Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Hi, My english is not very good, so french ! I had solve this problem, like this. Vista or 2008 server, search share with the name profiles.V2. If it doesn't existe Vista create in your $PATH/profiles your account $USER.V2, but dont update it ! So I made it happy (vista) with : smb.conf [profiles.V2] copy = profiles So now in $PATH/profiles there is all my profiles for XP, Vista, and vista doesn't cry any more ! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Samba-and-Vista-profile-probs-tp16764249p19612004.html Sent from the Samba - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
See : http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2007-April/052674.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Samba-and-Vista-profile-probs-tp16764249p19612052.html Sent from the Samba - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Yes, if you're using roaming profiles Vista will automatically accept your login (if your PDC is configured correctly, check the firewall on the clients and server also, write/read access to the profile for the current user, but i guess these things were already said here but I'm only replying to your last question without having read most of the rest) The profile is not needed to be recreated, it already exists on the server. If you didn't copy it, copy profile from your vista to your home folder (it's surely better to put it in a separate folder, but OK) without NTuser.dat and ntuser.forgotextension otherwise it won't work! And don't forget to reset the user rights on all te files!! Then do the CompatibleRUPSecurity=dword:0001 fix, but don't do the WaitForNetwork=dword: if there are profiles bigger than a certain size (i don't know the size, but when using thunderbird mailboxes 500 mb, which can happen after a couple of years, Vista will say 'profile not loaded COMPLETELY instead of profile could not be loaded, because it will break the transfer when it's tired of waiting. Without deleleting the old SID (after reinstalling your server, or sometimes when te user is recreated) in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\ you'll get the profile could not be loaded error. This really sucks and just shouldn't be true, but it is. When i transferred to Vista from XP this took me 50! hours (with 6 hours of sleep inbetween) to find it, because it wasn't on google. Vista should have a tool for this in control panel, because much users won't find this without being told. To answer your question, the thing that seems to be changed is the SID, and if it's changed Vista just won't accept your login. You can be really sure you can't login after doing a reinstallation! If you still got questions, ask me, without wanting it I had to become an expert on this subject because I just coulnd't accept the Vista machines would'nt work like the XP machines, but now they do! I'll reply as soon as possible. Andrea Venturoli wrote: Jean-Jacques Moulis ha scritto: Hello. Sorry for answering so late, but I only had the chance to test this today. define those keys on clients: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] WaitForNetwork=dword: CompatibleRUPSecurity=dword:0001 I defined the first, since the second was already there. This did not solve the problem. If you remove %USERPROFILE% (C:\users\john) for an user this user will be subsequently logged in with a temporary profile unless HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\SID of user is also removed. Sorry, but I do not really understand this. Do you mean I should delete the user profile on the client??? (Obviously I should take a backup before, since this is the only copy I have). Then alter the registry to delete its SID? What then? Would Vista generate a new profile where I should restore the afore mentioned backup? Would it be roaming this time? Why? I mean, what has changed since it generated the current one? bye Thanks av. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Samba-and-Vista-profile-probs-tp16764249p17651065.html Sent from the Samba - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Jean-Jacques Moulis ha scritto: Hello. Sorry for answering so late, but I only had the chance to test this today. define those keys on clients: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] WaitForNetwork=dword: CompatibleRUPSecurity=dword:0001 I defined the first, since the second was already there. This did not solve the problem. If you remove %USERPROFILE% (C:\users\john) for an user this user will be subsequently logged in with a temporary profile unless HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\SID of user is also removed. Sorry, but I do not really understand this. Do you mean I should delete the user profile on the client??? (Obviously I should take a backup before, since this is the only copy I have). Then alter the registry to delete its SID? What then? Would Vista generate a new profile where I should restore the afore mentioned backup? Would it be roaming this time? Why? I mean, what has changed since it generated the current one? bye Thanks av. