Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 09:49 -0500, Jason Voorhees wrote:
 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Müller muel...@tropenklinik.de 
 wrote:
  IN a such great environment like yours I would suggest having several PDCs
  in replication mode.
 Is this possible to implement with Samba 3.x?

Yes, *painfully*.  Use Samba4 and create an Active Directory domain.  It
is *much* smoother, less work, and more feature complete.  Not to
mention that Samba3/NT4 domains support is in support twilight;  is is
very much time to move on.

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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-27 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 15:56 +0200, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
 Hai, 
 
 Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your 
 only option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point.. 
 
 About above, is it still posible to replicate the samba ad/ldap to other 
 ldap servers ( without samba ), 
 and will openldap be a supported backend in the future. 

No, the OpenLDAP backend was a dead end development wise for the AD DC.
We couldn't make it work fully, and it won't be revived because it is
(essentially) incompatible with DRS replication and needs the AD schema
anyway.  

Because we are tied to AD schema and behaviour, using a different LDAP
server simply doesn't bring us any significant gains.

Andrew Bartlett

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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-27 Thread Andrew Bartlett
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 09:48 -0500, Jason Voorhees wrote:
 Hi, thanks for your reply:
 
 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Aaron E. ssures...@gmail.com wrote:
  First, I'm not sure if your speaking of samba4 or just upgrading your s3
  domain structure .. my comments are based on samba4 hope it helps ..
 
 
 Actually I was thinking about using a stable version of Samba like
 3.x. I know that Samba 4 is still being developed for many years. Do
 you really suggest me to use this alpha version of Samba4 for a
 critical environment like the one I described? It would be great to
 have an Open Source ADS implementation with Samba4 but for now I think
 I can just get as much as possible of features that Samba 3.x can
 offer me.

The problem with deploying a Samba3 DC is that you cannot use group
policies in that version.  Only an AD DC can do that - which is one of
the major reasons we have done it. 

  Policies: -- Group policy works with S4.. So whatever group policies you can
  set in windows DC you can set on the S4 dcs..
 
 
 What tool do you use for edit/create policies? I was reading a little
 about the native MS Windows 2000 tool for policy editing but if you
 suggest me to use Samba4 I believe you could recommend me to use the
 Windows 2003/2008 policy editor or something like that?

You use the Microsoft management tools, just as if you were running a
headless AD DC from Microsoft.  Searching for the 'Remote server
administration tools' and you should find it. 

  Scalability -- 1PDC and several BDCs would be your answer. Essentially your
  going to create the same infrastructure as you would with the windows family
  of servers. unstead of multiple pdc's you'd use bdc's at in different
  vlans.. or RODC's but I am not sure where the RODC's are in terms of
  completeness.
 
 
 I'm sorry but I have never heard about RODCs before. Are they read
 only primary or backup domain controller? How do they work?

The major gap on RODCs at the moment is that we need to record the
attributes that we replicate to the RODC.  We don't do that at the
moment. 

  Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your only
  option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point..
 
  Compatability -- there are no special steps in joining windows 7 or 2008
  servers to the S4 domain..
 
  There is an upgrade script that should pull your users and computers to the
  new domain, obviously this would require extensive testing in your
  environment.
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for all
 
  On 05/20/2012 11:32 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:
 

  Compatibility:
  ===
  - I know that are some procedures to join Windows 7 to Samba domain, I
  did this before successfully. Do you know -maybe- of another possible
  compatibility problem that you suggest I can be prepared for?
  - If after some time (weeks, months or years) I plan to replace this
  Samba based domain to Windows 2k ADS domain: is it possible to do this
  migration without problem? it isn't necessary to reinstall all the
  domain and rejoin all the workstation?

If you were to go with Samba 3.x, then you could upgrade to Samba4.
Some folks have used this as a path to Microsoft's AD.   However, the
upgrade will only consider the Samba account details, not the full
directory LDAP directory structure.  

