Re: [Samba] Archive attribute

2003-06-04 Thread John H Terpstra
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Brandon Lederer wrote:

> Our tape backup software (run through windows) backs up items based on
> whether the archive attribute is set or not.  If it is set, then it needs to
> be backed up.  Then it removes the attribute.  When a user modifies a file,
> the attribute is again set.  This is how it normally works.  Samba will not
> allow the Archive Attribute to be unchecked.  Is there anyway to allow this
> functionality.
>
> Samba 2.2.8a   also is the option available in Samba3?

man smb.conf

search for "map archive"

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RE: [Samba] Archive attribute

2003-06-04 Thread Rick Segeberg
I think this (below) is what you're looking for (from the smb.conf
documentation).  However, I don't think it will accomplish (I haven't
tried it though) your goal.  Sounds like you're trying to do
incremental/differential backups.  Since there are no archive bits for
your windows backup server to look at, it doesn't know what's changed.  

You need software that keeps a database of what's been backed up when
and can make decisions based on modified dates.  There are several linux
based backup packages that can do that, as well as some enterprise level
backup software with linux agents/clients that do it also.  Most are
pretty expensive.

The one I decided to to use is Novanet from Novastor, mostly due to
price and it worked.  I have to say it's not the fastest backup software
I've used, but it gets the job done.

Rick S.

>From smb.conf documentation:
==
map archive (S)
This controls whether the DOS archive attribute should be mapped to the
UNIX owner execute bit. The DOS archive bit is set when a file has been
modified since its last backup. One motivation for this option it to
keep Samba/your PC from making any file it touches from becoming
executable under UNIX. This can be quite annoying for shared source
code, documents, etc...

Note that this requires the create mask parameter to be set such that
owner execute bit is not masked out (i.e. it must include 100). See the
parameter create mask for details.

Default: map archive = yes
===


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Lederer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Archive attribute


Our tape backup software (run through windows) backs up items based on
whether the archive attribute is set or not.  If it is set, then it
needs to
be backed up.  Then it removes the attribute.  When a user modifies a
file,
the attribute is again set.  This is how it normally works.  Samba will
not
allow the Archive Attribute to be unchecked.  Is there anyway to allow
this
functionality.

Samba 2.2.8a   also is the option available in Samba3?









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RE: [Samba] Archive attribute

2003-06-04 Thread Brandon Lederer
Incremental backups is exactly what I am going after.  I am not sure whether
I will be able to accomplish this or not.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Segeberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Archive attribute


I think this (below) is what you're looking for (from the smb.conf
documentation).  However, I don't think it will accomplish (I haven't
tried it though) your goal.  Sounds like you're trying to do
incremental/differential backups.  Since there are no archive bits for
your windows backup server to look at, it doesn't know what's changed.  

You need software that keeps a database of what's been backed up when
and can make decisions based on modified dates.  There are several linux
based backup packages that can do that, as well as some enterprise level
backup software with linux agents/clients that do it also.  Most are
pretty expensive.

The one I decided to to use is Novanet from Novastor, mostly due to
price and it worked.  I have to say it's not the fastest backup software
I've used, but it gets the job done.

Rick S.

>From smb.conf documentation:
==
map archive (S)
This controls whether the DOS archive attribute should be mapped to the
UNIX owner execute bit. The DOS archive bit is set when a file has been
modified since its last backup. One motivation for this option it to
keep Samba/your PC from making any file it touches from becoming
executable under UNIX. This can be quite annoying for shared source
code, documents, etc...

Note that this requires the create mask parameter to be set such that
owner execute bit is not masked out (i.e. it must include 100). See the
parameter create mask for details.

Default: map archive = yes
===


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Lederer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Archive attribute


Our tape backup software (run through windows) backs up items based on
whether the archive attribute is set or not.  If it is set, then it
needs to
be backed up.  Then it removes the attribute.  When a user modifies a
file,
the attribute is again set.  This is how it normally works.  Samba will
not
allow the Archive Attribute to be unchecked.  Is there anyway to allow
this
functionality.

Samba 2.2.8a   also is the option available in Samba3?









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RE: [Samba] Archive attribute

2003-06-04 Thread Rick Segeberg
I had to go with new software that was "linux aware" and could do it
based on modified date. I found Novastor's Novanet for Linux and Danz
Restrospect Backup (windows interface only) to work, but mostly played
with and ended up purchasing Novanet mainly because we wanted a native
linux solution.  Retrospect will backup samba shares, but it's a windows
only program.

I'll be interested if you can make it work using the archive mapping (or
other) option.

Rick S.

-Original Message-
From: Brandon Lederer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Archive attribute


Incremental backups is exactly what I am going after.  I am not sure
whether
I will be able to accomplish this or not.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Segeberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Samba] Archive attribute


I think this (below) is what you're looking for (from the smb.conf
documentation).  However, I don't think it will accomplish (I haven't
tried it though) your goal.  Sounds like you're trying to do
incremental/differential backups.  Since there are no archive bits for
your windows backup server to look at, it doesn't know what's changed.  

You need software that keeps a database of what's been backed up when
and can make decisions based on modified dates.  There are several linux
based backup packages that can do that, as well as some enterprise level
backup software with linux agents/clients that do it also.  Most are
pretty expensive.

The one I decided to to use is Novanet from Novastor, mostly due to
price and it worked.  I have to say it's not the fastest backup software
I've used, but it gets the job done.

Rick S.

>From smb.conf documentation:
==
map archive (S)
This controls whether the DOS archive attribute should be mapped to the
UNIX owner execute bit. The DOS archive bit is set when a file has been
modified since its last backup. One motivation for this option it to
keep Samba/your PC from making any file it touches from becoming
executable under UNIX. This can be quite annoying for shared source
code, documents, etc...

Note that this requires the create mask parameter to be set such that
owner execute bit is not masked out (i.e. it must include 100). See the
parameter create mask for details.

Default: map archive = yes
===


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Lederer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Samba] Archive attribute


Our tape backup software (run through windows) backs up items based on
whether the archive attribute is set or not.  If it is set, then it
needs to
be backed up.  Then it removes the attribute.  When a user modifies a
file,
the attribute is again set.  This is how it normally works.  Samba will
not
allow the Archive Attribute to be unchecked.  Is there anyway to allow
this
functionality.

Samba 2.2.8a   also is the option available in Samba3?









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RE: [Samba] Archive attribute

2003-06-04 Thread Brandon Lederer
Setting up a test machine to do this on.  Will make sure to report back

Brandon
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