Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 02:41:35PM +1000, C Waddy wrote: No luck so far with a suitable solution for file replication to BDC and retain ntfs perms.. After testing again with Rsync, it will not preserve NTFS permissions, no matter what flags are used? Glusterfs is cool but only for 64 Bit systems. There must be a solution to this with Samba4, anyone using a tested and working Method? Without the replication of folders/files with NTFS ACL's we can't use Samba4 in our Business which is very frustrating :( Are you talking about a filesystem mounted from Linux formatted as NTFS ? Or a normal Samba filesystem (e.g. ext4) with Samba-style NTFS permissions stored on it ? If the latter, and rsync isn't copying the Samba NTFS permissions, I have an idea as to what may be wrong here. Might need an rsync patch :-). Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
No luck so far with a suitable solution for file replication to BDC and retain ntfs perms.. After testing again with Rsync, it will not preserve NTFS permissions, no matter what flags are used? Glusterfs is cool but only for 64 Bit systems. There must be a solution to this with Samba4, anyone using a tested and working Method? Without the replication of folders/files with NTFS ACL's we can't use Samba4 in our Business which is very frustrating :( On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Ben Metcalfe bwmetca...@gmail.com wrote: Without inviting too many anti-CDDL flames; if you have ZFS on Linux working on your samba 4 box, a zfs send and receive should do the job well; preserving all file attributes and only transferring deltas. Plus you get all the usual ZFS benefits (snapshots, copy-on-write, check-summing), assuming you've got the RAM to make it work smoothly. http://zfsonlinux.org/ Has anyone tried this configuration? Ben On 1 March 2013 23:46, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: Thanks. I asked this a few weeks back and didn't get much response. The half-hearted consensus was that rsync wouldn't do the job. [It seemed to me it should, as long as you're replicating between two DC members, and not to a non DC member. (Because, as I figured it, a non DC member wouldn't have any idea about the users/groups, since it's not replicating and of the DC data, right?)] Glad for any light you can shed - and thanks for letting me know it should work. I'll tinker with it when I'm to that point. -Greg JA On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 09:13:39PM -0800, Gregory Sloop wrote: I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] JA rsync using -A (preserve ACLs) and -X (preserve extended attributes) JA and -o (preserve owner (super-user only)) and -g (preserve group) JA should copy thing perfectly. -- Gregory Sloop, Principal: Sloop Network Computer Consulting Voice: 503.251.0452 x82 EMail: gr...@sloop.net http://www.sloop.net --- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Did you try using -X -A flags? Also you can try using getfacl and setfacl Enviado desde un dispositivo movil El 2/03/2013, a las 23:41, C Waddy craigwa...@gmail.com escribió: No luck so far with a suitable solution for file replication to BDC and retain ntfs perms.. After testing again with Rsync, it will not preserve NTFS permissions, no matter what flags are used? Glusterfs is cool but only for 64 Bit systems. There must be a solution to this with Samba4, anyone using a tested and working Method? Without the replication of folders/files with NTFS ACL's we can't use Samba4 in our Business which is very frustrating :( On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Ben Metcalfe bwmetca...@gmail.com wrote: Without inviting too many anti-CDDL flames; if you have ZFS on Linux working on your samba 4 box, a zfs send and receive should do the job well; preserving all file attributes and only transferring deltas. Plus you get all the usual ZFS benefits (snapshots, copy-on-write, check-summing), assuming you've got the RAM to make it work smoothly. http://zfsonlinux.org/ Has anyone tried this configuration? Ben On 1 March 2013 23:46, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: Thanks. I asked this a few weeks back and didn't get much response. The half-hearted consensus was that rsync wouldn't do the job. [It seemed to me it should, as long as you're replicating between two DC members, and not to a non DC member. (Because, as I figured it, a non DC member wouldn't have any idea about the users/groups, since it's not replicating and of the DC data, right?)] Glad for any light you can shed - and thanks for letting me know it should work. I'll tinker with it when I'm to that point. -Greg JA On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 09:13:39PM -0800, Gregory Sloop wrote: I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] JA rsync using -A (preserve ACLs) and -X (preserve extended attributes) JA and -o (preserve owner (super-user only)) and -g (preserve group) JA should copy thing perfectly. -- Gregory Sloop, Principal: Sloop Network Computer Consulting Voice: 503.251.0452 x82 EMail: gr...@sloop.net http://www.sloop.net --- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
