Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
On 1/4/06, Gerald (Jerry) Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deryck does something like this at work but I think it's geared > to support multiple concurrent writers. Does use svn as the > backed IIRC. > > Maybe he can add a few comments. In my setup, the share is itself a subversion working copy. At the end of the day, I have a script commit the changes. My need is only for an easy backup of the day's work. I don't have to negotiate between changes by multiple users on the same file. I'll probably work my setup into a proper VFS module at some point, but I don't think it would do what the original poster wanted -- i.e. make backup copies when users save the file. I'm not sure how you could sanely negotiate merges from all those backups anyway, but maybe there's a way. Cheers, deryck -- Deryck Hodge http://www.devurandom.org/ Samba Team http://www.samba.org/ Auburn University Libraries http://www.lib.auburn.edu/ Have you ever stood and stared at it? Marveled at its beauty? Its genius? Billions of people just living out their lives, oblivious. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > There is no single occurance of (document) "versioning" nor > "version control" in the whole Samba-3 by Example. > And "version controlling" is mentioned only briefly in the > HOWTO where shadow_copy is described (with "do not use > for version controlling" in bold). Deryck does something like this at work but I think it's geared to support multiple concurrent writers. Does use svn as the backed IIRC. Maybe he can add a few comments. cheers, jerry = Alleviating the pain of Windows(tm) --- http://www.samba.org Centeris --- http://www.centeris.com "There's an anonymous coward in all of us." --anonymous -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDvCmFIR7qMdg1EfYRAisvAKCCBmonulir1PFSXQ/2S8ND3eZhOgCfX1vz NkoaJafPaKDDe83Jae6xjqs= =Q3pj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
John H Terpstra schrieb: (...) And "version controlling" is mentioned only briefly in the HOWTO where shadow_copy is described (with "do not use for version controlling" in bold). Correct. If you want flexible and managable file versioning on a Samba share it will most likely be necessary to write a VFS module to do that. Or some FUSE-like filesystem. When you send a novice to read the HOWTO, it's like telling them to practice for running a marathon before they can walk. It's like telling them to read a mechanic's guide before they know what is a car. Same happens when a "real proffessional" can't read more than half of the subject of one's post... I believe you are being a little unkind here. I admit that I overlooked the thrust of your request. For that I apologise. What has been "unprofessional" about my request? Did you mean to insult me? No, just Santa doesn't love me and I had a bad day. Sorry for being rude. -- Tomek -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
On Thursday 22 December 2005 09:11, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > Hmm? Have you actually read my original post? No, I did not read it in detail - I scanned it. Sorry, I did miss the thrust of your question. > There is no single occurance of (document) "versioning" nor "version > control" in the whole Samba-3 by Example. That is perfectly correct. There won't be either, unless someone contributes a chapter geared towards example deployment of neat ways of implementing very advanced capabilities. > And "version controlling" is mentioned only briefly in the HOWTO where > shadow_copy is described (with "do not use for version controlling" in > bold). Correct. If you want flexible and managable file versioning on a Samba share it will most likely be necessary to write a VFS module to do that. > > When you send a novice to read the HOWTO, it's like telling them to > > practice for running a marathon before they can walk. It's like telling > > them to read a mechanic's guide before they know what is a car. > > Same happens when a "real proffessional" can't read more than half of > the subject of one's post... I believe you are being a little unkind here. I admit that I overlooked the thrust of your request. For that I apologise. What has been "unprofessional" about my request? Did you mean to insult me? - John T. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
While Samba is a great tool, there is no one tool that will work for every occasion. The use you are describing may be very well served with a collaboration tool, such as a Wiki. A web based solution, there are many flavors out there which have various levels of security and accessories. Personally, I happen to favor TWiki (see http://www.twiki.org/). It has a fair CVS system built in, can support multiple projects simultaneously, and many other useful features. You user simply goes to a web page, views the document, edits it as necessary, and moves on. It is fairly user friendly. If your user can learn to log into a computer, open Word, edit a document, close it, and later find the dame document, he should have little problem with a Wiki site. Previous copies are retained, and there is a difference feature which will highlight the changes between recent versions. Just a thought. Michael Tomasz Chmielewski told me on 12/22/2005 09:24: I am looking for some solution, working with Samba preferably, which would allow multiple users to work on one document. This means that if a user makes a change to the document, a previous version of that document is saved somewhere else. For example, user A opens a document (rw - read/write, ro - read-only document): rw \\server\share\document.txt User makes some changes, and saves it to the same place. This SVN/CVS-like share handles the change inteligently, and makes a copy of the previous file to a ro file somewhere else: ro \\server\share\backup\2005.12.22-16:24:04\document.txt Do you have something in mind which would allow me to do something like that *transparently* to the user (assuming the user doesn't know much more about computers than opening Word document etc.)? -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