If you want AD, then go with Samba 4.0.  We hope to release a beta very
soon, now that we have integrated the new file server.  While we provide
tools for the upgrade, it is much easier to just start with that than to
upgrade to it, because you will develop tools and procedures for
modifying the LDAP directory, and many of these would need to be
rewritten, and adapted the the new schema. 

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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-25 Thread Jason Voorhees
Hi, thanks for your reply:

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Aaron E. ssures...@gmail.com wrote:
 First, I'm not sure if your speaking of samba4 or just upgrading your s3
 domain structure .. my comments are based on samba4 hope it helps ..


Actually I was thinking about using a stable version of Samba like
3.x. I know that Samba 4 is still being developed for many years. Do
you really suggest me to use this alpha version of Samba4 for a
critical environment like the one I described? It would be great to
have an Open Source ADS implementation with Samba4 but for now I think
I can just get as much as possible of features that Samba 3.x can
offer me.

 Policies: -- Group policy works with S4.. So whatever group policies you can
 set in windows DC you can set on the S4 dcs..


What tool do you use for edit/create policies? I was reading a little
about the native MS Windows 2000 tool for policy editing but if you
suggest me to use Samba4 I believe you could recommend me to use the
Windows 2003/2008 policy editor or something like that?


 Scalability -- 1PDC and several BDCs would be your answer. Essentially your
 going to create the same infrastructure as you would with the windows family
 of servers. unstead of multiple pdc's you'd use bdc's at in different
 vlans.. or RODC's but I am not sure where the RODC's are in terms of
 completeness.


I'm sorry but I have never heard about RODCs before. Are they read
only primary or backup domain controller? How do they work?

 Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your only
 option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point..

 Compatability -- there are no special steps in joining windows 7 or 2008
 servers to the S4 domain..

 There is an upgrade script that should pull your users and computers to the
 new domain, obviously this would require extensive testing in your
 environment.




Thanks for all

 On 05/20/2012 11:32 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:

 Hi people:

 I've been using Samba for a long time with some basic features like
 Samba working as a PDC, integrated with OpenLDAP, being a print
 server, among others, for a small number of almost controlled users
 (no more than 30 or 50 users).

 But now I'm interested to implement a Windows domain using Samba for a
 University with 6000-8000 users distributed through several VLANs,
 subnets, offices in a medium/big campus. I'd like to avoid using a
 propietary solution like Windows 2008 with ADS so I'd like to know
 some suggestions like these:

 Policies:
 ===
 - How well can Samba manage policies for workstations?
 - Is it easy or safe to apply and/or remove policies from workstations?
 - What kind of things can I allow or deny from succeding in
 workstations using policies? For example: could I avoid users from
 changing the IP address of the workstation? Could I set a fixed
 wallpaper or internet explorer proxy settings to workstations?

 Scalability
 
 In a big scenario like the previous i mentioned:
 - How many BDCs would be needed? Is it enough to have 1 PDC and severals
 BDCs?
 - Is it possible to have multiple PDCs of the same domain each one
 being in a different VLAN? or, what's the right approach in terms of
 structure-architecture to implement PDCs and BDCs?

 Backend
 ===
 Definitely I plan to use OpenLDAP as backend but, similar to the
 previous question about BDCs: how many Master/Slave OpenLDAP servers
 do you think it would be necessary? It could be 1 BDC+OpenLDAP (slave
 or master) for each office or VLAN?

 Compatibility:
 ===
 - I know that are some procedures to join Windows 7 to Samba domain, I
 did this before successfully. Do you know -maybe- of another possible
 compatibility problem that you suggest I can be prepared for?
 - If after some time (weeks, months or years) I plan to replace this
 Samba based domain to Windows 2k ADS domain: is it possible to do this
 migration without problem? it isn't necessary to reinstall all the
 domain and rejoin all the workstation?

 Technically I can investigate how to implement each of these features
 (policies, BDCs, openldap, etc...) but before taking a decision like
 this i would like to have some suggestions of people that have done
 similar implementations before. This help it would be excellent for
 me, I hope some one can help.