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Well i must say, it looks like the removal of the profile list works. ! but the mentioning of the nt4 policy's not working with vista was a big bummer... isn't there an otherway to make policy's work with vista ?? like adding the SYSVOL share orso ?? or using the policy editor of xp/vista in combination with samba. Thx, Collen ps for the maillist admin: i get a lot of duplicate mail's from the samba list. Jean-Jacques Moulis wrote: CB Hi all, I've got some problems with vista sp1 + samba 3.0.28a CB vista will not save the profiles nor load them. ! CB I'm all familiar with the .V2 thing. CB vista however does create the profilename.V2 directory, but does not CB populate it with the data CB Xp machines work like a charm however. CB profiles path's are: \\server\profiles\testuser CB so the problem with the .V2 part is not share related, coz they are a CB dir in a share. CB we do get logged in with a temp profile. so authentication works (little CB slow do...) CB do i need to alter the vista policy's or something ?? CB if i browse manually to the profile share, i will be able to create dirs CB and files define those keys on clients: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] WaitForNetwork=dword: CompatibleRUPSecurity=dword:0001 If you remove %USERPROFILE% (C:\users\john) for an user this user will be subsequently logged in with a temporary profile unless HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\SID of user is also removed. Unfortunatly Vista doesn't obey Netlogon\NTConfig.pol. you have to apply policies with other methods. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re[2]: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:23:57 +0200 Collen Blijenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CB Well i must say, it looks like the removal CB of the profile list works. ! CB but the mentioning of the nt4 policy's not working with vista CB was a big bummer... CB isn't there an otherway to make policy's work with vista ?? CB like adding the SYSVOL share orso ?? CB or using the policy editor of xp/vista in combination with samba. CB Thx, Collen One solution is to use Wpkg for this. Have a look at: http://wpkg.org/Adding_Registry_Settings Wpkg works well with Vista (if run as SYSTEM) even with UAC enabled. Wpkg intalls and maintains software on clients computers and is IMHO an indispensable companion to a samba domain server. Regards! -- Jean-Jacques Moulis Tel: (013) 281684 ISYFax: (013) 139282 Linköping UniversityE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 581 83 Linköping -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Charles Marcus ha scritto: On 4/18/2008, Andrea Venturoli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have \\PDC\username as home dir and \\PDF\username\profile[.V2] there. Not a good idea... The only problems I see with this is that a user can manually access it. I leave it to them as a responsability: someone even recover their files from there in case they happen to delete them by accident. Sure, sooner or later someone will delete his/her their profile: either it will be recreated or I'll get it back from the backup tapes. MS says you are asking for trouble if you put the profile inside the user home ... I'd also be curious about the rationale behind that... Profiles shoudl be in etheir own, separate share... Probably. However, the whole system has been working this way for eight yeras or so, without the slighest problem... I'd need more than a rumor to convince them to switch... In any case, this is completely irrelevant wrt Vista Profiles, since I and Collen have different setups and still experience the same prolem. bye Thanks av. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
On 4/19/2008, Andrea Venturoli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Charles Marcus ha scritto: On 4/18/2008, Andrea Venturoli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have \\PDC\username as home dir and \\PDF\username\profile[.V2] there. Not a good idea... The only problems I see with this is that a user can manually access it. Well, the way I see it, why give users the power to screw something up if it isn't necessary? If you do, it is only a matter of *when*, not if... I find it strange that you see this as acceptable. If you don't give someone the opportunity/ability to screw something up, then they won't, its that simple. That said, I did this for a number of years too (although I at least made the folder hidden so the user couldn't even see it unless they enabled showing hidden files and folders), and had lots of minor, occasional file corruption in the user profiles that required a chkdsk /f to be run to fix... These problems completely disappeared when I moved the profiles to their own share. At the same time I also redirected the Desktop, Application Data and My Documents folders to their home directory, where prior to that I had manually pointed their My Documents folder to this share. This worked wonderfully to make all of the user profiles extremely small, so now logging in/out is very fast, and have had no file corruption since. This was, however, on a real Windows 2000 Domain Controller though... I have always run Samba with things set up this way since thats how I learned it in the windows world - maybe Samba doesn't have the same problem... Anyway, as I said, it is a free world, and you are free to do things however you like, even if it ends up causing yourself unnecessary grief. -- Best regards, Charles -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Hi all, I've got some problems with vista sp1 + samba 3.0.28a vista will not save the profiles nor load them. ! I'm all familiar with the .V2 thing. vista however does create the profilename.V2 directory, but does not populate it with the data Xp machines work like a charm however. profiles path's are: \\server\profiles\testuser so the problem with the .V2 part is not share related, coz they are a dir in a share. we do get logged in with a temp profile. so authentication works (little slow do...) do i need to alter the vista policy's or something ?? if i browse manually to the profile share, i will be able to create dirs and files - smb.conf [profiles] path = /Jordanet/profiles guest ok = yes browseable = no nt acl support = yes csc policy = disable read only =no #create mode = 0600 #directory mode = 0700 #profile acls = yes #writable = yes #inherit permissions = no #inherit acls = no #nt acl support = no #map acl inherit = No -- Cheers, Collen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
