RE: [Samba] Adminstrator Domain SID?

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Campbell
> On Tuesday 29 March 2005 21:57, Doug Campbell wrote:
> > In the Samba How-To Chapter 13 it says:
> >
> > "
> > The Administrator Domain SID
> > Please note that when configured as a DC, it is now required that an
> > account in the server's passdb backend be set to the domain SID of the
> > default Administrator account. To obtain the domain SID on a
> Samba DC, run
> > the following command:
> >
> > root#  net getlocalsid
> > SID for domain FOO is: S-1-5-21-4294955119-3368514841-2087710299
> >
> > You may assign the Domain Administrator rid to an account using
> the pdbedit
> > command as shown here:
> >
> > root#  pdbedit -U S-1-5-21-4294955119-3368514841-2087710299-500
> -u root -r
> > "
> >
> >
> > Question:  Is this information still valid after samba 3.0.11?
> I didn't do
> > this but things seem to be working fine.  If the information is still
> > valid, what would not having it affect?
>
> Yes, it is!
>
> OK. But what is the name of your administrator account? What is
> the SID for
> this account?

I currently only have three user accounts named: Administrator, dcampbell
and nobody

Both Administrator and dcampbell are in the Domain Admins group.

The SIDs are as follows:

Administrator SID: S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-2996
dcampbell SID: S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-3006
nobody SID: S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-2998

Domain Admins SID:  S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-512

> You do realize, I hope, that the RID=500 means the account is the
> Administrator for Windows clients. Any other RID will be seen by
> the Windows
> workstation (client) as an account other than the real Administrator.

Doesn't the fact that these accounts are in the Domain Admins group make
them "real" Administrators too?  I seem to have Administrative access to my
local machine just by being a member of teh Domain Admins group.

Just now, I went ahead and set the Administrators account RID to 500 and
removed it entirely for the Domain Admins group.  I wasn't able to use it
anymore to add a machine.  I expected this to be the case since being in the
Domain Admins group and having assigned it the new SE...Privilege settings
was what was allowing it to administrate the domain.

> What more must we do to clarify the wording so that everyone
> clearly gets the
> message? What is not clear in the documentation?

I guess for me it would help to know what doing this step is supposed to
accomplish.  If I can understand what the purpose of this is, I might be
able to help in clarifying the wording.

Could you explain this in a little more detail, please?

Thanks!

Doug

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RE: [Samba] Adminstrator Domain SID?

2005-03-29 Thread Doug Campbell
> On Tuesday 29 March 2005 21:57, Doug Campbell wrote:
> > In the Samba How-To Chapter 13 it says:
> >
> > "
> > The Administrator Domain SID
> > Please note that when configured as a DC, it is now required that an
> > account in the server's passdb backend be set to the domain SID of the
> > default Administrator account. To obtain the domain SID on a
> Samba DC, run
> > the following command:
> >
> > root#  net getlocalsid
> > SID for domain FOO is: S-1-5-21-4294955119-3368514841-2087710299
> >
> > You may assign the Domain Administrator rid to an account using
> the pdbedit
> > command as shown here:
> >
> > root#  pdbedit -U S-1-5-21-4294955119-3368514841-2087710299-500
> -u root -r
> > "
> >
> >
> > Question:  Is this information still valid after samba 3.0.11?
> I didn't do
> > this but things seem to be working fine.  If the information is still
> > valid, what would not having it affect?
>
> Yes, it is!
>
> OK. But what is the name of your administrator account? What is
> the SID for
> this account?

I currently only have three user accounts named: Administrator, dcampbell
and nobody

Both Administrator and dcampbell are in the Domain Admins group.

The SIDs are as follows:

Administrator SID: S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-2996
dcampbell SID: S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-3006
nobody SID: S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-2998

Domain Admins SID:  S-1-5-21-52543480-3766940008-3731351578-512

> You do realize, I hope, that the RID=500 means the account is the
> Administrator for Windows clients. Any other RID will be seen by
> the Windows
> workstation (client) as an account other than the real Administrator.

Doesn't the fact that these accounts are in the Domain Admins group make
them "real" Administrators too?  I seem to have Administrative access to my
local machine just by being a member of teh Domain Admins group.

Just now, I went ahead and set the Administrators account RID to 500 and
removed it entirely for the Domain Admins group.  I wasn't able to use it
anymore to add a machine.  I expected this to be the case since being in the
Domain Admins group and having assigned it the new SE...Privilege settings
was what was allowing it to administrate the domain.

> What more must we do to clarify the wording so that everyone
> clearly gets the
> message? What is not clear in the documentation?

I guess for me it would help to know what doing this step is supposed to
accomplish.  If I can understand what the purpose of this is, I might be
able to help in clarifying the wording.

Could you explain this in a little more detail, please?

Thanks!

Doug

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Re: [Samba] Adminstrator Domain SID?

2005-03-29 Thread John H Terpstra
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 21:57, Doug Campbell wrote:
> In the Samba How-To Chapter 13 it says:
>
> "
> The Administrator Domain SID
> Please note that when configured as a DC, it is now required that an
> account in the server's passdb backend be set to the domain SID of the
> default Administrator account. To obtain the domain SID on a Samba DC, run
> the following command:
>
> root#  net getlocalsid
> SID for domain FOO is: S-1-5-21-4294955119-3368514841-2087710299
>
> You may assign the Domain Administrator rid to an account using the pdbedit
> command as shown here:
>
> root#  pdbedit -U S-1-5-21-4294955119-3368514841-2087710299-500 -u root -r
> "
>
>
> Question:  Is this information still valid after samba 3.0.11?  I didn't do
> this but things seem to be working fine.  If the information is still
> valid, what would not having it affect?

Yes, it is!

OK. But what is the name of your administrator account? What is the SID for 
this account?

You do realize, I hope, that the RID=500 means the account is the 
Administrator for Windows clients. Any other RID will be seen by the Windows 
workstation (client) as an account other than the real Administrator.

What more must we do to clarify the wording so that everyone clearly gets the 
message? What is not clear in the documentation?

Have fun. :)

Cheers,
John T.

>
> BTW, I am using the ldapsam backend.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug

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