Re: [Samba] Trust Domains ...

2002-06-06 Thread C.Lee Taylor

Greetings ...

After a little research (somebody did a bit or work ;-O ) with google and 
the replies to my questions, this what I think I understand and will test 
very soon ( Hope not to make an ass of myself. )

Andrew Bartlett wrote:
 Samba 2.2 supports being trusted by NT.  Its a bit odd, and mainly works
 due to the fact that domain logons and interdomain logons are almost
 exactly the same.  Not 'supported', and only works for NT domains with
 just a PDC.
Okay, I asked this question before, but got no responce, so I am going to 
ask again, but this time with a little more details from my side.

NT4sp6 PDC with Exchange 5.5sp4 host the mail ( and other resouces ) for my 
Linux domain.  I wish to setup a Trust domain.

If I understand this correctly, the NT4 domain needs to trust my Samba domain.

Now according to http://mordor.clayton.edu/samba-tng/tng-pdc-trust.html as 
my reference, I will need to setup a machine account for the DOMAIN, PDC 
and each of the BDC's and then in the User Manager setup the trust 
relationship.

This feel like I am missing something, because when a machine joins the 
domain, it normally needs root password ( which I don't wish to give to NT4 
Admin ) and now I don't see any password been setup here ... it just does 
not seem secure.  If I set my root password to something easy for the trust 
setup and make it secure afterwards would that not break the trust ...

As I said, it feel like I am missing something.  I have a funny feeling that 
my Samba server should join the NT4 domain, but then I don't see anything 
that says I have too.  What should the security option set too, because I 
have see a few errors in one of my domains that have a LDAP SAM, which I 
had to change the option until the errors went away without kill my 
network.  Once I get this right, I will get a friend to help document what 
I have done, maybe it could be tha basis for mini-howto or something. This 
all seems like too much.

Thanks for all the help everybody has given me.

Mailed
Lee


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Re: [Samba] Trust Domains ...

2002-06-06 Thread C.Lee Taylor

  
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Greetings ...

 After a little research (somebody did a bit or work ;-O ) with google and
the replies to my questions, this what I think I understand and will test
very soon ( Hope not to make an ass of myself. )

Andrew Bartlett wrote:
 Samba 2.2 supports being trusted by NT.  Its a bit odd, and mainly works
 due to the fact that domain logons and interdomain logons are almost
 exactly the same.  Not 'supported', and only works for NT domains with
 just a PDC.
 Okay, I asked this question before, but got no responce, so I am going to
ask again, but this time with a little more details from my side.

 NT4sp6 PDC with Exchange 5.5sp4 host the mail ( and other resouces ) for my
Linux domain.  I wish to setup a Trust domain.

 If I understand this correctly, the NT4 domain needs to trust my Samba
domain.

 Now according to http://mordor.clayton.edu/samba-tng/tng-pdc-trust.html as
my reference, I will need to setup a machine account for the DOMAIN, PDC
and each of the BDC's and then in the User Manager setup the trust
relationship.

 This feel like I am missing something, because when a machine joins the
domain, it normally needs root password ( which I don't wish to give to NT4
Admin ) and now I don't see any password been setup here ... it just does
not seem secure.  If I set my root password to something easy for the trust
setup and make it secure afterwards would that not break the trust ...

 As I said, it feel like I am missing something.  I have a funny feeling
that
my Samba server should join the NT4 domain, but then I don't see anything
that says I have too.  What should the security option set too, because I
have see a few errors in one of my domains that have a LDAP SAM, which I
had to change the option until the errors went away without kill my
network.  Once I get this right, I will get a friend to help document what
I have done, maybe it could be tha basis for mini-howto or something. This
all seems like too much.

 Thanks for all the help everybody has given me.

Mailed
Lee


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Re: [Samba] Trust Domains ...

2002-06-06 Thread C.Lee Taylor

  
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Greetings ...

 After a little research (somebody did a bit or work ;-O ) with google and
the replies to my questions, this what I think I understand and will test
very soon ( Hope not to make an ass of myself. )

Andrew Bartlett wrote:
 Samba 2.2 supports being trusted by NT.  Its a bit odd, and mainly works
 due to the fact that domain logons and interdomain logons are almost
 exactly the same.  Not 'supported', and only works for NT domains with
 just a PDC.
 Okay, I asked this question before, but got no responce, so I am going to
ask again, but this time with a little more details from my side.