I'm voting for... Daniel is going make a nice example/howto howto do this. ;-)) i've seen him talking a lot about this, but howto setup this... I like to know.. ;-) Gr. Louis -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: muel...@tropenklinik.de [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Namens Daniel Müller Verzonden: vrijdag 1 maart 2013 8:09 Aan: 'C Waddy'; 'Greg Sloop' CC: samba@lists.samba.org Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Use glusterfs. And samba4 in replication mode. Good Luck --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von C Waddy Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2013 07:19 An: Greg Sloop Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Hi Greg, Thanks for the info, its a tough one. I was hoping the msdsf would replicate data but it appears it doesnt appear to or am i missing something? I used a program in the past called File replication pro on Suse/novell and it worked. I haave emailed their support and asked if it will work in our situation. I am going to give it a go in the Samba4 test environment over the weekend, ill let you know if it works. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off CW the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to CW certain folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. CW Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using CW the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] This last idea sounds bat$hit insane - but hey, it might actually work reasonably well. :) -Greg -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Thanks Daniel, I did have a look at that option and it now I looked harder it is an excellent solution! Basically Glusterfs will replicate the file storage. Glusterfs looks straight forward enough to setup: http://www.howtoforge.com/high-availability-storage-with-glusterfs-3.2.x-on-centos-6.3-automatic-file-replication-mirror-across-two-storage-servers On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM, L.P.H. van Belle be...@bazuin.nl wrote: I'm voting for... Daniel is going make a nice example/howto howto do this. ;-)) i've seen him talking a lot about this, but howto setup this... I like to know.. ;-) Gr. Louis -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: muel...@tropenklinik.de [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Namens Daniel Müller Verzonden: vrijdag 1 maart 2013 8:09 Aan: 'C Waddy'; 'Greg Sloop' CC: samba@lists.samba.org Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Use glusterfs. And samba4 in replication mode. Good Luck --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von C Waddy Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2013 07:19 An: Greg Sloop Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Hi Greg, Thanks for the info, its a tough one. I was hoping the msdsf would replicate data but it appears it doesnt appear to or am i missing something? I used a program in the past called File replication pro on Suse/novell and it worked. I haave emailed their support and asked if it will work in our situation. I am going to give it a go in the Samba4 test environment over the weekend, ill let you know if it works. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off CW the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to CW certain folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. CW Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using CW the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] This last idea sounds bat$hit insane - but hey, it might actually work reasonably well. :) -Greg -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Being a mirror it should keep the NTFS permissions set? I will try this out and report my findings. Thoughts? On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM, C Waddy craigwa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Daniel, I did have a look at that option and it now I looked harder it is an excellent solution! Basically Glusterfs will replicate the file storage. Glusterfs looks straight forward enough to setup: http://www.howtoforge.com/high-availability-storage-with-glusterfs-3.2.x-on-centos-6.3-automatic-file-replication-mirror-across-two-storage-servers On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM, L.P.H. van Belle be...@bazuin.nl wrote: I'm voting for... Daniel is going make a nice example/howto howto do this. ;-)) i've seen him talking a lot about this, but howto setup this... I like to know.. ;-) Gr. Louis -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: muel...@tropenklinik.de [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Namens Daniel Müller Verzonden: vrijdag 1 maart 2013 8:09 Aan: 'C Waddy'; 'Greg Sloop' CC: samba@lists.samba.org Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Use glusterfs. And samba4 in replication mode. Good Luck --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von C Waddy Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2013 07:19 An: Greg Sloop Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Hi Greg, Thanks for the info, its a tough one. I was hoping the msdsf would replicate data but it appears it doesnt appear to or am i missing something? I used a program in the past called File replication pro on Suse/novell and it worked. I haave emailed their support and asked if it will work in our situation. I am going to give it a go in the Samba4 test environment over the weekend, ill let you know if it works. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off CW the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to CW certain folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. CW Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using CW the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] This last idea sounds bat$hit insane - but hey, it might actually work reasonably well. :) -Greg -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
I'm voting for... So do I, with the reservation that glusterfs requires an amd64 system, at least officially, whereas some people report (partial) success on i386 (don't know about non-Intel). But it will still be required to provide some sort of synchronous ID-mapping, which seems to be a much tougher task than just glusterfs. The only promising alternative I have found so far is the use of RFC2307 schema attributes, which is no fun to maintain manually and even then seems not to work out of the box with ADUC only. I've written a script (I'm admitting it's PHP) for this task and my plan is to test the entire setup this weekend. *From:* L.P.H. van Belle be...@bazuin.nl *To:* muel...@tropenklinik.demuel...@tropenklinik.de *Date:* Freitag, 1. März 2013 09:29:50 *Subject:* Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Daniel is going make a nice example/howto howto do this. ;-)) i've seen him talking a lot about this, but howto setup this... I like to know.. ;-) Gr. Louis -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: muel...