RE: [Samba] RE: SPAM
I have to say I've had a massive increase (like 200 hundred swen.A mails in the last 24 hours) since I (re)joined the samba list. I don't think its a fault of the list, but I'm curious as to why I've had such an increase. I used to get about 1 virussed mail a month before I joined. Its irritating, but it would be naive of me to blame this list. Gavs -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM
Now that I also get about 150-200(!) Messages of 156KB Mails each day about half an hour(!) after my first posting to this list for the first time in my life I must admit that there IS something terribly wrong. Fact is that I subscribed to the list half a year ago. I also subscribed to OpenLDAP-, Courier-, and other mailing lists. I posted to these lists and I posted many times in the usenet some years ago. I agree that it is not the FAULT of the Samba team who runs this list, but the CAUSE of this behaviour may be due to the fact that the address of a subscriber is presented to the usenet (it is very likely). Maybe the exposure of an E-Mail link on the world wide web is also a potential cause for getting SPAM. The following script elegantly solves this issue, for example: script language=JavaScript !-- var prefix = foo; document.write(a title=\Send E-Mail\ href=\mailto:; + prefix + @bar.com\); document.write(prefix + [AT]bar.com/a); //-- /script Think. ;) -- Best regards, Bernhard Lukas Pericom Communication Consulting GmbH 1060 Wien, Mariahilfer Strasse 47/5/5 Tel. 01 585 64 90 - 63 Fax. 01 585 64 90 - 33 Web. www.pericom.at -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] RE: SPAM
(Paring the CC list a bit.) -Original Message- From: J. Frisbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not send messages to the list with machine parseable return addresess. Make the reply to address the mailing list, not the person who sent the message. This is a bad idea. See: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] RE: SPAM
-Original Message- From: Jim Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to agree with the others on the need for the mailing list to do something. I suspect the main culprit is the USENET gateway. Any post to USENET with a valid email address seems to immediately attract lots of virus traffic. Maybe it's time to eliminate the USENET gateway. If USENET wasn't dead before, it effectively is now, since posting to it results in an almost immediate mailbox DoS. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM
On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 02:39 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: I suspect the main culprit is the USENET gateway. Any post to USENET with a valid email address seems to immediately attract lots of virus traffic. Maybe it's time to eliminate the USENET gateway. If USENET wasn't dead before, it effectively is now, since posting to it results in an almost immediate mailbox DoS. I agree. Usenet these days is the domain of spammers and Warez postings. Ten years ago I used to spend hours a day on Linux and Samba (comp.os.protocols.smb) newsgroups, reading and replying to messages. That was back when there were maybe a couple of thousand newsgroups total. As the web grew, my use of Usenet has decreased, and I have not actively bothered to even setup a newsgroup reader in a couple of years. If I cannot find it in mailing list archives or a google search, I am usually not going to waste time in Usenet - with 30,000 or more groups on most Usenet servers today! I vote to kill the mailing list - Usenet gateway, if that is what is causing these virus email attacks on subscribers. If I wanted to use Usenet, I would go read comp.os.protocols.smb or whatever, directly! -- Jim Morris([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 02:27:10PM -0500, Jim Morris wrote: If people want to hide their return e-mail address to avoid this problem, they are free to do so. Just create something creative for your From:. Most decent e-mail clients will allow you to either change From: on an individual message *or* create different mail personalities. This is sensibly left to the user's choice. I can understand people getting frustrated at this cursed Swen virus and its effects to people who post on this list. But to keep things in perspective, it has only been a few weeks, and it should not be much longer before the virus starts dying down and becomes only a rarely seen bad memory. (Until the next outbreak, of course. All the more reason to not let your friends use Outlook.) Personally, I rather receive replies to my posts directly, and am happy with the configuration of the list. Even though my e-mail address has been made public through this list for a long time, Spam (in the form of UCE) has been light. This Swen virus has kept my inbox more active, but should be a temporary inconvenience. I have to agree with the others on the need for the mailing list to do something. I just posted to the Samba list for the first time in a couple of months, and since doing so, have gotten 3 or 4 dozen of these virus emails. And I run server based email filters - these are the ones that are getting through the filters! The viruses don't infect me, as I only read mail from Linux or Mac OS X, but they are clogging my inbox. The point is - I posted one question to this mailing list today, and in the 4 or 5 hours since, have averaged 10+ virus emails an hour. I am not sure what can be done though. The mails don't even have me as the To: address - instead I think they are getting BCC'ed to me by whoever on this list is infected. I would gladly forgo direct replies from this list, and have replies posted only to the list address, if it would eliminate the problem. In other words, the list would almost have to run with anonymous postings or something, for that to work. Obviously you would have to be a subscriber to post, but the emails would be stripped by the mailing list manager. -- Jim Morris([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 16:10, Jim