[Samba] using winbind to map existing unix to AD users

2009-02-24 Thread Tom Lieuallen


On our campus, we have an AD forest.  Our particular department has a 
number of samba servers that authenticate to one tree of that AD forest.

All of our users have accounts in LDAP for unix and AD for windows.
We don't want/need winbind for authentication.  However, we would like the 
ability of setting ACLs on the samba server from windows clients.  So, I 
assume I need a mapping of unix uid to AD SID.


It seems winbind is the solution for this, however it seems to want to 
generate the uids rather than using getpwent to look that up.


Is there something simple that I'm overlooking?  Otherwise, I'm 
considering using idmap_ldap and pre-filling that ldap directory base

with the mappings myself.  :-(  Perhaps setup winbind with anon bind
or something so that it _can't_ add anything itself; just look things up.

I also saw one can use a 'net' command to pre-fill gid-sid mappings.
That might be nice/easy too, but I don't see anything similar for
uid-sid mappings.

thank you

Tom Lieuallen
Oregon State University
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Re: [Samba] using winbind to map existing unix to AD users

2009-02-24 Thread Christian McHugh
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 09:23:57 Tom Lieuallen wrote:
 It seems winbind is the solution for this, however it seems to want to
 generate the uids rather than using getpwent to look that up.

There are a few different plugins winbind can use to perform the uid-sid 
mapping. By default samba uses the tdb mapper which, as you describe, will 
generate uid maps on the fly. In my environment we have uid/gid info populated 
in active directory so our samba server is able to use the idmap_ad or 
idmap_adex modules to lookup uid info from ad. Depending on your environment 
you may be able to use the idmap_nss or idmap_ldap modules. See the idmap man 
pages on http://us6.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/

Christian McHugh
Northern Arizona University
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Re: [Samba] using winbind to map existing unix to AD users

2009-02-24 Thread Tom Lieuallen

Christian McHugh wrote:

On Tuesday 24 February 2009 09:23:57 Tom Lieuallen wrote:

It seems winbind is the solution for this, however it seems to want to
generate the uids rather than using getpwent to look that up.


There are a few different plugins winbind can use to perform the uid-sid 
mapping. By default samba uses the tdb mapper which, as you describe, will 
generate uid maps on the fly. In my environment we have uid/gid info populated 
in active directory so our samba server is able to use the idmap_ad or 
idmap_adex modules to lookup uid info from ad. Depending on your environment 
you may be able to use the idmap_nss or idmap_ldap modules. See the idmap man 
pages on http://us6.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/


Christian McHugh
Northern Arizona University


I looked at idmap_ldap and idmap_ad, but from the documentation, it 
seemed that those were just used by winbindd as a central storage 
mechanism for the mapping.  It would obviously use that for looking up 
maps that it had already defined, however it isn't clear to me how or if 
that fits in with an existing LDAP or AD account repository.  While one 
would assume those modules would be pretty similar, the little 
documentation is different.  The AD one mentions some schema, but the 
LDAP doc does not.  The AD one says it is read-only, but there is no 
mention of that with LDAP.


The docs make no mention of looking up existing (unix) UIDs.  It sounds 
like winbind still uses the configurable range of available UIDs to 
generate its own mapping (which it would refer to in the future).


Until I see some details, I'm going to assume this will be containerized 
in LDAP in its own area and not merged in with existing entries.  Plus, 
I still don't see anything to lead me to believe that it will do a 
getpwent to lookup a UID before randomly choosing a uid from the 
available range.


thanks

Tom Lieuallen
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Re: [Samba] using winbind to map existing unix to AD users

2009-02-24 Thread Kums
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Tom Lieuallen t...@engr.orst.edu wrote:


 On our campus, we have an AD forest.  Our particular department has a
 number of samba servers that authenticate to one tree of that AD forest.
 All of our users have accounts in LDAP for unix and AD for windows.
 We don't want/need winbind for authentication.  However, we would like the
 ability of setting ACLs on the samba server from windows clients.  So, I
 assume I need a mapping of unix uid to AD SID.

 It seems winbind is the solution for this, however it seems to want to
 generate the uids rather than using getpwent to look that up.

 Is there something simple that I'm overlooking?


May be you can use idmap backend = rid to use RID of the user SID to
generate the UID and GID?

http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/idmapper.html#id2599635

HTH,
-Kums
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Re: [Samba] using winbind to map existing unix to AD users

2009-02-24 Thread Tom Lieuallen

Andrew Chaplin wrote:

idmap backend = nss

It took me a while to figure that one out and I only got it after 
someone posted something on this list that was somewhat related.


I'm using it with 3.0.33 included in Solaris 10 and it works like a 
charm for win clients.  OSX clients are a different story due to issues 
with Finder.


This appears to be the right answer for our situation.  It didn't work 
for me with samba 3.3.0, but it did with 3.3.1.


thank you

Tom Lieuallen
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