Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 13:08, Paul Gienger wrote: > >doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming -- > > it > > That would actually be a very *dumb* thing to do. Actually I verified that this does in fact happen. When I first tried doing this, I had not created the directory on the server where the profile would be stored (I had created /data/profiles but not /data/profiles/mytestuser). Windows XP freaked out and said it couldn't make a roaming profile and proceeded to make a local profile based on "Default User." Now here is where I got really confused and didn't understand what the problem was. I jumped through all kinds of hoops getting it to copy the local profile onto the server, etc. It never worked, even with the File and Settings Wizard. Finally, I got frustrated. I deleted both the user's profile on the server, and the user's local profile that had been created based on Default User. I left the user's original non-domain profile. Then I logged in as the user to the domain, and damn if it didn't copy the user's profile straight to the server just like I had expected it to do in the first place. The moral of the story is that Windows seems to assume you are the same user if you are logging into the local system only, or to the domain. I have no idea what the behavior would be if you had _only_ a domain account and not a local machine account. Misty -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
You could try this: on the local computer add an account, right click "my computer" > manage > Local Users and Groups > rclick > add user. Put your domain in and the user name (the user must be a domain user already) Make them a power user. Log off, log on as new user to domain, log off (this will make a section for them under docs and settings. Log on as domain admin. Right click my computer > properties > advanced > User Profiles : Settings. Select the old account (it will be in the format user/localmachinename) Click "Copy To" Go to the documents and settings dir (usually C:) and select the new domain users dir you just made by logging on as her. Select this dir Click "Permitted to use: change" Select the DOMAIN user, ie DOMAIN\User Press OK, account is copied exactly, log off Log on to domain as new user, log off (this copies the files to the roaming location) This has always worked for me, the only thing that sometimes does not work is that their desktop background changes. I normally just tell them to sod off if they complain, but you can get it back (it is still selected in the display properties, just browse for the file again and apply) Hope that helps, H Misty Stanley-Jones wrote: On Thursday 30 September 2004 02:58, deff wrote: You had your answers right in front of ya. Every xp includes "Files and Settings transfer wizard" (accessories->system tools) for this job. It's simple : I had high hopes for this. I went and did it this afternoon. First I tried copying only the settings. I put them in a folder on her hard drive, made that folder fully controllable by SAMBADOMAIN/heruser as well as LOCALCOMPUTER/heruser. Logged into the Samba domain, imported her settings, and logged off. Logged back in and it SAID it had transferred her settings. But it had not! I don't understand why, So right now I am doing it again, having chosen both files AND settings. This doesn't seem right as it is copying every file off her entire computer. However I will try it and see. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. :/ Misty 1. login as local user, run wizard, select old computer, select some directory to store your data, click next, wait till its done, logoff. 2. login as new user, run wizard, select new computer, find directory you stored your data to, click next, wait till its done, relogon. You're done. Migrated some 20 pcs with it and it was a breeze, however, there might be some issues with file ownerships, but users don't complain so neither do I. deff On Wednesday 29 September 2004 19:50, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote: I've got a WinXP machine that was configured for local profiles. I have now joined that machine to the domain, but when I try to log in as a user, it tries to use a roaming profile. Fine, that's what I want anyway. But it doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming -- it gives an error instead. OK, no problem, I will change the type. I log in as local admin and go to her profile. It only gives me Local as an option. Maybe it's because I'm not logged into the domain. OK, I log into the domain as Administrator (alias root -- uid of 0). It doesn't even let me SEE her profile then. Because it is local, I assume. So ok, I add MYDOMAIN\Administrator as a local administrator on her machine. It lets me see her profile now but I still can't change it to roaming. And every time I try to copy it into either Administrator's directory on the server, or hers, it gives me Permission Denied. So what is the real way to get this accomplished? Thanks, Misty -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
On Thursday 30 September 2004 02:58, deff wrote: > You had your answers right in front of ya. > Every xp includes "Files and Settings transfer wizard" (accessories->system > tools) for this job. > It's simple : I had high hopes for this. I went and did it this afternoon. First I tried copying only the settings. I put them in a folder on her hard drive, made that folder fully controllable by SAMBADOMAIN/heruser as well as LOCALCOMPUTER/heruser. Logged into the Samba domain, imported her settings, and logged off. Logged back in and it SAID it had transferred her settings. But it had not! I don't understand why, So right now I am doing it again, having chosen both files AND settings. This doesn't seem right as it is copying every file off her entire computer. However I will try it and see. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. :/ Misty > 1. login as local user, run wizard, select old computer, select some > directory to store your data, click next, wait till its done, logoff. > 2. login as new user, run wizard, select new computer, find directory you > stored your data to, click next, wait till its done, relogon. > > You're done. > > Migrated some 20 pcs with it and it was a breeze, however, there might be > some issues with file ownerships, but users don't complain so neither do I. > > deff > > On Wednesday 29 September 2004 19:50, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote: > > I've got a WinXP machine that was configured for local profiles. I have > > now joined that machine to the domain, but when I try to log in as a > > user, it tries to use a roaming profile. Fine, that's what I want > > anyway. But it doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local > > profile to roaming -- it gives an error instead. OK, no problem, I will > > change the type. I log in as local admin and go to her profile. It only > > gives me Local as an option. Maybe it's because I'm not logged into the > > domain. OK, I log into the domain as Administrator (alias root -- uid of > > 0). It doesn't even let me SEE her profile then. Because it is local, I > > assume. So ok, I add MYDOMAIN\Administrator as a local administrator on > > her machine. It lets me see her profile now but I still can't change it > > to roaming. And every time I try to copy it into either Administrator's > > directory on the server, or hers, it gives me Permission Denied. > > > > So what is the real way to get this accomplished? > > > > Thanks, > > Misty -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
You had your answers right in front of ya. Every xp includes "Files and Settings transfer wizard" (accessories->system tools) for this job. It's simple : 1. login as local user, run wizard, select old computer, select some directory to store your data, click next, wait till its done, logoff. 2. login as new user, run wizard, select new computer, find directory you stored your data to, click next, wait till its done, relogon. You're done. Migrated some 20 pcs with it and it was a breeze, however, there might be some issues with file ownerships, but users don't complain so neither do I. deff On Wednesday 29 September 2004 19:50, Misty Stanley-Jones wrote: > I've got a WinXP machine that was configured for local profiles. I have > now joined that machine to the domain, but when I try to log in as a user, > it tries to use a roaming profile. Fine, that's what I want anyway. But > it doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming > -- it gives an error instead. OK, no problem, I will change the type. I > log in as local admin and go to her profile. It only gives me Local as an > option. Maybe it's because I'm not logged into the domain. OK, I log into > the domain as Administrator (alias root -- uid of 0). It doesn't even let > me SEE her profile then. Because it is local, I assume. So ok, I add > MYDOMAIN\Administrator as a local administrator on her machine. It lets me > see her profile now but I still can't change it to roaming. And every time > I try to copy it into either Administrator's directory on the server, or > hers, it gives me Permission Denied. > > So what is the real way to get this accomplished? > > Thanks, > Misty -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
Paul Geinger's idea below looks like it will work. I've found a way that you can force windows to replace the invalid SID in NTUSER.DAT with a valid one, whithout trying to discover what the valid SID is (they're very long and cumbersome anyway), and still preserving all the profile's customization. I'll post it under the Roaming Profiles:Samba PDC:WinXP:User must be local admin thread. I never did try the profiles program. I've got the samba 3.0.7 rpm installed and the profiles man page is there, but I couldn't find the profiles binary. I'll mess around with that later. On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:42:41 -0500, Misty Stanley-Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 29 September 2004 13:21, Zach wrote: > > I'm currently trying to solve a problem regarding roaming profiles in > > another thread. In this case it appears the profiles weren't migrated > > properly. In my case I think (it was a long time ago) I simply copied > > the the profile directory up to the server with a simple drag and drop > > (I didn't know better). In trying to solve the problems with a now > > malformed NTUSER.DAT a google search turned this up: > > http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/profiles.1.html > > > > It appears the samba developers are attempting to address this very > > problem. > > Thanks, that looks very promising. I even have that binary! However, how do > I find what the user's current SID is? We were in a workgroup environment, > with also logging onto Novell Netware. Does she even have a SID? Do I have > to go into her registry to find it? > > Thanks in advance, > Misty > > > > > > > See the thread, Roaming Profiles:Samba PDC:WinXP:User must be local > > admin, for more info. > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:08:24 -0500, Paul Gienger > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming > > > > -- it > > > > > > That would actually be a very *dumb* thing to do. These are two users > > > from two different worlds as far as Windows is concerned. If you were > > > to look at the SIDs of them (windows version of UID) you would see they > > > arent even close. > > > > > > >So what is the real way to get this accomplished? > > > > > > Not sure if this is the 'approved' way to do things like this, but it > > > always works for me when I have to migrate a profile from one dir to > > > another, usually I use it when switching domains, i.e. from our 'one > > > domain per site' to one global domain where the sid just can't match > > > ANYWAY > > > > > > 1. Copy said user's profile to a backup location > > > 2. Move the 'Default User' profile someplace so that it isn't in the way > > > 3. Copy said user's old profile to Default User > > > 4. Log in as said user, the default profile will copy to the user's > > > profile 5. Move real 'Default User' back > > > > > > Now there will be some things that aren't migrated but that depends a > > > lot on your setup and what programs you run. For the most part, > > > everything involving the SID that Windows knows about will be migrated > > > in my experience. > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Gienger Office: 701-281-1884 > > > Applied Engineering Inc. > > > Information Systems Consultant Fax:701-281-1322 > > > URL: www.ae-solutions.commailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
