Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-11-14 Thread Michael Heydon 

It sounds like you want a trust relationship.

If you have DomainA and DomainB and a two way trust between them then 
users from DomainA can log on to computers in DomainB and vice versa. If 
you had something like ADMT you could do your migration in one shot 
quite quickly, that way you wouldn't have to worry so much about legacy 
users, etc.


Does anyone know if ADMT can migrate to Samba? I know it can migrate 
from NT4 so I suspect from Samba should be ok. I'm not so sure about 
going to it though.


Either way, a trust is a prerequisite for using ADMT.


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Fajar Priyanto wrote:

Dear all,
I have 2 domains: JUPITER.COM (Samba 3.0.23c - Centos5) and WIN.COM (Windows 
2000 Adv Srv). I join a windows XP SP1 (MOON), first to Windows domain and 
then to Samba's.


The problem is when I join the XP to Samba's and then try to logon to WIN.COM, 
the XP is instead logon to Samba, thus the username is not found. The DNS is 
not a problem, I set the DNS of the XP to Windows' DNS.


Here's what the Samba log says:
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_special(496) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   netbios connect: name1=CENTOS5 
name2=MOON
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_special(503) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   netbios connect: local=centos5 
remote=moon, name type = 0 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/sesssetup.c:setup_new_vc_session(799) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   setup_new_vc_session: New VC == 0, if 
NT4.x compatible we would close all old resources. 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/sesssetup.c:setup_new_vc_session(799) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   setup_new_vc_session: New VC == 0, if 
NT4.x compatible we would close all old resources. 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
lib/smbldap.c:smbldap_open_connection(788) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   smbldap_open_connection: connection 
opened 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_tcon_and_X(711) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   Serving IPC$ as a Dfs root 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 0] 
auth/auth_util.c:smb_create_user(55) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   smb_create_user: Running the command 
`/usr/sbin/useradd test2' gave 126 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 0] 
libsmb/samlogon_cache.c:netsamlogon_cache_store(124) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   netsamlogon_cache_store: cannot open 
netsamlogon_cache.tdb for write! 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 2] 
auth/auth.c:check_ntlm_password(319) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   check_ntlm_password:  Authentication for 
user [test2] -> [test2] FAILED with error NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_tcon_and_X(711) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   Serving IPC$ as a Dfs root 


Why does Samba still handle the logon request?
One more info, if I then join the XP back to Windows' and then try to logon 
both to Samba and Windows, the logon process is OK.


Any insight and comments are very welcome.
  

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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
On Monday 22 October 2007 14:19:21 simo wrote:
>
> Btw, usually it is better to avoid dots in netbios domain names ...

Oww.. I'll correct that.
Is there any particular reason?
Thanks Simo.
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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-22 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
On Monday 22 October 2007 14:12:13 Michael Heydon wrote:
>  From another message:
> > But still confusing why if we join the XP to WIN domain, we can select in
> > the logon screen to logon to JUPITER.COM domain (samba).
>
> Is this after the trust is setup? if so, that is normal behavior. That
> is how you tell it which domain the user is part of. Are you still
> having trouble logging onto the trusted domain with this setup?

Yes, that is after the interdomain trust is set.
We don't have any trouble logon to JUPITER.COM and then accessing resource in 
WIN.COM. However we need to setup the same user in that domain.

I try to setup winbind in Samba, but since I'm using Zimbra, I still haven't 
been able to make winbind works. I guess this is for another thread :)

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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-22 Thread simo 

On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 11:36 +0700, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Monday 22 October 2007 11:24:47 herman wrote:
> >
> > In Win XP, you can log into any one of a list of domains.  However, you
> > cannot be logged into more than one at a time.
> 
> Hello Herman,
> Thanks for the reply. No, I don't want to logon to more than one domain at a 
> time. 
> 
> The reason why we need this is because we're in the migration process. There 
> is already a w2k domain (WIN) and then we setup a samba domain (Jupiter.com). 
> We migrate the users little by little by joining them to Jupiter.com. 
> However, there is a requirement when the management want they would still 
> able to logon back to WIN. This is when the error occurs.

Btw, usually it is better to avoid dots in netbios domain names ...

