Re: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-19 Thread Anthony Hologounis
Dariush Forouher wrote:


Am Die, 2002-12-17 um 20.19 schrieb John H Terpstra:
 

Just FYI - the user in question had an Outlook PST file that was nearly
1 Gigabyte in size. PST files are stored as part of the profile!! Any
   


Interessting, if I try to copy a profile >80mb back to samba, I doesn't
work (IIRC samba denies access to the profile share). Do you know if
this is a bug of my old samba 2.2.3 installation or something related to
Windows2K? I haven't looked further into it because this border is just
fine for me.

ciao
Dariush
 

Thanks all for the reply.
After further checking it seems the biggest culprits are the Desktop 
folder and the Application Data folder.
These are the porkers : ) The Application Data folder is 209M alone. How 
important is this folder?

Is there a way to edit what gets backed up when a user logs off? It 
would be nice to skip over these folders.( not sure if this would defeat 
the purpose of roaming profiles though)

I am not a windows person so the answer is not readily apparant.

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Re: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-17 Thread Dariush Forouher
Am Die, 2002-12-17 um 20.19 schrieb John H Terpstra:
> Just FYI - the user in question had an Outlook PST file that was nearly
> 1 Gigabyte in size. PST files are stored as part of the profile!! Any

Interessting, if I try to copy a profile >80mb back to samba, I doesn't
work (IIRC samba denies access to the profile share). Do you know if
this is a bug of my old samba 2.2.3 installation or something related to
Windows2K? I haven't looked further into it because this border is just
fine for me.

ciao
Dariush
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Re: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-17 Thread John H Terpstra
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Gareth Davies wrote:

Just want to comment on issues with roaming profile usage and to
highlight the comments made below.

Another user complained to me that profile loading was VERY slow and that
one user took over 10 minutes to log onto the network, during which all
other users experienced poor network performance.

Just FYI - the user in question had an Outlook PST file that was nearly
1 Gigabyte in size. PST files are stored as part of the profile!! Any
wonder this user had problems! Again, this is NOT a samba issue - it is an
artifact of how roaming profiles and outlook works, AND is a symptom of
incredibly poor network management if such situations are allowed to
develop.

Corollory:
--
If you want to use roaming profiles (good idea!), then it is essential
that profiles be managed. It is also important that all desktop tools and
service be configured in such a way that the profile environment remains
manageable. A good way to enforce this is trough the use of mandatory
profiles (ie: ones that the user can not change). This prevents the
growth in size of the profile. Oh yes, it also forces the site to manage
the network more carefully.

- John T.

> - Original Message -
> From: "Jacob Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles
>
>
> >
> > make sure that your users know that folders like there "Desktop" get
> > transferred every time they log on and off.  So if they have large files
> or
> > folders on there desktop it will severely slow things down.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:18 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles
> >
> >
> > I am on a rh 7.2 machinr running samba. My clients are windows 2000 and
> > whn using locl profiles I experience quick log-ons and quicj log-offs.
> >
> > Whwn I flag the client for roaming profiles, it seems to take many minutes
> 
>
> I had this problem before and it was down to Temporary Internet Files and
> E-mail.
>
> Make sure E-mail is stored on a network mapped drive, not in the profile,
> run a vbs that removes anything from people's desktops and puts it in their
> home directory.
>
> Outlook Express was our main culprit, every time an attachment is viewed in
> OE it's stored in Temp Inet files...so that gets huge fast.
>
> The profile gets copied to and fro every time a user logs on or off so make
> sure they are as small as possible.
>
> In the end we implemented a quota so if someones profile went over 10MB they
> couldn't log off, so they had to sort it out before they left.
>
> P.S. this is not a SAMBA related issue :)
>
> HTH
>
> Shaolin
>
> .: http://www.security-forums.com :.
>
>

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Re: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-17 Thread Gareth Davies
- Original Message -
From: "Jacob Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles


>
> make sure that your users know that folders like there "Desktop" get
> transferred every time they log on and off.  So if they have large files
or
> folders on there desktop it will severely slow things down.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles
>
>
> I am on a rh 7.2 machinr running samba. My clients are windows 2000 and
> whn using locl profiles I experience quick log-ons and quicj log-offs.
>
> Whwn I flag the client for roaming profiles, it seems to take many minutes


I had this problem before and it was down to Temporary Internet Files and
E-mail.