Tomasz, You can use subversion to accomplish what you are doing easily. In subversion there are these hook scripts ( http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch05s02.html#svn-ch-5-sect-2.1) that can be invoked when a user commits or checkout a file. So in your case you can write a simple commit hook that copies the last version to a ro filesystem and then commits the document. > When you send a novice to read the HOWTO, it's like telling them to practice > for running a marathon before they can walk. It's like telling them to read a > mechanic's guide before they know what is a car. John I think you are assuming too much here about the user from one simple email question. I do see the point you are trying to make, but how is Dmitriy to know what skill level Tomasz possess? Also often the user might be just trying to find out that it can be done. Vijay Avarachen :wq! On 12/22/05, Tomasz Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am looking for some solution, working with Samba preferably, which > would allow multiple users to work on one document. > > This means that if a user makes a change to the document, a previous > version of that document is saved somewhere else. > > For example, user A opens a document (rw - read/write, ro - read-only > document): > > rw \\server\share\document.txt > > User makes some changes, and saves it to the same place. > > This SVN/CVS-like share handles the change inteligently, and makes a > copy of the previous file to a ro file somewhere else: > > ro \\server\share\backup\2005.12.22-16:24:04\document.txt > > > Do you have something in mind which would allow me to do something like > that *transparently* to the user (assuming the user doesn't know much > more about computers than opening Word document etc.)? > > > -- > Tomek > http://wpkg.org > WPKG - software management with Samba > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- "Knowledge is the only wealth that grows as you spend it, and diminishes as you save it." -- ancient Sanskrit saying -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
John H Terpstra schrieb: On Thursday 22 December 2005 08:24, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: I am looking for some solution, working with Samba preferably, which would allow multiple users to work on one document. This means that if a user makes a change to the document, a previous version of that document is saved somewhere else. For example, user A opens a document (rw - read/write, ro - read-only document): rw \\server\share\document.txt User makes some changes, and saves it to the same place. This SVN/CVS-like share handles the change inteligently, and makes a copy of the previous file to a ro file somewhere else: ro \\server\share\backup\2005.12.22-16:24:04\document.txt Do you have something in mind which would allow me to do something like that *transparently* to the user (assuming the user doesn't know much more about computers than opening Word document etc.)? http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba3-ByExample.pdf Folks, please refer all who ask deployment related questions to the "Samba-3 By Example book", not "The Official Samba-3 HOWTO and Reference Guide". Hmm? Have you actually read my original post? There is no single occurance of (document) "versioning" nor "version control" in the whole Samba-3 by Example. And "version controlling" is mentioned only briefly in the HOWTO where shadow_copy is described (with "do not use for version controlling" in bold). When you send a novice to read the HOWTO, it's like telling them to practice for running a marathon before they can walk. It's like telling them to read a mechanic's guide before they know what is a car. Same happens when a "real proffessional" can't read more than half of the subject of one's post... -- Tomek -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
On Thursday 22 December 2005 08:24, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > I am looking for some solution, working with Samba preferably, which > would allow multiple users to work on one document. > > This means that if a user makes a change to the document, a previous > version of that document is saved somewhere else. > > For example, user A opens a document (rw - read/write, ro - read-only > document): > > rw \\server\share\document.txt > > User makes some changes, and saves it to the same place. > > This SVN/CVS-like share handles the change inteligently, and makes a > copy of the previous file to a ro file somewhere else: > > ro \\server\share\backup\2005.12.22-16:24:04\document.txt > > > Do you have something in mind which would allow me to do something like > that *transparently* to the user (assuming the user doesn't know much > more about computers than opening Word document etc.)? http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba3-ByExample.pdf Folks, please refer all who ask deployment related questions to the "Samba-3 By Example book", not "The Official Samba-3 HOWTO and Reference Guide". When you send a novice to read the HOWTO, it's like telling them to practice for running a marathon before they can walk. It's like telling them to read a mechanic's guide before they know what is a car. - John T. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
Hi! On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 04:24:59PM +0100, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > This SVN/CVS-like share handles the change inteligently, and makes a copy of > the > previous file to a ro file somewhere else: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/VFS.html#id2618377 ? WBR -- Dmitriy Kirhlarov OILspace, 26 Leninskaya sloboda, bld. 2, 2nd floor, 115280 Moscow, Russia P:+7 495 105 7247 ext.203 F:+7 495 105 7246 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OILspace - The resource enriched - www.oilspace.com -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] SVN/CVS-like share for Samba users?
I am looking for some solution, working with Samba preferably, which would allow multiple users to work on one document. This means that if a user makes a change to the document, a previous version of that document is saved somewhere else. For example, user A opens a document (rw - read/write, ro - read-only document): rw \\server\share\document.txt User makes some changes, and saves it to the same place. This SVN/CVS-like share handles the change inteligently, and makes a copy of the previous file to a ro file somewhere else: ro \\server\share\backup\2005.12.22-16:24:04\document.txt Do you have something in mind which would allow me to do something like that *transparently* to the user (assuming the user doesn't know much more about computers than opening Word document etc.)? -- Tomek http://wpkg.org WPKG - software management with Samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
