Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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That hasnt helped either.

Same lag on file modification.

Thanks.


On 01/16/2010 05:46 AM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:20:36PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 Any suggestions?  Anything i can check?  Am i perhaps looking an an NFS
 performance issue?  I'm able to modify files over the nfs mount from the
 smb server without an issue.
 
 No, this is probably not a NFS performance thing, NFS is not
 *that* slow. Next try after kernel oplocks = no would be
 posix locking = no.
 
 Volker

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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 That hasnt helped either.
 
 Same lag on file modification.
 
 Thanks.

Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
responsible for your client and strace it.

strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid

Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.

Volker


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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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Thank's, i'll get on that.  in the meantime.


I've run wireshark during the write process.  Here's what i've come up
with.

When i initiate the write (file-save), i see, from my workstation, to
the smb server and NT Create Andx request path: \test\testfile.txt

Immediately after that, i get a response from the smb server, to my
workstation: microsoft-ds  cognex-insight [ACK] seq=1 Ack=127
Win=36448 Len:0

28 seconds later, i get, from my workstation, to the server: Echo Request

Immdiately after that, i get another microsoft-ds  cognex-insight [ACK]

Then the whole thing seems to start over again, except this time, no 28
second pause, and the write completes.


On 01/20/2010 12:56 PM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 That hasnt helped either.

 Same lag on file modification.

 Thanks.
 
 Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
 responsible for your client and strace it.
 
 strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid
 
 Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.
 
 Volker

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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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OK, Here we go.

http://www.undrground.org/smb/smbd.strace


On 01/20/2010 12:56 PM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 That hasnt helped either.

 Same lag on file modification.

 Thanks.
 
 Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
 responsible for your client and strace it.
 
 strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid
 
 Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.
 
 Volker

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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Jeff Layton
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:36:18 -0500
Nathan Lager lag...@lafayette.edu wrote:

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 OK, Here we go.
 
 http://www.undrground.org/smb/smbd.strace
 
 
 On 01/20/2010 12:56 PM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
  That hasnt helped either.
 
  Same lag on file modification.
 
  Thanks.
  
  Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
  responsible for your client and strace it.
  
  strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid
  
  Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.
  
  Volker
 
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Looks like it's taking forever for flock() calls to time out, and then
it finally fails with -ENOLCK:

13:24:00.268018 flock(28, 0x60 /* LOCK_??? */) = -1 ENOLCK (No locks available) 
30.000971

...often that means that you don't have rpc.statd running on the client.
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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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On 01/20/2010 03:00 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
 ...often that means that you don't have rpc.statd running on the client.


I officially feel like a dolt now.

Thank you for pointing out what should have been painfully obvious.

I started up the nfslock service on my samba server, and the issue is gone.

Thanks!





Here's to public humiliation.  :P
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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-16 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:20:36PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 Any suggestions?  Anything i can check?  Am i perhaps looking an an NFS
 performance issue?  I'm able to modify files over the nfs mount from the
 smb server without an issue.

No, this is probably not a NFS performance thing, NFS is not
*that* slow. Next try after kernel oplocks = no would be
posix locking = no.

Volker


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[Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-15 Thread Nathan Lager
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Afternoon!
I have a samba server, which shares out an NFS mounted share.  It seems
that everything works rather well, except that i get some lag when
modifying a file.  If i share a directory which is local to the samba
server, no lag, everything works perfectly.  However, when i share an
NFS mounted volume, i get about 30 seconds of lag while writing a file
after it's been modified.

In my test, i did the following:
- From Windows xp, browse to \\smbserver\share\
browse to a directory which you have permission to write to.
open an existing file (in my case, a text file, using Notepad).
Add a line to the file.
save the file.

Notepad hangs for about 30 seconds, and then successfully completes its
write.

The only thin special about this windows XP client is that it has the
Novell mobile client installed.  I ran into an issue where windows was
first trying to access my smb server using novell's ncp, but this was
corrected by moving around the provider order in Windows networking.

Any suggestions?  Anything i can check?  Am i perhaps looking an an NFS
performance issue?  I'm able to modify files over the nfs mount from the
smb server without an issue.

Thanks!

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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-15 Thread Gerald Carter
Nathan Lager wrote:
 Afternoon!
 I have a samba server, which shares out an NFS mounted share.  It seems
 that everything works rather well, except that i get some lag when
 modifying a file.  If i share a directory which is local to the samba
 server, no lag, everything works perfectly.  However, when i share an
 NFS mounted volume, i get about 30 seconds of lag while writing a file
 after it's been modified.

Hey Nathan,

A 30 second lag is normally an indication of an oplock
break timeout.  Just an fyi...If you are re-exporting an
nfs mounted volume on linux, try setting kernel oplocks = no
since I don't bnelieve the kernel file lease mechanism is
availble on an NFS mount but I could be wrong on that one.
Just a suggestion.




cheers, jerry




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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-15 Thread Nathan Lager
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This didnt seem to help.

As a side, note, i've also tried it without the Novell client.  This
didnt help either.


Thanks just the same for the response.


On 01/15/2010 03:48 PM, Gerald Carter wrote:
 Nathan Lager wrote:
 Afternoon!
 I have a samba server, which shares out an NFS mounted share.  It seems
 that everything works rather well, except that i get some lag when
 modifying a file.  If i share a directory which is local to the samba
 server, no lag, everything works perfectly.  However, when i share an
 NFS mounted volume, i get about 30 seconds of lag while writing a file
 after it's been modified.
 
 Hey Nathan,
 
 A 30 second lag is normally an indication of an oplock
 break timeout.  Just an fyi...If you are re-exporting an
 nfs mounted volume on linux, try setting kernel oplocks = no
 since I don't bnelieve the kernel file lease mechanism is
 availble on an NFS mount but I could be wrong on that one.
 Just a suggestion.
 
 
 
 
 cheers, jerry
 
 

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