Make sure E-mail is stored on a network mapped drive, not in the profile,
run a vbs that removes anything from people's desktops and puts it in their
home directory.

Outlook Express was our main culprit, every time an attachment is viewed in
OE it's stored in Temp Inet files...so that gets huge fast.

The profile gets copied to and fro every time a user logs on or off so make
sure they are as small as possible.

In the end we implemented a quota so if someones profile went over 10MB they
couldn't log off, so they had to sort it out before they left.

P.S. this is not a SAMBA related issue :)

HTH

Shaolin

.: http://www.security-forums.com :.

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Re: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-17 Thread Gareth Davies
- Original Message -
From: "Jacob Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles


>
> make sure that your users know that folders like there "Desktop" get
> transferred every time they log on and off.  So if they have large files
or
> folders on there desktop it will severely slow things down.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles
>
>
> I am on a rh 7.2 machinr running samba. My clients are windows 2000 and
> whn using locl profiles I experience quick log-ons and quicj log-offs.
>
> Whwn I flag the client for roaming profiles, it seems to take many minutes


I had this problem before and it was down to Temporary Internet Files and
E-mail.

Make sure E-mail is stored on a network mapped drive, not in the profile,
run a vbs that removes anything from people's desktops and puts it in their
home directory.

Outlook Express was our main culprit, every time an attachment is viewed in
OE it's stored in Temp Inet files...so that gets huge fast.

The profile gets copied to and fro every time a user logs on or off so make
sure they are as small as possible.

In the end we implemented a quota so if someones profile went over 10MB they
couldn't log off, so they had to sort it out before they left.

P.S. this is not a SAMBA related issue :)

HTH

Shaolin

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RE: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-17 Thread Jacob Smith

make sure that your users know that folders like there "Desktop" get
transferred every time they log on and off.  So if they have large files or
folders on there desktop it will severely slow things down.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles


I am on a rh 7.2 machinr running samba. My clients are windows 2000 and
whn using locl profiles I experience quick log-ons and quicj log-offs.

Whwn I flag the client for roaming profiles, it seems to take many minutes
 to log off.

The users roaming directory IS created and is populated with
their user inoformation, one user has 300M of stuff.Which I thought
was alot.

When the user goes to log-off it takes many minutes to synch with
the server, is there a way to speed this up?


Thanks

Anthony


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RE: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-17 Thread Owens, Bob
Have them move there stuff to their home drive and create shortcuts to there
docs.  Check there profiles size with D-Folder (freeware program) from a
windows machine to see if contentIE is getting big and for an overall size
of everyone's folder with out click on every stinking one.  It copies the
size of their profile when the login and out.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles


I am on a rh 7.2 machinr running samba. My clients are windows 2000 and
whn using locl profiles I experience quick log-ons and quicj log-offs.

Whwn I flag the client for roaming profiles, it seems to take many minutes
 to log off.

The users roaming directory IS created and is populated with
their user inoformation, one user has 300M of stuff.Which I thought
was alot.

When the user goes to log-off it takes many minutes to synch with
the server, is there a way to speed this up?


Thanks

Anthony


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[Samba] slowness when using roaming profiles

2002-12-17 Thread ahologounis
I am on a rh 7.2 machinr running samba. My clients are windows 2000 and
whn using locl profiles I experience quick log-ons and quicj log-offs.

Whwn I flag the client for roaming profiles, it seems to take many minutes
 to log off.

The users roaming directory IS created and is populated with
their user inoformation, one user has 300M of stuff.Which I thought
was alot.

When the user goes to log-off it takes many minutes to synch with
the server, is there a way to speed this up?


Thanks

Anthony


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