RE: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-30 Thread Marc Fromm
The old server that allows the Mac to use the symbolic link to the /var/www 
directory does not have the unix extensions = no in its smb.conf file, thus I 
must assume it is using the default yes setting as well.

Any idea as to how the old server is letting the Mac use the symbolic link, 
with the unix extensions = yes setting?
Why do other symbolic links work on the Mac that is connecting to the new 
server that cannot follow the www symbolic link?

-Original Message-
From: James Peach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:42 AM
To: Marc Fromm
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008/10/29 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
(unix extensions = no)
 My smb.conf does not contain unix extensions option.

unix extensions = yes is the default that will be used if smb.conf
does not specify otherwise

 Is this a setting on the mac that I need to change?

you need to change it on the server

 If you want the server to follow the symlink instead, you have to turn off 
 unix extension support
 I'm not sure about the above comment. On the server I can follow the symbolic 
 link to the
 www directory, it only does not work when a Mac makes a samba connection and 
 on the
 Mac I try to go to the www directory.

Because the target of the symlink is a location on the server. When
the Mac client tries to resolve the symlink, it will try to access the
corresponding location on the client.

If you turn the unix extensions support off, then the server will
follow the symlink and the Mac will behave just like the Windows
clients



 -Original Message-
 From: James Peach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:40 PM
 To: Marc Fromm
 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

 2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
 Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems, including 
 symbolic links to the www directory.
 Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to the www 
 directory.
 On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that cannot be 
 followed.
 These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a symbolic link 
 on our Fedora Core 5 server.

 The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
 symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
 symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
 extensions = no).


 Since the www symbolic link works on a PC that sambas to the Red Hat server, 
 is this strictly a problem on the macs or is there a setting I need to 
 change in a conf file on the Red Hat server, since the same Macs can use the 
 symbolic link to the www directory on the Fedora server?

 Thanks

 Marc

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Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-29 Thread Mike Gallamore
We had a similar problem. To fix it we added to our global section of  
smb.conf:

follow symlinks = yes

Mac 10.5.X is supposed to have the unix extensions but we found when  
we enabled them we broke clients running older versions. So we also  
have:


unix extensions = no

set. Hope this helps.
On Oct 29, 2008, at 5:19 AM, James Peach wrote:


2008/10/28 Kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Can some one clarify that statement a little more for the hard at  
learning
please? Do you mean the MAC is using the SAMBA symlink and  
attempting to

follow it to a location on its local disk?


Yes. Because Windows clients do not understand the SMB protocol
extension the Mac uses in this case, the server follows the symlink on
their behalf (to a location on the server's disk).



The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow  
the symlink
on the client side. If you want the server to follow the symlink  
instead,

you have to turn off unix extension support (unix extensions = no).


Kind Regards

Kyle



James Peach wrote:


2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems,
including symbolic links to the www directory.
Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to  
the www

directory.
On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that  
cannot

be followed.
These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a  
symbolic

link on our Fedora Core 5 server.



The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
extensions = no).





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RE: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-29 Thread Marc Fromm
(unix extensions = no)
My smb.conf does not contain unix extensions option.
Is this a setting on the mac that I need to change?

 If you want the server to follow the symlink instead, you have to turn off 
 unix extension support
I'm not sure about the above comment. On the server I can follow the symbolic 
link to the www directory, it only does not work when a Mac makes a samba 
connection and on the Mac I try to go to the www directory.

-Original Message-
From: James Peach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:40 PM
To: Marc Fromm
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
 Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems, including 
 symbolic links to the www directory.
 Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to the www 
 directory.
 On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that cannot be 
 followed.
 These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a symbolic link 
 on our Fedora Core 5 server.

The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
extensions = no).


 Since the www symbolic link works on a PC that sambas to the Red Hat server, 
 is this strictly a problem on the macs or is there a setting I need to change 
 in a conf file on the Red Hat server, since the same Macs can use the 
 symbolic link to the www directory on the Fedora server?

 Thanks

 Marc

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Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-29 Thread Mike Gallamore
Leopard tries to be nice and follow the symlink on the client side.  
The problem we ran into was that the client wasn't mounting the target  
of the symlink, the server was. The unix extensions and follow symlink  
options as below forces the server to do the symlink following not the  
client (which might not have the target mapped). Alternatively, but a  
messy solution, you could map all the target locations of the symlinks  
to the client, in exactly the same path so that the client side can do  
the work, not pretty because it makes the clients dependent on the  
servers layout.

On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Marc Fromm wrote:


(unix extensions = no)

My smb.conf does not contain unix extensions option.
Is this a setting on the mac that I need to change?