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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-22 Thread simo 

On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 11:19 +0700, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Monday 22 October 2007 08:31:46 Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I have 2 domains: JUPITER.COM (Samba 3.0.23c - Centos5) and WIN.COM
> > (Windows 2000 Adv Srv). I join a windows XP SP1 (MOON), first to Windows
> > domain and then to Samba's.
> >
> > The problem is when I join the XP to Samba's and then try to logon to
> > WIN.COM, the XP is instead logon to Samba, thus the username is not found.
> > The DNS is not a problem, I set the DNS of the XP to Windows' DNS.
> 
> > Why does Samba still handle the logon request?
> > One more info, if I then join the XP back to Windows' and then try to logon
> > both to Samba and Windows, the logon process is OK.
> >
> > Any insight and comments are very welcome.
> 
> From google I found this:
> http://www.5starsupport.com/xp-faq/1-102.htm
> 
> Problem:
> 
> In Windows XP Pro, is it possible to have multiple domains to login to? 
> Currently, I only have a single domain option. I would like be able to choose 
> from a list of domains when I login.
> 
> Answer:
> 
> In one word, no. A computer can only be part of a single domain. However, 
> multiple users from other trusted domains may have permissions to access 
> certain domains while still being logged in to their own domain. This is all 
> part of an Active Directory process.
> 
> Is that true?

The correct answer is:

No, a windows machine can be part of only one domain, to be able to
login using credentials from multiple domains, the domain the machine is
joined to need to trust the other domains. This is not limited to AD,
domain trusts exist since windows NT domains.

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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-22 Thread Michael Heydon 

Fajar Priyanto wrote:

Hello Michael,
Yes. I have setup inter-domain trust between the samba and w2k. So, with 
interdomain trust working, it makes changing domain membership in wxp becomes 
unnecessary, right?


I'm sure there are situations where a trust wouldn't be appropriate, but 
from the brief description you have given I think it should be enough.


Obviously you will need to migrate your workstations to the new domain 
before shutting down the old one, but a trust should be all you need to 
let users log into the old system during the move.


From another message:

But still confusing why if we join the XP to WIN domain, we can select in the 
logon screen to logon to JUPITER.COM domain (samba).
Is this after the trust is setup? if so, that is normal behavior. That 
is how you tell it which domain the user is part of. Are you still 
having trouble logging onto the trusted domain with this setup?


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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
On Monday 22 October 2007 12:01:48 herman wrote:
>
> You can force WinXP to leave the Samba domain and join another using the
> 'netdom' command.
>
> The syntax of this command is:
>
> NETDOM JOIN machine /Domain:domain [/OU:ou path][/UserD:user]
> [/PasswordD:[password | *]]
> [UserO:user] [/PasswordO:[password | *]]
> [/REBoot[:Time in seconds]]

Ok Herman,
So, I guess the conclusion is:
1. Winxp cannot be a member of multiple domain at a time.
2. We need to join-rejoin Winxp everytime we want to logon to a different 
domain.
3. The above procedure is rather unnecessary if we have setup interdomain 
trust.

But still confusing why if we join the XP to WIN domain, we can select in the 
logon screen to logon to JUPITER.COM domain (samba).
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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
On Monday 22 October 2007 12:35:23 Michael Heydon wrote:
> It sounds like you want a trust relationship.
>
> If you have DomainA and DomainB and a two way trust between them then
> users from DomainA can log on to computers in DomainB and vice versa. If
> you had something like ADMT you could do your migration in one shot
> quite quickly, that way you wouldn't have to worry so much about legacy
> users, etc.
>
> Does anyone know if ADMT can migrate to Samba? I know it can migrate
> from NT4 so I suspect from Samba should be ok. I'm not so sure about
> going to it though.
>
> Either way, a trust is a prerequisite for using ADMT.

Hello Michael,
Yes. I have setup inter-domain trust between the samba and w2k. So, with 
interdomain trust working, it makes changing domain membership in wxp becomes 
unnecessary, right?
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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread herman 

Fajar Priyanto wrote:

On Monday 22 October 2007 11:24:47 herman wrote:
  

In Win XP, you can log into any one of a list of domains.  However, you
cannot be logged into more than one at a time.



Hello Herman,
Thanks for the reply. No, I don't want to logon to more than one domain at a 
time. 

The reason why we need this is because we're in the migration process. There 
is already a w2k domain (WIN) and then we setup a samba domain (Jupiter.com). 
We migrate the users little by little by joining them to Jupiter.com. 
However, there is a requirement when the management want they would still 
able to logon back to WIN. This is when the error occurs.