CB Hi all, I've got some problems with vista sp1 + samba 3.0.28a CB vista will not save the profiles nor load them. ! CB I'm all familiar with the .V2 thing. CB vista however does create the profilename.V2 directory, but does not CB populate it with the data CB Xp machines work like a charm however. CB profiles path's are: \\server\profiles\testuser CB so the problem with the .V2 part is not share related, coz they are a CB dir in a share. CB we do get logged in with a temp profile. so authentication works (little CB slow do...) CB do i need to alter the vista policy's or something ?? CB if i browse manually to the profile share, i will be able to create dirs CB and files define those keys on clients: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] WaitForNetwork=dword: CompatibleRUPSecurity=dword:0001 If you remove %USERPROFILE% (C:\users\john) for an user this user will be subsequently logged in with a temporary profile unless HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\SID of user is also removed. Unfortunatly Vista doesn't obey Netlogon\NTConfig.pol. you have to apply policies with other methods. -- Jean-Jacques Moulis Tel: (013) 281684 ISYFax: (013) 139282 Linköping UniversityE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 581 83 Linköping -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Collen Blijenberg ha scritto: Hi all, I've got some problems with vista sp1 + samba 3.0.28a vista will not save the profiles nor load them. ! I'm all familiar with the .V2 thing. vista however does create the profilename.V2 directory, but does not populate it with the data Hi. I'm having the same problem and I reported it to the list a while ago, but the only answers I got were like it works for us, it should for you. (N.B. this is no flame). I though I was having some specific situation, since I was the only one who seemed to experience this; perhaps we could compare our setups and hope we can find something common which might be relevant. Xp machines work like a charm however. profiles path's are: \\server\profiles\testuser I have \\PDC\username as home dir and \\PDF\username\profile[.V2] there. so the problem with the .V2 part is not share related, coz they are a dir in a share. Same here. Vista creates the profile.v2 directory and permissions seem fine. we do get logged in with a temp profile. so authentication works (little slow do...) Auhtentication is not an issue here, since the user can access every share he should. do i need to alter the vista policy's or something ?? I tried every trick Google and the samba mailing lists could provide, but still no luck. I have: _ FreeBSD 6.2/i386 + samba 3.0.28,1 PDC; _ FreeBSD 6.3/amd64 + samba 3.0.28,1 BDC; _ replicated OpenLDAP backend; _ profiles in home dirs on PDC; _ more than 30 2000/XP professional machines running perfectly; _ 1 Vista Business laptop which refuse to roam profiles. Here's my PDC's smb.conf: [global] debug level = 1 passwd program=/usr/bin/passwd %u unix password sync=false workgroup = server string = x hosts allow = 192.168.xxx. 127. load printers = no max log size = 5000 security = user encrypt passwords = yes socket options = TCP_NODELAY interfaces = fxp0 192.168.xxx.1/24 local master = yes os level = 255 domain master = yes preferred master = yes domain logons = yes logon script=netlogon.cmd wins support = yes wins proxy = yes dns proxy = yes ldap admin dn=xx ldap ssl=off ldap suffix=x passdb backend=ldapsam_compat host msdfs = no [homes] writeable = yes follow symlinks=no browseable=no msdfs root = no [netlogon] path = /usr/local/etc/netlogon browseable=no follow symlinks=no ... bye Thanks av. P.S. netlogon scripts works too. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
On 4/18/2008, Andrea Venturoli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have \\PDC\username as home dir and \\PDF\username\profile[.V2] there. Not a good idea... MS says you are asking for trouble if you put the profile inside the user home ... Profiles shoudl be in etheir own, separate share... -- Best regards, Charles -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Not a good idea... MS says you are asking for trouble if you put the profile inside the user home ... I have seen that however we have had it that way with samba for at least 6 years without a single problem. John -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
On 4/18/2008 5:12 PM, John Drescher wrote: Not a good idea... MS says you are asking for trouble if you put the profile inside the user home ... I have seen that however we have had it that way with samba for at least 6 years without a single problem. Hopefully you're knocking on wood right now... The way I see it, no sense in living dangerously... its not like its hard to use a separate share... But its a free world, no? :) -- Best regards, Charles -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba and Vista profile probs
Hopefully you're knocking on wood right now... No. I am not at all worried. John -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
