Re: [Samba] Workgroup compared to Domain

2010-10-29 Thread Gaiseric Vandal
You may want to read up on some of the Microsoft documentation.  The
fundamental difference is that with a domain, the user and computer accounts
are centralized, not maintained separately on each computer.  

My experience is that once you get before 5 machines managing a workgroup
gets impractical.

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Are there any good articles comparing features/functions of a Workgroup 
compared to a Domain?

I am trying to put something together for the Amahi project and so far 
my searches have been rather slim pickins.


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Re: [Samba] Workgroup compared to Domain

2010-10-29 Thread Bruce Richardson
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 09:16:43PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Are there any good articles comparing features/functions of a
 Workgroup compared to a Domain?

If you don't want the centralised control of a Windows domain, leave
Workgroups well alone; they are fragilel overly complex for what they do
and quite obsolete.  Better to look at Zero Configuration networking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_configuration_networking

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Re: [Samba] Workgroup compared to Domain

2010-10-29 Thread John H Terpstra
On 10/29/2010 03:15 PM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 09:16:43PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Are there any good articles comparing features/functions of a
 Workgroup compared to a Domain?
 
 If you don't want the centralised control of a Windows domain, leave
 Workgroups well alone; they are fragilel overly complex for what they do
 and quite obsolete.  Better to look at Zero Configuration networking.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_configuration_networking
 
 
Please help use to understand exactly how ZeroConf helps with user and
group management.  Confused by your answer!

- John T.
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Re: [Samba] Workgroup compared to Domain

2010-10-29 Thread Bruce Richardson
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 06:50:08PM -0500, John H Terpstra wrote:
  
 Please help use to understand exactly how ZeroConf helps with user and
 group management.  Confused by your answer!

Are you one of the original posters alternate personalities?  Otherwise,
I'm a little confused by yours.  The OP has said almost nothing about
about what he's actually looking for; I think you're making some
unwarranted assumptions about what those needs are.  Did you even
research the Amahi project?  For a lot of it's common uses, UPnP-style
solutions are actually appropriate.  If the OP has something else in
mind, maybe you could ask.

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Re: [Samba] Workgroup compared to Domain

2010-10-29 Thread John H Terpstra
On 10/29/2010 07:41 PM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 06:50:08PM -0500, John H Terpstra wrote:

 Please help use to understand exactly how ZeroConf helps with user and
 group management.  Confused by your answer!
 
 Are you one of the original posters alternate personalities?  

No, I am not an alternate personality for the OP. The OP asked for
documentation regarding MS Windows workgroups and domains to help him
write documentation for the Amahi project.

If I understood your reply correctly, you believe UPnP and ZeroConf
solves the problem of MS Windows workgroup management.  While that may
be an option it does not answer the OP request very well - or does it?
It certainly does not help him to document the use of Samba which  I
understood as the nature of his request for assistance.

 Otherwise, I'm a little confused by yours.  The OP has said almost nothing 
 about
 about what he's actually looking for; I think you're making some
 unwarranted assumptions about what those needs are.  

Maybe I am making too many assumptions, in which case mea culpa.

 Did you even research the Amahi project? 

Yes!  I might know a little bit about UPnP and the use of avahi
(zeroconf) - but that is way off topic for questions regarding Samba's
workgroup and domain security models.

 For a lot of it's common uses, UPnP-style
 solutions are actually appropriate.  If the OP has something else in
 mind, maybe you could ask.
 

If the OP feels inclined perhaps he will respond and clarify.

Cheers,
John T.
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[Samba] Workgroup compared to Domain

2010-10-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Are there any good articles comparing features/functions of a Workgroup 
compared to a Domain?


I am trying to put something together for the Amahi project and so far 
my searches have been rather slim pickins.



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