Here's the screenshot.

  
You can force WinXP to leave the Samba domain and join another using the 
'netdom' command.


The syntax of this command is:

NETDOM JOIN machine /Domain:domain [/OU:ou path][/UserD:user]
   [/PasswordD:[password | *]]
   [UserO:user] [/PasswordO:[password | *]]
   [/REBoot[:Time in seconds]]

NETDOM JOIN Joins a workstation or member server to the domain.

machine is the name of the workstation or member server to be joined

/Domain  Specifies the domain which the machine should join. You
   can specify a particular domain controller by entering
   /Domain:domain\dc. If you specify a domain controller, you
   must also include the user's domain. For
   example: /UserD:domain\user

/UserD  User account used to make the connection with the domain
   specified by the /Domain argument

/PasswordD  Password of the user account specified by /UserD.  A * means
   to prompt for the password

/UserO  User account used to make the connection with the machine to
   be joined

/PasswordO  Password of the user account specified by /UserO.  A * means
   to prompt for the password

/OU  Organizational unit under which to create the machine account.
   This must be a fully qualified RFC 1779 DN for the OU.
   If not specified, the account will be created under the 
default

   organization unit for machine objects for that domain.

/REBoot  Specifies that the machine should be shutdown and automatically
   rebooted after the Join has completed.  The number of 
seconds

   before automatic shutdown can also be provided.  Default is
   30 seconds

Windows Professional machines with the ForceGuest setting enabled (which 
is the

default for machines not joined to a domain during setup) cannot be remotely
administered. Thus the join operation must be run directly on the machine
when the ForceGuest setting is enabled.

When joining a machine running Windows NT version 4 or before to the domain
the operation is not transacted.  Thus, a failure during the operation could
leave the machine in an undetermined state with respect to the domain it is
joined to.

The act of joining a machine to the domain will create an account for the
machine on the domain if it does not already exist.

NETDOM HELP command | MORE displays Help one screen at a time.
The command completed successfully.

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We need to join-rejoin everytime we want to logon to another domain? wasRe: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
On Monday 22 October 2007 11:36:49 Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Monday 22 October 2007 11:24:47 herman wrote:
> > In Win XP, you can log into any one of a list of domains.  However, you
> > cannot be logged into more than one at a time.
>
> Hello Herman,
> Thanks for the reply. No, I don't want to logon to more than one domain at
> a time.
>
> The reason why we need this is because we're in the migration process.
> There is already a w2k domain (WIN) and then we setup a samba domain
> (Jupiter.com). We migrate the users little by little by joining them to
> Jupiter.com. However, there is a requirement when the management want they
> would still able to logon back to WIN. This is when the error occurs.
>
> Here's the screenshot.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=47&threadID=197196&messageID=2061481
Says this:
configuring windows xp client to access two distinct domains
Question  -  Post 4 of 4 
I had this challenge earlier this year. I have...
I had this challenge earlier this year. I have a domain at home, and I use 
my laptop at work, where I manage another domain.

Simple solution? Not really. But I can still access everything I need to 
access at work on my laptop because I am the administrator and have full 
access to set security rights on anything.

For e-mail, on our exchange server, I've enabled IMAP and I just connect 
Outlook that way, if that's one of your challenges.

The only way I was able to connect to the domains was to actually join 
each domain every day, which is a complete pain in the ass. No thanks!


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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
On Monday 22 October 2007 11:24:47 herman wrote:
>
> In Win XP, you can log into any one of a list of domains.  However, you
> cannot be logged into more than one at a time.

Hello Herman,
Thanks for the reply. No, I don't want to logon to more than one domain at a 
time. 

The reason why we need this is because we're in the migration process. There 
is already a w2k domain (WIN) and then we setup a samba domain (Jupiter.com). 
We migrate the users little by little by joining them to Jupiter.com. 
However, there is a requirement when the management want they would still 
able to logon back to WIN. This is when the error occurs.

Here's the screenshot.

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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread herman 

Fajar Priyanto wrote:

On Monday 22 October 2007 08:31:46 Fajar Priyanto wrote:
  

Dear all,
I have 2 domains: JUPITER.COM (Samba 3.0.23c - Centos5) and WIN.COM
(Windows 2000 Adv Srv). I join a windows XP SP1 (MOON), first to Windows
domain and then to Samba's.