 Thanks



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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-25 Thread Jason Voorhees
Hi:

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Müller muel...@tropenklinik.de wrote:
 IN a such great environment like yours I would suggest having several PDCs
 in replication mode.


Is this possible to implement with Samba 3.x?


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 Betreff: Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

 First, I'm not sure if your speaking of samba4 or just upgrading your s3
 domain structure .. my comments are based on samba4 hope it helps ..

 Policies: -- Group policy works with S4.. So whatever group policies you can
 set in windows DC you can set on the S4 dcs..

 Scalability -- 1PDC and several BDCs would be your answer. Essentially your
 going to create the same infrastructure as you would with the windows family
 of servers. unstead of multiple pdc's you'd use bdc's at in different
 vlans.. or RODC's but I am not sure where the RODC's are in terms of
 completeness.

 Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your only
 option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point..

 Compatability -- there are no special steps in joining windows 7 or 2008
 servers to the S4 domain..

 There is an upgrade script that should pull your users and computers to the
 new domain, obviously this would require extensive testing in your
 environment.



 On 05/20/2012 11:32 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:
 Hi people:

 I've been using Samba for a long time with some basic features like
 Samba working as a PDC, integrated with OpenLDAP, being a print
 server, among others, for a small number of almost controlled users
 (no more than 30 or 50 users).

 But now I'm interested to implement a Windows domain using Samba for a
 University with 6000-8000 users distributed through several VLANs,
 subnets, offices in a medium/big campus. I'd like to avoid using a
 propietary solution like Windows 2008 with ADS so I'd like to know
 some suggestions like these:

 Policies:
 ===
 - How well can Samba manage policies for workstations?
 - Is it easy or safe to apply and/or remove policies from workstations?
 - What kind of things can I allow or deny from succeding in
 workstations using policies? For example: could I avoid users from
 changing the IP address of the workstation? Could I set a fixed
 wallpaper or internet explorer proxy settings to workstations?

 Scalability
 
 In a big scenario like the previous i mentioned:
 - How many BDCs would be needed? Is it enough to have 1 PDC and severals
 BDCs?
 - Is it possible to have multiple PDCs of the same domain each one
 being in a different VLAN? or, what's the right approach in terms of
 structure-architecture to implement PDCs and BDCs?

 Backend
 ===
 Definitely I plan to use OpenLDAP as backend but, similar to the
 previous question about BDCs: how many Master/Slave OpenLDAP servers
 do you think it would be necessary? It could be 1 BDC+OpenLDAP (slave
 or master) for each office or VLAN?

 Compatibility:
 ===
 - I know that are some procedures to join Windows 7 to Samba domain, I
 did this before successfully. Do you know -maybe- of another possible
 compatibility problem that you suggest I can be prepared for?
 - If after some time (weeks, months or years) I plan to replace this
 Samba based domain to Windows 2k ADS domain: is it possible to do this
 migration without problem? it isn't necessary to reinstall all the
 domain and rejoin all the workstation?

 Technically I can investigate how to implement each of these features
 (policies, BDCs, openldap, etc...) but before taking a decision like
 this i would like to have some suggestions of people that have done
 similar implementations before. This help it would be excellent for
 me, I hope some one can help.

 Thanks


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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-25 Thread Jorell

On 5/25/2012 7:48 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:

Hi, thanks for your reply:

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Aaron E.ssures...@gmail.com  wrote:

First, I'm not sure if your speaking of samba4 or just upgrading your s3
domain structure .. my comments are based on samba4 hope it helps ..



Actually I was thinking about using a stable version of Samba like
3.x. I know that Samba 4 is still being developed for many years. Do
you really suggest me to use this alpha version of Samba4 for a
critical environment like the one I described? It would be great to
have an Open Source ADS implementation with Samba4 but for now I think
I can just get as much as possible of features that Samba 3.x can
offer me.


From reading the mailing list, people using S4 for it's Active 
Directory have had great success, it's when they try to use the file 
server side of things is when they have problems.