If you want the server to follow the symlink instead, you have to  
turn off unix extension support
I'm not sure about the above comment. On the server I can follow the  
symbolic link to the www directory, it only does not work when a Mac  
makes a samba connection and on the Mac I try to go to the www  
directory.


-Original Message-
From: James Peach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:40 PM
To: Marc Fromm
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems,  
including symbolic links to the www directory.
Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to  
the www directory.
On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that  
cannot be followed.
These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a  
symbolic link on our Fedora Core 5 server.


The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
extensions = no).



Since the www symbolic link works on a PC that sambas to the Red  
Hat server, is this strictly a problem on the macs or is there a  
setting I need to change in a conf file on the Red Hat server,  
since the same Macs can use the symbolic link to the www directory  
on the Fedora server?


Thanks

Marc

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Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-29 Thread James Peach
2008/10/29 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
(unix extensions = no)
 My smb.conf does not contain unix extensions option.

unix extensions = yes is the default that will be used if smb.conf
does not specify otherwise

 Is this a setting on the mac that I need to change?

you need to change it on the server

 If you want the server to follow the symlink instead, you have to turn off 
 unix extension support
 I'm not sure about the above comment. On the server I can follow the symbolic 
 link to the
 www directory, it only does not work when a Mac makes a samba connection and 
 on the
 Mac I try to go to the www directory.

Because the target of the symlink is a location on the server. When
the Mac client tries to resolve the symlink, it will try to access the
corresponding location on the client.

If you turn the unix extensions support off, then the server will
follow the symlink and the Mac will behave just like the Windows
clients



 -Original Message-
 From: James Peach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:40 PM
 To: Marc Fromm
 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

 2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
 Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems, including 
 symbolic links to the www directory.
 Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to the www 
 directory.
 On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that cannot be 
 followed.
 These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a symbolic link 
 on our Fedora Core 5 server.

 The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
 symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
 symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
 extensions = no).


 Since the www symbolic link works on a PC that sambas to the Red Hat server, 
 is this strictly a problem on the macs or is there a setting I need to 
 change in a conf file on the Red Hat server, since the same Macs can use the 
 symbolic link to the www directory on the Fedora server?

 Thanks

 Marc

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Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-28 Thread James Peach
2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
 Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems, including 
 symbolic links to the www directory.
 Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to the www 
 directory.
 On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that cannot be 
 followed.
 These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a symbolic link 
 on our Fedora Core 5 server.

The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
extensions = no).


 Since the www symbolic link works on a PC that sambas to the Red Hat server, 
 is this strictly a problem on the macs or is there a setting I need to change 
 in a conf file on the Red Hat server, since the same Macs can use the 
 symbolic link to the www directory on the Fedora server?

 Thanks

 Marc

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Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-28 Thread Kyle


Can some one clarify that statement a little more for the hard at 
learning please? Do you mean the MAC is using the SAMBA symlink and 
attempting to follow it to a location on its local disk?


The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the 
symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the symlink 
instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix extensions = 
no).



Kind Regards

Kyle



James Peach wrote:

2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems, including 
symbolic links to the www directory.
Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to the www 
directory.
On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that cannot be 
followed.
These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a symbolic link on 
our Fedora Core 5 server.



The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
extensions = no).


  

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Re: [Samba] mac os 10.5.5 and symbolic link to www

2008-10-28 Thread James Peach
2008/10/28 Kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Can some one clarify that statement a little more for the hard at learning
 please? Do you mean the MAC is using the SAMBA symlink and attempting to
 follow it to a location on its local disk?

Yes. Because Windows clients do not understand the SMB protocol
extension the Mac uses in this case, the server follows the symlink on
their behalf (to a location on the server's disk).


 The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the symlink
 on the client side. If you want the server to follow the symlink instead,
 you have to turn off unix extension support (unix extensions = no).

 
 Kind Regards

 Kyle



 James Peach wrote:

 2008/10/28 Marc Fromm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 We have a new server running Red Hat 5.2EL.
 Windows machines can samba to the linux server with no problems,
 including symbolic links to the www directory.
 Our Mac OS 10.5.5 machines have a problem with symbolic links to the www
 directory.
 On the Mac computers, the symbolic links show up as an alias that cannot
 be followed.
 These same MAC computers can samba to the www directory via a symbolic
 link on our Fedora Core 5 server.


 The Mac is almost certainly using the unix extensions to follow the
 symlink on the client side. If you want the server to follow the
 symlink instead, you have to turn off unix extension support (unix
 extensions = no).




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