The problem is when I join the XP to Samba's and then try to logon to
WIN.COM, the XP is instead logon to Samba, thus the username is not found.
The DNS is not a problem, I set the DNS of the XP to Windows' DNS.



  

Why does Samba still handle the logon request?
One more info, if I then join the XP back to Windows' and then try to logon
both to Samba and Windows, the logon process is OK.

Any insight and comments are very welcome.



From google I found this:
http://www.5starsupport.com/xp-faq/1-102.htm

Problem:

In Windows XP Pro, is it possible to have multiple domains to login to? 
Currently, I only have a single domain option. I would like be able to choose 
from a list of domains when I login.


Answer:

In one word, no. A computer can only be part of a single domain. However, 
multiple users from other trusted domains may have permissions to access 
certain domains while still being logged in to their own domain. This is all 
part of an Active Directory process.


Is that true?

  
In Win XP, you can log into any one of a list of domains.  However, you 
cannot be logged into more than one at a time.


Cheers,

H.
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Re: [Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
On Monday 22 October 2007 08:31:46 Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have 2 domains: JUPITER.COM (Samba 3.0.23c - Centos5) and WIN.COM
> (Windows 2000 Adv Srv). I join a windows XP SP1 (MOON), first to Windows
> domain and then to Samba's.
>
> The problem is when I join the XP to Samba's and then try to logon to
> WIN.COM, the XP is instead logon to Samba, thus the username is not found.
> The DNS is not a problem, I set the DNS of the XP to Windows' DNS.

> Why does Samba still handle the logon request?
> One more info, if I then join the XP back to Windows' and then try to logon
> both to Samba and Windows, the logon process is OK.
>
> Any insight and comments are very welcome.

From google I found this:
http://www.5starsupport.com/xp-faq/1-102.htm

Problem:

In Windows XP Pro, is it possible to have multiple domains to login to? 
Currently, I only have a single domain option. I would like be able to choose 
from a list of domains when I login.

Answer:

In one word, no. A computer can only be part of a single domain. However, 
multiple users from other trusted domains may have permissions to access 
certain domains while still being logged in to their own domain. This is all 
part of an Active Directory process.

Is that true?

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[Samba] Samba "hijack" the connection?

2007-10-21 Thread Fajar Priyanto 
Dear all,
I have 2 domains: JUPITER.COM (Samba 3.0.23c - Centos5) and WIN.COM (Windows 
2000 Adv Srv). I join a windows XP SP1 (MOON), first to Windows domain and 
then to Samba's.

The problem is when I join the XP to Samba's and then try to logon to WIN.COM, 
the XP is instead logon to Samba, thus the username is not found. The DNS is 
not a problem, I set the DNS of the XP to Windows' DNS.

Here's what the Samba log says:
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_special(496) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   netbios connect: name1=CENTOS5 
name2=MOON
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_special(503) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   netbios connect: local=centos5 
remote=moon, name type = 0 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/sesssetup.c:setup_new_vc_session(799) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   setup_new_vc_session: New VC == 0, if 
NT4.x compatible we would close all old resources. 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/sesssetup.c:setup_new_vc_session(799) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   setup_new_vc_session: New VC == 0, if 
NT4.x compatible we would close all old resources. 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
lib/smbldap.c:smbldap_open_connection(788) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   smbldap_open_connection: connection 
opened 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:06, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_tcon_and_X(711) 
Oct 21 15:36:06 centos5 smbd[7680]:   Serving IPC$ as a Dfs root 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 0] 
auth/auth_util.c:smb_create_user(55) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   smb_create_user: Running the command 
`/usr/sbin/useradd test2' gave 126 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 0] 
libsmb/samlogon_cache.c:netsamlogon_cache_store(124) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   netsamlogon_cache_store: cannot open 
netsamlogon_cache.tdb for write! 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 2] 
auth/auth.c:check_ntlm_password(319) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   check_ntlm_password:  Authentication for 
user [test2] -> [test2] FAILED with error NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]: [2007/10/21 15:36:07, 2] 
smbd/reply.c:reply_tcon_and_X(711) 
Oct 21 15:36:07 centos5 smbd[7680]:   Serving IPC$ as a Dfs root 

Why does Samba still handle the logon request?
One more info, if I then join the XP back to Windows' and then try to logon 
both to Samba and Windows, the logon process is OK.

Any insight and comments are very welcome.
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