Not sure if this is the 'approved' way to do things like this, but it always works for me when I have to migrate a profile from one dir to another, usually I use it when switching domains, i.e. from our 'one domain per site' to one global domain where the sid just can't match ANYWAY 1. Copy said user's profile to a backup location 2. Move the 'Default User' profile someplace so that it isn't in the way 3. Copy said user's old profile to Default User 4. Log in as said user, the default profile will copy to the user's profile 5. Move real 'Default User' back You rock dude. Never had to do this before. Didn't realize ntuser.dat was SID locked. The above works PERFECTLY for my purposes. Cheers TMS III Now there will be some things that aren't migrated but that depends a lot on your setup and what programs you run. For the most part, everything involving the SID that Windows knows about will be migrated in my experience. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
Been working on this for a while Misty. Stay tuned. TMS III Misty Stanley-Jones wrote: I've got a WinXP machine that was configured for local profiles. I have now joined that machine to the domain, but when I try to log in as a user, it tries to use a roaming profile. Fine, that's what I want anyway. But it doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming -- it gives an error instead. OK, no problem, I will change the type. I log in as local admin and go to her profile. It only gives me Local as an option. Maybe it's because I'm not logged into the domain. OK, I log into the domain as Administrator (alias root -- uid of 0). It doesn't even let me SEE her profile then. Because it is local, I assume. So ok, I add MYDOMAIN\Administrator as a local administrator on her machine. It lets me see her profile now but I still can't change it to roaming. And every time I try to copy it into either Administrator's directory on the server, or hers, it gives me Permission Denied. So what is the real way to get this accomplished? Thanks, Misty -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
I'm currently trying to solve a problem regarding roaming profiles in another thread. In this case it appears the profiles weren't migrated properly. In my case I think (it was a long time ago) I simply copied the the profile directory up to the server with a simple drag and drop (I didn't know better). In trying to solve the problems with a now malformed NTUSER.DAT a google search turned this up: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/profiles.1.html It appears the samba developers are attempting to address this very problem. See the thread, Roaming Profiles:Samba PDC:WinXP:User must be local admin, for more info. On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:08:24 -0500, Paul Gienger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming -- it > > > > > That would actually be a very *dumb* thing to do. These are two users > from two different worlds as far as Windows is concerned. If you were > to look at the SIDs of them (windows version of UID) you would see they > arent even close. > > >So what is the real way to get this accomplished? > > > > > Not sure if this is the 'approved' way to do things like this, but it > always works for me when I have to migrate a profile from one dir to > another, usually I use it when switching domains, i.e. from our 'one > domain per site' to one global domain where the sid just can't match > ANYWAY > > 1. Copy said user's profile to a backup location > 2. Move the 'Default User' profile someplace so that it isn't in the way > 3. Copy said user's old profile to Default User > 4. Log in as said user, the default profile will copy to the user's profile > 5. Move real 'Default User' back > > Now there will be some things that aren't migrated but that depends a > lot on your setup and what programs you run. For the most part, > everything involving the SID that Windows knows about will be migrated > in my experience. > > -- > Paul Gienger Office: 701-281-1884 > Applied Engineering Inc. > Information Systems Consultant Fax:701-281-1322 > URL: www.ae-solutions.commailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming -- it That would actually be a very *dumb* thing to do. These are two users from two different worlds as far as Windows is concerned. If you were to look at the SIDs of them (windows version of UID) you would see they arent even close. So what is the real way to get this accomplished? Not sure if this is the 'approved' way to do things like this, but it always works for me when I have to migrate a profile from one dir to another, usually I use it when switching domains, i.e. from our 'one domain per site' to one global domain where the sid just can't match ANYWAY 1. Copy said user's profile to a backup location 2. Move the 'Default User' profile someplace so that it isn't in the way 3. Copy said user's old profile to Default User 4. Log in as said user, the default profile will copy to the user's profile 5. Move real 'Default User' back Now there will be some things that aren't migrated but that depends a lot on your setup and what programs you run. For the most part, everything involving the SID that Windows knows about will be migrated in my experience. -- Paul Gienger Office: 701-281-1884 Applied Engineering Inc. Information Systems Consultant Fax:701-281-1322 URL: www.ae-solutions.commailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Switch profile from local to roaming?
I've got a WinXP machine that was configured for local profiles. I have now joined that machine to the domain, but when I try to log in as a user, it tries to use a roaming profile. Fine, that's what I want anyway. But it doesn't do the smart thing and copy the user's local profile to roaming -- it gives an error instead. OK, no problem, I will change the type. I log in as local admin and go to her profile. It only gives me Local as an option. Maybe it's because I'm not logged into the domain. OK, I log into the domain as Administrator (alias root -- uid of 0). It doesn't even let me SEE her profile then. Because it is local, I assume. So ok, I add MYDOMAIN\Administrator as a local administrator on her machine. It lets me see her profile now but I still can't change it to roaming. And every time I try to copy it into either Administrator's directory on the server, or hers, it gives me Permission Denied. So what is the real way to get this accomplished? Thanks, Misty -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