@tropenklinik.de [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Namens Daniel Müller Verzonden: vrijdag 1 maart 2013 8:09 Aan: 'C Waddy'; 'Greg Sloop' CC: samba@lists.samba.org Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Use glusterfs. And samba4 in replication mode. Good Luck --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von C Waddy Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2013 07:19 An: Greg Sloop Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Hi Greg, Thanks for the info, its a tough one. I was hoping the msdsf would replicate data but it appears it doesnt appear to or am i missing something? I used a program in the past called File replication pro on Suse/novell and it worked. I haave emailed their support and asked if it will work in our situation. I am going to give it a go in the Samba4 test environment over the weekend, ill let you know if it works. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off CW the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to CW certain folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. CW Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using CW the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] This last idea sounds bat$hit insane - but hey, it might actually work reasonably well. :) -Greg -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Im looking for a nice setup like this. http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-a-standalone-storage-server-with-glusterfs-and-samba-on-debian-squeeze with samba4 DC and DC replication. Samba 4 DC ( and RODC's ) and having multiple subnets and remote locations. using bind for dns. Integrations of Zarafa schema in AD. having other servers with nfs linked nfs v2 3 ( like to have v4 also ) I can make a nice howto, but im missing some knowledge and the caveats where to lookout for. Im going to use debian or ubuntu, depends. I like debian more, but my servers are Dell, and ubuntu is adviced by dell, because of bit better driver support Looked a lot, and yes there's a lot out there but all snipets of what im looking for. I'll like a nice howto based on real world networks. Im working now on a howto and setup voor nagios3 with centreon on ubuntu ( and more) , without compiling. Only debs used, i can only do 1 howto at a time. For example this setup, first time took 8 hours. Now im at about 90% of the setup, install time is now about 2.5 hours.. So, if someone is installing samba, please please, write down very step, failuere, success, and put it here. Or on your website, let us all know what your doing, how and we learn all. And let us know why your choosing for a setup, this is i think most important. and yes i know this place. ;-) http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4 And many thanks to the samba team for all support here. Louis Van: C Waddy [mailto:craigwa...@gmail.com] Verzonden: vrijdag 1 maart 2013 9:25 Aan: L.P.H. van Belle CC: muel...@tropenklinik.de; samba@lists.samba.org Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Being a mirror it should keep the NTFS permissions set? I will try this out and report my findings. Thoughts? On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM, C Waddy craigwa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Daniel, I did have a look at that option and it now I looked harder it is an excellent solution! Basically Glusterfs will replicate the file storage. Glusterfs looks straight forward enough to setup: http://www.howtoforge.com/high-availability-storage-with-glusterfs-3.2.x-on-centos-6.3-automatic-file-replication-mirror-across-two-storage-servers On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM, L.P.H. van Belle be...@bazuin.nl wrote: I'm voting for... Daniel is going make a nice example/howto howto do this. ;-)) i've seen him talking a lot about this, but howto setup this... I like to know.. ;-) Gr. Louis -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: muel...@tropenklinik.de [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Namens Daniel Müller Verzonden: vrijdag 1 maart 2013 8:09 Aan: 'C Waddy'; 'Greg Sloop' CC: samba@lists.samba.org Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Use glusterfs. And samba4 in replication mode. Good Luck --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von C Waddy Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2013 07:19 An: Greg Sloop Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Hi Greg, Thanks for the info, its a tough one. I was hoping the msdsf would replicate data but it appears it doesnt appear to or am i missing something? I used a program in the past called File replication pro on Suse/novell and it worked. I haave emailed their support and asked if it will work in our situation. I am going to give it a go in the Samba4 test environment over the weekend, ill let you know if it works. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off CW the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to CW certain folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. CW Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using CW the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 09:13:39PM -0800, Gregory Sloop wrote: I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] rsync using -A (preserve ACLs) and -X (preserve extended attributes) and -o (preserve owner (super-user only)) and -g (preserve group) should copy thing perfectly. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Thanks. I asked this a few weeks back and didn't get much response. The half-hearted consensus was that rsync wouldn't do the job. [It seemed to me it should, as long as you're replicating between two DC members, and not to a non DC member. (Because, as I figured it, a non DC member wouldn't have any idea about the users/groups, since it's not replicating and of the DC data, right?)] Glad for any light you can shed - and thanks for letting me know it should work. I'll tinker with it when I'm to that point. -Greg JA On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 09:13:39PM -0800, Gregory Sloop wrote: I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] JA rsync using -A (preserve ACLs) and -X (preserve extended attributes) JA and -o (preserve owner (super-user only)) and -g (preserve group) JA should copy thing perfectly. -- Gregory Sloop, Principal: Sloop Network Computer Consulting Voice: 503.251.0452 x82 EMail: gr...