Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
hi tom possibly it's not a bug in samba but a problem on client side? you said, you tried even with 2k clients and it worked: was it the same excel version like on XP ? maybe it's because of excel: when opening files in excel, copies are made of this file until you close this file AFAIK if another user opens the same file, a new tmp-file is created by excel so maybe the older one is overwriten/deleted and the first client can't modify his document anymore? may be you can define this excel behaviour in the options-menu ? micha Jeremy Allison wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 06:10:35PM +0200, Tom Lazar wrote: hello, i have a question concerning the locking feature of samba (both 2.2.8 and 3.0.0) that i haven't found answered in the documentation. at this point i am not sure, whether it's a bug in samba, the client applications or simply a misunderstanding of the locking feature itself on my part - at any rate it's a pressing problem, as my clients are losing both their data as well as their faith in the server! This was a bug in 3.0.0, has been fixed in the 3.0.1 CVS tree and in the 3.0.1 pre release. I posted the patch on this list, sorry for the problem. If you can't find it in the archives (look for read only Excel file) mail me and I'll look it up. Jeremy. -- Matrix - more than a vision ** Michael Gasch Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology Deutscher Platz 6 04103 Leipzig Germany ** -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dmitry Melekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients? On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 12:47:55PM +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote: Unfortunately this patch doesn't solve all locking problems :-( As i wrote (I posted mail to samba-technical by mistake) I have locking problems with current CVS. I don't know of any outstanding problems. I tried to reproduce the problem you reported on Samba-technical and was unable to do so (the two user opens of an Excel spreadsheet worked fine for me). You didn't contact me with follow up information on what your problem was. Just because I don't have such information :-( I can't reproduce my problems too. Is it possible to reproduce Excel crash? ;-) But I asked how can I see what happens, i.e. where samba 3 store locks info? No replies :-( Again, even deleting of locking.tdb didn't help. And another problem, when smbstatus reported file, locked by unexistent process is not reproducable too. Just because I can't do it on production server and can't simulate workload :-( Please don't allege general locking problems on the list without trying to follow up with someone investigation your problem first. Sorry, but there are _general_ locking problems in samba 3. And, sorry, I have no technical info which can help to solve problem. (yet? ). May be somebody here had the same problems: 1. After MS Excel crash file becomed busy, i.e. Excel said that file is opened by another user and can be opened only read-only. smbstatus didn't show that there is lock on this file. Only way to open file was to disable locking in smb.conf. I even deleted locking.tdb and no results, file still can be opened only as read-only. fuser and lsof didn't show any locks on kernel level. 2. smbstatus showed that file is locked, but there was no such smb process running. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:41:29AM +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote: Sorry, but there are _general_ locking problems in samba 3. And, sorry, I have no technical info which can help to solve problem. (yet? ). The only known problems with 3.0.0 are the read-only issue, for which there is a posted patch and there is fixed in the 3.0.1 pre release. You are experiencing locking problems. This does not make a general locking problem in Samba3. You have not given me a reproducible test case, no one else is reporting this problem. I say again, don't allege general problems unless you have evidence for this being the case. You don't right now. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 06:10:35PM +0200, Tom Lazar wrote: hello, i have a question concerning the locking feature of samba (both 2.2.8 and 3.0.0) that i haven't found answered in the documentation. at this point i am not sure, whether it's a bug in samba, the client applications or simply a misunderstanding of the locking feature itself on my part - at any rate it's a pressing problem, as my clients are losing both their data as well as their faith in the server! This was a bug in 3.0.0, has been fixed in the 3.0.1 CVS tree and in the 3.0.1 pre release. I posted the patch on this list, sorry for the problem. If you can't find it in the archives (look for read only Excel file) mail me and I'll look it up. Unfortunately this patch doesn't solve all locking problems :-( As i wrote (I posted mail to samba-technical by mistake) I have locking problems with current CVS. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 12:47:55PM +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote: Unfortunately this patch doesn't solve all locking problems :-( As i wrote (I posted mail to samba-technical by mistake) I have locking problems with current CVS. I don't know of any outstanding problems. I tried to reproduce the problem you reported on Samba-technical and was unable to do so (the two user opens of an Excel spreadsheet worked fine for me). You didn't contact me with follow up information on what your problem was. Please don't allege general locking problems on the list without trying to follow up with someone investigation your problem first. Thanks, Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
On 17.10.2003, at 21:17, Jeremy Allison wrote: No, I can't reproduce this with 2 W2K boxes and Office 2000 SR1. hi again, i've done some more testing and have been able to nail down, when it happens: user a opens file test.xls, modifies it, but doesn't save it yet. user b opens it, closes it user a can't save any changes anymore! excel times out, renames the file to an arbitrary name and will not permit any further save attempts of the file. i have repeated this five times and it happened every time. i have created a fresh log-directory for samba, turned the log-level up to 10, restarted samba and then repeated the above steps. i've taken the liberty to upload a .tgz of both clients log files, the smbd.log, as well as my smb.conf to the following URL: http://tomster.org/geek/samba-debug-logs.tgz in the logs user a is machine burroughs with IP 192.168.0.23 and b is goedel with IP 192.168.0.177 What are the permissions/ownership on the xls file on your share ? the permissions for the file in question are: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll /home/shared/SambaTest/ total 34 -rwxrw-r-- 1 tomster house 82 Oct 18 18:26 ._FA7E5000 -rwxrw-r-- 1 tomster house 82 Oct 17 20:36 ._test.xls -rwxrw-r-- 1 tomster house 82 Oct 18 18:19 ._test2.xls -rwxrw-r-- 1 tomster house 82 Oct 18 18:21 ._test3.xls -rwxrw-r-- 1 tomster house 82 Oct 18 18:24 ._test4.xls -rwxrw-r-- 1 tomster house 24064 Oct 18 18:50 FA7E5000 (this is after excels renaming-funk...) clients are both mac osx (build 7B85 aka Panther Golden Master), using the latest version of Office v. X (10.1.5) the server is running freebsd 5.1p10 with samba 3.0.0 and your patch applied. the behaviour has been the same with 10.2.8 clients (to which i haven't got acces right now) currently I'm also not able to provide any testing with a Windows Client, but i can do that tomorrow or on monday. thank you for any feedback. I'm sort of getting desparate here... :-( there's twelve people who will have a busy day on monday and will be opening, closing and saving A LOT of excel files... kind regards from berlin, tom -- tom lazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 06:51:23PM +0200, Tom Lazar wrote: On 17.10.2003, at 21:17, Jeremy Allison wrote: No, I can't reproduce this with 2 W2K boxes and Office 2000 SR1. hi again, i've done some more testing and have been able to nail down, when it happens: clients are both mac osx (build 7B85 aka Panther Golden Master), using the latest version of Office v. X (10.1.5) the server is running freebsd 5.1p10 with samba 3.0.0 and your patch applied. Ok, this is the problem, I don't have access to a MacOSX client so no wonder I can't reproduce it. I'll contact Apple to see if I can get this fixed (ie. if they'll give me a client to test with). currently I'm also not able to provide any testing with a Windows Client, but i can do that tomorrow or on monday. I tested with the Windows clients. With two W2K clients it works fine. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] shared files not locked - samba culprit or clients?
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 06:10:35PM +0200, Tom Lazar wrote: hello, i have a question concerning the locking feature of samba (both 2.2.8 and 3.0.0) that i haven't found answered in the documentation. at this point i am not sure, whether it's a bug in samba, the client applications or simply a misunderstanding of the locking feature itself on my part - at any rate it's a pressing problem, as my clients are losing both their data as well as their faith in the server! This was a bug in 3.0.0, has been fixed in the 3.0.1 CVS tree and in the 3.0.1 pre release. I posted the patch on this list, sorry for the problem. If you can't find it in the archives (look for read only Excel file) mail me and I'll look it up. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