Morris wrote: I vote to kill the mailing list - Usenet gateway, if that is what is causing these virus email attacks on subscribers. If I wanted to use Usenet, I would go read comp.os.protocols.smb or whatever, directly! I disagree. A Usenet search via Google Groups (used to be Deja News) is undoubtedly my most used and most useful troubleshooting and reference tool. In one step I can search for needed information without the need to know the name of the group that may contain the answer or answers. To remove the Samba list from such a search would, IMO, be a gross error. It may not be ideal but today I have taken the steps outlined in my sig. Although I have little doubt I will eventually need to change my email address as well. -- Chris Do not reply to the email address. Please use the contact page below for any desired direct replies. Apologies for the inconvenience. realcomputerguy dot com slash contact dot html -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] RE: SPAM
Just to further confirm the idea that this mailing list is associated with the current surge in receipts of the SWEN virus, I signed up for this list when I upgraded to Samba 2.2.3 on Oct 1. An hour later I began receiving mass quantities of SWEN-infected emails. TO date I've received 860 from the list, and 800 SWEN emails. Norton AV is catching them, I haven't become infected (and at this point I'm using Outlook XP on Windows 2000 but planning to switch soon.) However, I was most certainly NOT receiving ANY SWEN emails until I joined this list. I got 10 SWEN emails yesterday, 5 on the 12th, 92 on the 10th, with my highest count for a single day being something close to 140. More than just annoying, it made my main email addy for my company nearly useless until I configured a rule to move them to a separate folder... but even at that it costs me download time. I've been keeping them (Norton is configured to silently delete the payload) so I could keep track of the numbers of them per day. I don't mind the messages being gated to Usenet... seems to me that would be a valuable extension of the resources this list provides. HOWEVER, I do think the list owners need to recognize that this list IS proving to be a source of addresses for virus spammers. Objectively, I'm guessing that in the current political climate a case could be made for the idea that, having been notified their list is being targeted and should they do nothing to prevent further abuse, they could be partly liable for any damage occurring. Stripping emails of addresses or at LEAST putting up a warning on the signup page and providing an option to not have your email address listed to the world (not sure if that's there already or not) would do something for future subscribers to stem the raging tide of crap that's been streaming into my mailbox for the last 2 weeks... Just my 2 cents. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM On Tuesday 14 October 2003 16:10, Jim Morris wrote: I vote to kill the mailing list - Usenet gateway, if that is what is causing these virus email attacks on subscribers. If I wanted to use Usenet, I would go read comp.os.protocols.smb or whatever, directly! I disagree. A Usenet search via Google Groups (used to be Deja News) is undoubtedly my most used and most useful troubleshooting and reference tool. In one step I can search for needed information without the need to know the name of the group that may contain the answer or answers. To remove the Samba list from such a search would, IMO, be a gross error. It may not be ideal but today I have taken the steps outlined in my sig. Although I have little doubt I will eventually need to change my email address as well. -- Chris Do not reply to the email address. Please use the contact page below for any desired direct replies. Apologies for the inconvenience. realcomputerguy dot com slash contact dot html -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jared Rypka-Hauer wrote: | Objectively, I'm | guessing that in the current political climate a case | could be made for the idea that, having been notified | their list is being targeted and should they do | nothing to prevent further abuse, they could be partly | liable for any damage occurring. Jared, I'm not being vindictive here, but your email just got added to my /dev/null box. So please sue me. cheers, jerry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/jG9aIR7qMdg1EfYRAvCKAKC6v6KYA8nic4YeYQK3d9elIlYHFACg2Jfj nn9FUTb1XO//07+YhOxJ9CE= =Jq/O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM
Stripping emails of addresses or at LEAST putting up a warning on the signup page and providing an option to not have your email address listed to the world (not sure if that's there already or not) would do something for future subscribers to stem the raging tide of crap that's been streaming into my mailbox for the last 2 weeks... To be fair the warning would have to be general.. perhaps: Warning: you may recieve spam if using email, but Isn't that a bit like Warning: sticking a fork in this light socket may result in electrocution ? Spam sucks - get over it. Nate -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] RE: SPAM
I always wondered how much mindless, unthinking and thankless abuse it would take to provoke a response. On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 04:49:14PM -0500, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jared Rypka-Hauer wrote: | Objectively, I'm | guessing that in the current political climate a case | could be made for the idea that, having been notified | their list is being targeted and should they do | nothing to prevent further abuse, they could be partly | liable for any damage occurring. Jared, I'm not being vindictive here, but your email just got added to my /dev/null box. So please sue me. cheers, jerry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/jG9aIR7qMdg1EfYRAvCKAKC6v6KYA8nic4YeYQK3d9elIlYHFACg2Jfj nn9FUTb1XO//07+YhOxJ9CE= =Jq/O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