 NT4sp6 PDC with Exchange 5.5sp4 host the mail ( and other resouces ) for my
Linux domain.  I wish to setup a Trust domain.

 If I understand this correctly, the NT4 domain needs to trust my Samba
domain.

 Now according to http://mordor.clayton.edu/samba-tng/tng-pdc-trust.html as
my reference, I will need to setup a machine account for the DOMAIN, PDC
and each of the BDC's and then in the User Manager setup the trust
relationship.

 This feel like I am missing something, because when a machine joins the
domain, it normally needs root password ( which I don't wish to give to NT4
Admin ) and now I don't see any password been setup here ... it just does
not seem secure.  If I set my root password to something easy for the trust
setup and make it secure afterwards would that not break the trust ...

 As I said, it feel like I am missing something.  I have a funny feeling
that
my Samba server should join the NT4 domain, but then I don't see anything
that says I have too.  What should the security option set too, because I
have see a few errors in one of my domains that have a LDAP SAM, which I
had to change the option until the errors went away without kill my
network.  Once I get this right, I will get a friend to help document what
I have done, maybe it could be tha basis for mini-howto or something. This
all seems like too much.

 Thanks for all the help everybody has given me.

Mailed
Lee


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RE: [Samba] Trust Domains ...

2002-06-05 Thread Gerald Carter

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, WEBSTER, Greg wrote:

 
 This may be an impossible question, and I don't mean to be a mean
 taskmaster, but what kind of timeframe are we looking at for a 3.x release?
 Our office is a mongrelmix of Linux, W2k, and NT and while we are definitely
 not going to go to an XP environment, we would like to increase linux usage
 on the backend. Some of the connectivity to W2k that you talk about here
 would go a long way to that.

No exact ETA.  Right now we are looking in the Fall of this year.






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Re: [Samba] Trust Domains ...

2002-06-05 Thread C.Lee Taylor

Thanks all for responding, it seems my digest samba mail had a virus, so I 
did not get to read all the reply (I am sure there were many ;-) )


Andrew Bartlett wrote:
 Sylvestre Taburet wrote:
 
Le Mardi 4 Juin 2002 15:23, C.Lee Taylor a écrit :

Greetings ...

  Please could someone confirm that Samba 2.2.x and Samba 3.0 ( Head ) does
not support Trusts between domains.


2.2.X doesn't, 3.0 will, though I don't know if CVS version does it yet.

It should be possible with TNG, but I never tried:
http://mordor.clayton.edu/samba-tng/tng-pdc-trust.html
Will look at this if all else does not work ...

 I understand it goes like this:
Kewl ...

 Samba 2.2 supports being trusted by NT.  Its a bit odd, and mainly works
 due to the fact that domain logons and interdomain logons are almost
 exactly the same.  Not 'supported', and only works for NT domains with
 just a PDC.
Okay, I hope nobody minds me asking a few question ...

I have DOMA, which is an NT4 domain with Exchange 5.5, DOMB is my little 
Linux server with Samba 2.2.x ( hoping to use 2.2.5 ).  If I understand 
this, DOMA needs to trust DOMB so that the users in DOMB can access their 
mail in the DOMA Exchange server?  Am I right? And would this work?

 Samba HEAD has support for both being trusted by NT and trusting NT.  We
 don't support doing anything with Win2k ATM.  Trusting NT is still a
 work in progress, but we have shown the basic concepts.
I don't really wish to play with Samba Head, but I love to learn ...

 Samba TNG claims support for being trusted, but I've not tested it
 myself.  You will need current CVS - TNG was able to pick up some of
 HEAD's work in this area to get around some nasty bugs.  Samba-TNG
 trusting NT domains is a bit dodgy, becouse you need to setup the
 'username map' manually.
I don't really wish to play with TNG, but I love to learn ...

Thanks guys.
Mailed
Lee


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Re: [Samba] Trust Domains ...

2002-06-04 Thread Sylvestre Taburet

Le Mardi 4 Juin 2002 15:23, C.Lee Taylor a écrit :
 Greetings ...

   Please could someone confirm that Samba 2.2.x and Samba 3.0 ( Head ) does
 not support Trusts between domains.


2.2.X doesn't, 3.0 will, though I don't know if CVS version does it yet.

It should be possible with TNG, but I never tried:
http://mordor.clayton.edu/samba-tng/tng-pdc-trust.html

 Thanks
 Mailed
 Lee

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