imap  and thunderbird is  a good  idea  in any  
case, but mostly fails with outlook junkies

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Re: [Samba] Roaming Profiles - the next step (OT)

2005-11-08 Thread Nicholas Brealey

Simon Faulkner wrote:
So,  if I switch to Thunderbird and use IMAP can I get a fully roaming 
profile?


If only this was true!

Sorry for this gripe, it has being annoying me for years!

GRIPE
Take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74085

This bug took 4 years from the report to claimed fix.
I need to try Thunderbird 1.5 to see if it is really fixed.
(So much for Mozilla being more responsive to users than Microsoft!)

Thunderbird may still be storing IMAP cache data in CSIDL_APPDATA
instead of CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA which means users roaming profiles become
huge.

Thunderbird also lacks an option to delete locally cached copies
of messages.

Outlook Express uses CSIDL_APPDATA and CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA properly and 
has an option for deleting the locally cached copies of downloaded e-mails.


I like Thunderbird much better than Outlook Express but have had to 
encourgae my users to use OE because of this problem.

/GRIPE

Follow ups should probably not go to the Samba list!

Nick

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Re: [Samba] Roaming Profiles - the next step (OT)

2005-11-08 Thread Robert Schetterer

Nicholas Brealey schrieb:


Simon Faulkner wrote:

So,  if I switch to Thunderbird and use IMAP can I get a fully 
roaming profile?



If only this was true!

Sorry for this gripe, it has being annoying me for years!

GRIPE
Take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74085

This bug took 4 years from the report to claimed fix.
I need to try Thunderbird 1.5 to see if it is really fixed.
(So much for Mozilla being more responsive to users than Microsoft!)

Thunderbird may still be storing IMAP cache data in CSIDL_APPDATA
instead of CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA which means users roaming profiles become
huge.

Thunderbird also lacks an option to delete locally cached copies
of messages.

Outlook Express uses CSIDL_APPDATA and CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA properly 
and has an option for deleting the locally cached copies of downloaded 
e-mails.


I like Thunderbird much better than Outlook Express but have had to 
encourgae my users to use OE because of this problem.

/GRIPE

Follow ups should probably not go to the Samba list!

Nick


Hi,
Nick  is right ,big imap caching files reside in the profile too which 
can lead to problems, dont know if its fixed in Thunderbird 1.5

Regards
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Re: [Samba] Roaming Profiles - the next step (OT)

2005-11-08 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 21:24 +, Nicholas Brealey wrote:
 Simon Faulkner wrote:
  So,  if I switch to Thunderbird and use IMAP can I get a fully roaming 
  profile?
 
 If only this was true!
 
 Sorry for this gripe, it has being annoying me for years!
 
 GRIPE
 Take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74085
 
 This bug took 4 years from the report to claimed fix.
 I need to try Thunderbird 1.5 to see if it is really fixed.
 (So much for Mozilla being more responsive to users than Microsoft!)
 
 Thunderbird may still be storing IMAP cache data in CSIDL_APPDATA
 instead of CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA which means users roaming profiles become
 huge.
 
 Thunderbird also lacks an option to delete locally cached copies
 of messages.
 
 Outlook Express uses CSIDL_APPDATA and CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA properly and 
 has an option for deleting the locally cached copies of downloaded e-mails.
 
 I like Thunderbird much better than Outlook Express but have had to 
 encourgae my users to use OE because of this problem.
 /GRIPE
 
 Follow ups should probably not go to the Samba list!

agreed - like Outlook, Outlook Express you can store the profile in the
users home directory instead though or use redirection.

Craig


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