@sloop.net http://www.sloop.net --- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Without inviting too many anti-CDDL flames; if you have ZFS on Linux working on your samba 4 box, a zfs send and receive should do the job well; preserving all file attributes and only transferring deltas. Plus you get all the usual ZFS benefits (snapshots, copy-on-write, check-summing), assuming you've got the RAM to make it work smoothly. http://zfsonlinux.org/ Has anyone tried this configuration? Ben On 1 March 2013 23:46, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: Thanks. I asked this a few weeks back and didn't get much response. The half-hearted consensus was that rsync wouldn't do the job. [It seemed to me it should, as long as you're replicating between two DC members, and not to a non DC member. (Because, as I figured it, a non DC member wouldn't have any idea about the users/groups, since it's not replicating and of the DC data, right?)] Glad for any light you can shed - and thanks for letting me know it should work. I'll tinker with it when I'm to that point. -Greg JA On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 09:13:39PM -0800, Gregory Sloop wrote: I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] JA rsync using -A (preserve ACLs) and -X (preserve extended attributes) JA and -o (preserve owner (super-user only)) and -g (preserve group) JA should copy thing perfectly. -- Gregory Sloop, Principal: Sloop Network Computer Consulting Voice: 503.251.0452 x82 EMail: gr...@sloop.net http://www.sloop.net --- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
[Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Hi, I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off the PDC, I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to certain folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. Rysnc doesnt seem to keep the ntfs permissions The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using the DC and can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. Is there some way to achieve this? Any help appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to certain CW folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] This last idea sounds bat$hit insane - but hey, it might actually work reasonably well. :) -Greg -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Hi Greg, Thanks for the info, its a tough one. I was hoping the msdsf would replicate data but it appears it doesnt appear to or am i missing something? I used a program in the past called File replication pro on Suse/novell and it worked. I haave emailed their support and asked if it will work in our situation. I am going to give it a go in the Samba4 test environment over the weekend, ill let you know if it works. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to certain CW folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] This last idea sounds bat$hit insane - but hey, it might actually work reasonably well. :) -Greg -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication
Use glusterfs. And samba4 in replication mode. Good Luck --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von C Waddy Gesendet: Freitag, 1. März 2013 07:19 An: Greg Sloop Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] samba4 PDC to BDC file replication Hi Greg, Thanks for the info, its a tough one. I was hoping the msdsf would replicate data but it appears it doesnt appear to or am i missing something? I used a program in the past called File replication pro on Suse/novell and it worked. I haave emailed their support and asked if it will work in our situation. I am going to give it a go in the Samba4 test environment over the weekend, ill let you know if it works. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Gregory Sloop gr...@sloop.net wrote: CW I have built two samba4 boxes, one as a PDC and the as a DC, all working CW perfectly. If I create a user through the mmc snapin then turn off CW the PDC, CW I can still login to the domain using the DC which is great. The problem is CW their files and ntfs permissions on BDC. CW I have assigned user and group rights using windows explorer to CW certain folders, i.e granted user1 full permissions to that folder CW The problem I have is trying to replicate/snc the users data/files from PDC CW to DC whilst keeping the NTFS permissions that have been set. CW Rysnc doesnt CW seem to keep the ntfs permissions CW The reason for this is if the PDC goes down, user logs on using CW the DC and CW can access their files which have retained their files and permissions. CW Is there some way to achieve this? I'm in the same boat, and I'm only aware of two possibilities. 1) Robocopy - using a Windows client. BUT Robocopy doesn't do file deltas - changed files are copied in their entirety. Which isn't a problem if you don't have large files. But if you've got a 10G file that changes often, then this probably isn't the best alternative. 2) http://www.bvckup.com/support/ [Bvckup] This also appears to be a Windows utility, but does handle file delta's. I have never used this tool and so can't vouch for it in any way. If you find a functional solution, that preferably can be used on the two Linux/Samba boxes to do file-deltas and still maintain the permissions - that would be best. One other option that might work: Rsync the data, and use robocopy to simply duplicate the permissions structure. [I believe this is possible.] This last idea sounds bat$hit insane - but hey, it might actually work reasonably well. :) -Greg -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
