RE: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase
We might not have been clear in our question. I will try to explain what we are trying to do. We have a SAMBA Server (Solaris) utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication. The Samba server serves PCs for authentication and it serves Samba filesystem shares. We want to be able to create a second samba server (Solaris) that can be a member of the domain and also serves shares to PCs and only serves shares to PC. The second SAMBA server does not need to be responsible for PC logging / Authentication. Is that possible and have can I make that second UNIX server a member of the domain? Thanks Raymond Kdeiss -Original Message- From: Gary Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:20 PM To: Hoferer, Patrick K. Cc: samba@lists.samba.org; Bailey, Alonza; Kdeiss, Raymond E. Subject: Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase Hoferer, Patrick K. wrote: I have a SAMBA Server utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication and it works great unless I use ClearCase. When ClearCase is used the compilation time for our code is slowed down to a crawl and the ClearCase application is rendered nearly useless. As a test fix my boss wants me to create a second SAMBA server to be used for only the ClearCase server. I don't know if this will work, but I may be able to accomplish my task if I set the os level lower than my primary SAMBA server set the SID to the same as my existing server. I then change the netbios alias to clearcase. I'll then add my views and vobs through either NFS or SANS client to the ClearCase SAMBA server. This way if a workstation using ClearCase needs to use the \\clearcase\views share it will utilize the ClearCase SAMBA server not the primary server. All authentication should remain through my LDAP server since I did not change the SIDs for my server or user accounts. If this plan sound feasible please let me know. If it sounds like I may break my existing architecture let me know. If you have better suggestions I am looking for any help. Thank you for your time, Patrick Hoferer I don't think you're being very clear. In Windows terms, you log into a domain, not a server. It sounds like you want to maintain the same authentication but split an application off onto a different server to improve performance. However, it's not clear if you want to use Samba or NFS to share the files. I'm going to assume that the new server will be providing file services through Samba. If you want the ClearCase server to use the same authentication, just make it a member server in your existing domain. Stop the ClearCase Samba shares on the old server and start them on the new one. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase
That sounds like a fairly typical use of Samba. The easiest way to do this is to use the SWAT wizard to make the server a member server. Being a member server means that domain authentication is handled by a domain controller, not by the member server. Kdeiss, Raymond E. wrote: We might not have been clear in our question. I will try to explain what we are trying to do. We have a SAMBA Server (Solaris) utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication. The Samba server serves PCs for authentication and it serves Samba filesystem shares. We want to be able to create a second samba server (Solaris) that can be a member of the domain and also serves shares to PCs and only serves shares to PC. The second SAMBA server does not need to be responsible for PC logging / Authentication. Is that possible and have can I make that second UNIX server a member of the domain? Thanks Raymond Kdeiss -Original Message- From: Gary Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:20 PM To: Hoferer, Patrick K. Cc: samba@lists.samba.org; Bailey, Alonza; Kdeiss, Raymond E. Subject: Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase Hoferer, Patrick K. wrote: I have a SAMBA Server utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication and it works great unless I use ClearCase. When ClearCase is used the compilation time for our code is slowed down to a crawl and the ClearCase application is rendered nearly useless. As a test fix my boss wants me to create a second SAMBA server to be used for only the ClearCase server. I don't know if this will work, but I may be able to accomplish my task if I set the os level lower than my primary SAMBA server set the SID to the same as my existing server. I then change the netbios alias to clearcase. I'll then add my views and vobs through either NFS or SANS client to the ClearCase SAMBA server. This way if a workstation using ClearCase needs to use the \\clearcase\views share it will utilize the ClearCase SAMBA server not the primary server. All authentication should remain through my LDAP server since I did not change the SIDs for my server or user accounts. If this plan sound feasible please let me know. If it sounds like I may break my existing architecture let me know. If you have better suggestions I am looking for any help. Thank you for your time, Patrick Hoferer I don't think you're being very clear. In Windows terms, you log into a domain, not a server. It sounds like you want to maintain the same authentication but split an application off onto a different server to improve performance. However, it's not clear if you want to use Samba or NFS to share the files. I'm going to assume that the new server will be providing file services through Samba. If you want the ClearCase server to use the same authentication, just make it a member server in your existing domain. Stop the ClearCase Samba shares on the old server and start them on the new one. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:51:10AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: Gary == Gary Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gary That sounds like a fairly typical use of Samba. The easiest Gary way to do this is to use the SWAT wizard to make the server Gary a member server. Being a member server means that domain Gary authentication is handled by a domain controller, not by the Gary member server. I doubt that Raymond/Patrick will be successful in speeding up ClearCase builds. I've had extensive experience with Samba and Clearcase. Are you serving VOBs or VIEWs via Samba? VOBs shouldn't be an issue although LDAP authentication might be a problem. We usually pass the authentication to the domain controller (security = DOMAIN) If you are serving dynamic VIEWs, forget it. Builds will always be extremely slow. I've seen this problem with SAMBA and NAS using CIFS. You are better off using local storage or accepting the slowness. Gary Kdeiss, Raymond E. wrote: We might not have been clear in our question. I will try to explain what we are trying to do. We have a SAMBA Server (Solaris) utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication. The Samba server serves PCs for authentication and it serves Samba filesystem shares. We want to be able to create a second samba server (Solaris) that can be a member of the domain and also serves shares to PCs and only serves shares to PC. The second SAMBA server does not need to be responsible for PC logging / Authentication. Is that possible and have can I make that second UNIX server a member of the domain? Thanks Raymond Kdeiss -Original Message- From: Gary Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:20 PM To: Hoferer, Patrick K. Cc: samba@lists.samba.org; Bailey, Alonza; Kdeiss, Raymond E. Subject: Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase Hoferer, Patrick K. wrote: I have a SAMBA Server utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication and it works great unless I use ClearCase. When ClearCase is used the compilation time for our code is slowed down to a crawl and the ClearCase application is rendered nearly useless. As a test fix my boss wants me to create a second SAMBA server to be used for only the ClearCase server. I don't know if this will work, but I may be able to accomplish my task if I set the os level lower than my primary SAMBA server set the SID to the same as my existing server. I then change the netbios alias to clearcase. I'll then add my views and vobs through either NFS or SANS client to the ClearCase SAMBA server. This way if a workstation using ClearCase needs to use the \\clearcase\views share it will utilize the ClearCase SAMBA server not the primary server. All authentication should remain through my LDAP server since I did not change the SIDs for my server or user accounts. If this plan sound feasible please let me know. If it sounds like I may break my existing architecture let me know. If you have better suggestions I am looking for any help. Thank you for your time, Patrick Hoferer I don't think you're being very clear. In Windows terms, you log into a domain, not a server. It sounds like you want to maintain the same authentication but split an application off onto a different server to improve performance. However, it's not clear if you want to use Samba or NFS to share the files. I'm going to assume that the new server will be providing file services through Samba. If you want the ClearCase server to use the same authentication, just make it a member server in your existing domain. Stop the ClearCase Samba shares on the old server and start them on the new one. Gary -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and Gary read the instructions: Gary https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- Eric M. Boehm /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / No HTML or RTF in mail X No proprietary word-processing Respect Open Standards / \ files in mail -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase
I have a SAMBA Server utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication and it works great unless I use ClearCase. When ClearCase is used the compilation time for our code is slowed down to a crawl and the ClearCase application is rendered nearly useless. As a test fix my boss wants me to create a second SAMBA server to be used for only the ClearCase server. I don't know if this will work, but I may be able to accomplish my task if I set the os level lower than my primary SAMBA server set the SID to the same as my existing server. I then change the netbios alias to clearcase. I'll then add my views and vobs through either NFS or SANS client to the ClearCase SAMBA server. This way if a workstation using ClearCase needs to use the \\clearcase\views share it will utilize the ClearCase SAMBA server not the primary server. All authentication should remain through my LDAP server since I did not change the SIDs for my server or user accounts. If this plan sound feasible please let me know. If it sounds like I may break my existing architecture let me know. If you have better suggestions I am looking for any help. Thank you for your time, Patrick Hoferer -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase
Hoferer, Patrick K. wrote: I have a SAMBA Server utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication and it works great unless I use ClearCase. When ClearCase is used the compilation time for our code is slowed down to a crawl and the ClearCase application is rendered nearly useless. As a test fix my boss wants me to create a second SAMBA server to be used for only the ClearCase server. I don't know if this will work, but I may be able to accomplish my task if I set the os level lower than my primary SAMBA server set the SID to the same as my existing server. I then change the netbios alias to clearcase. I'll then add my views and vobs through either NFS or SANS client to the ClearCase SAMBA server. This way if a workstation using ClearCase needs to use the \\clearcase\views share it will utilize the ClearCase SAMBA server not the primary server. All authentication should remain through my LDAP server since I did not change the SIDs for my server or user accounts. If this plan sound feasible please let me know. If it sounds like I may break my existing architecture let me know. If you have better suggestions I am looking for any help. Thank you for your time, Patrick Hoferer I don't think you're being very clear. In Windows terms, you log into a domain, not a server. It sounds like you want to maintain the same authentication but split an application off onto a different server to improve performance. However, it's not clear if you want to use Samba or NFS to share the files. I'm going to assume that the new server will be providing file services through Samba. If you want the ClearCase server to use the same authentication, just make it a member server in your existing domain. Stop the ClearCase Samba shares on the old server and start them on the new one. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase
You're totally right about my poor terminology. I need to do is join the CC SAMBA server to the Primary SAMBA Server's authentication. I have the HowTo Guide and it has a step by step on joining as a Domain Member Server. I'll test it out. ...RTM...Pat. Thank you for your help. :) -Original Message- From: Gary Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:20 PM To: Hoferer, Patrick K. Cc: samba@lists.samba.org; Bailey, Alonza; Kdeiss, Raymond E. Subject: Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase Hoferer, Patrick K. wrote: I have a SAMBA Server utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication and it works great unless I use ClearCase. When ClearCase is used the compilation time for our code is slowed down to a crawl and the ClearCase application is rendered nearly useless. As a test fix my boss wants me to create a second SAMBA server to be used for only the ClearCase server. I don't know if this will work, but I may be able to accomplish my task if I set the os level lower than my primary SAMBA server set the SID to the same as my existing server. I then change the netbios alias to clearcase. I'll then add my views and vobs through either NFS or SANS client to the ClearCase SAMBA server. This way if a workstation using ClearCase needs to use the \\clearcase\views share it will utilize the ClearCase SAMBA server not the primary server. All authentication should remain through my LDAP server since I did not change the SIDs for my server or user accounts. If this plan sound feasible please let me know. If it sounds like I may break my existing architecture let me know. If you have better suggestions I am looking for any help. Thank you for your time, Patrick Hoferer I don't think you're being very clear. In Windows terms, you log into a domain, not a server. It sounds like you want to maintain the same authentication but split an application off onto a different server to improve performance. However, it's not clear if you want to use Samba or NFS to share the files. I'm going to assume that the new server will be providing file services through Samba. If you want the ClearCase server to use the same authentication, just make it a member server in your existing domain. Stop the ClearCase Samba shares on the old server and start them on the new one. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase
You can also try SWAT. It has a wizard for this purpose. Hoferer, Patrick K. wrote: You're totally right about my poor terminology. I need to do is join the CC SAMBA server to the Primary SAMBA Server's authentication. I have the HowTo Guide and it has a step by step on joining as a Domain Member Server. I'll test it out. ...RTM...Pat. Thank you for your help. :) -Original Message- From: Gary Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:20 PM To: Hoferer, Patrick K. Cc: samba@lists.samba.org; Bailey, Alonza; Kdeiss, Raymond E. Subject: Re: [Samba] Second SAMBA Server different NETBIOS alias and shares for ClearCase Hoferer, Patrick K. wrote: I have a SAMBA Server utilizing an LDAP backend for user authentication and it works great unless I use ClearCase. When ClearCase is used the compilation time for our code is slowed down to a crawl and the ClearCase application is rendered nearly useless. As a test fix my boss wants me to create a second SAMBA server to be used for only the ClearCase server. I don't know if this will work, but I may be able to accomplish my task if I set the os level lower than my primary SAMBA server set the SID to the same as my existing server. I then change the netbios alias to clearcase. I'll then add my views and vobs through either NFS or SANS client to the ClearCase SAMBA server. This way if a workstation using ClearCase needs to use the \\clearcase\views share it will utilize the ClearCase SAMBA server not the primary server. All authentication should remain through my LDAP server since I did not change the SIDs for my server or user accounts. If this plan sound feasible please let me know. If it sounds like I may break my existing architecture let me know. If you have better suggestions I am looking for any help. Thank you for your time, Patrick Hoferer I don't think you're being very clear. In Windows terms, you log into a domain, not a server. It sounds like you want to maintain the same authentication but split an application off onto a different server to improve performance. However, it's not clear if you want to use Samba or NFS to share the files. I'm going to assume that the new server will be providing file services through Samba. If you want the ClearCase server to use the same authentication, just make it a member server in your existing domain. Stop the ClearCase Samba shares on the old server and start them on the new one. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