Also Samba 4 ADS is interchangeable with Windows Server ADS.



Policies: -- Group policy works with S4.. So whatever group policies you can
set in windows DC you can set on the S4 dcs..



What tool do you use for edit/create policies? I was reading a little
about the native MS Windows 2000 tool for policy editing but if you
suggest me to use Samba4 I believe you could recommend me to use the
Windows 2003/2008 policy editor or something like that?

To manage group policies you install Group Policy Management Console 
(gpmc.msi) on a windows workstation connected to the domain.



Scalability -- 1PDC and several BDCs would be your answer. Essentially your
going to create the same infrastructure as you would with the windows family
of servers. unstead of multiple pdc's you'd use bdc's at in different
vlans.. or RODC's but I am not sure where the RODC's are in terms of
completeness.



I'm sorry but I have never heard about RODCs before. Are they read
only primary or backup domain controller? How do they work?


Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your only
option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point..

Compatability -- there are no special steps in joining windows 7 or 2008
servers to the S4 domain..

There is an upgrade script that should pull your users and computers to the
new domain, obviously this would require extensive testing in your
environment.





Thanks for all


On 05/20/2012 11:32 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:


Hi people:

I've been using Samba for a long time with some basic features like
Samba working as a PDC, integrated with OpenLDAP, being a print
server, among others, for a small number of almost controlled users
(no more than 30 or 50 users).

But now I'm interested to implement a Windows domain using Samba for a
University with 6000-8000 users distributed through several VLANs,
subnets, offices in a medium/big campus. I'd like to avoid using a
propietary solution like Windows 2008 with ADS so I'd like to know
some suggestions like these:

Policies:
===
- How well can Samba manage policies for workstations?
- Is it easy or safe to apply and/or remove policies from workstations?
- What kind of things can I allow or deny from succeding in
workstations using policies? For example: could I avoid users from
changing the IP address of the workstation? Could I set a fixed
wallpaper or internet explorer proxy settings to workstations?

Scalability

In a big scenario like the previous i mentioned:
- How many BDCs would be needed? Is it enough to have 1 PDC and severals
BDCs?
- Is it possible to have multiple PDCs of the same domain each one
being in a different VLAN? or, what's the right approach in terms of
structure-architecture to implement PDCs and BDCs?

Backend
===
Definitely I plan to use OpenLDAP as backend but, similar to the
previous question about BDCs: how many Master/Slave OpenLDAP servers
do you think it would be necessary? It could be 1 BDC+OpenLDAP (slave
or master) for each office or VLAN?

Compatibility:
===
- I know that are some procedures to join Windows 7 to Samba domain, I
did this before successfully. Do you know -maybe- of another possible
compatibility problem that you suggest I can be prepared for?
- If after some time (weeks, months or years) I plan to replace this
Samba based domain to Windows 2k ADS domain: is it possible to do this
migration without problem? it isn't necessary to reinstall all the
domain and rejoin all the workstation?

Technically I can investigate how to implement each of these features
(policies, BDCs, openldap, etc...) but before taking a decision like
this i would like to have some suggestions of people that have done
similar implementations before. This help it would be excellent for
me, I hope some one can help.

Thanks




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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-25 Thread Lukasz Zalewski

Hi Jorell,
On 25/05/12 16:57, Jorell wrote:

On 5/25/2012 7:48 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:

Hi, thanks for your reply:

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Aaron E.ssures...@gmail.com wrote:

First, I'm not sure if your speaking of samba4 or just upgrading your s3
domain structure .. my comments are based on samba4 hope it helps ..



Actually I was thinking about using a stable version of Samba like
3.x. I know that Samba 4 is still being developed for many years. Do
you really suggest me to use this alpha version of Samba4 for a
critical environment like the one I described? It would be great to
have an Open Source ADS implementation with Samba4 but for now I think
I can just get as much as possible of features that Samba 3.x can
offer me.

 
 From reading the mailing list, people using S4 for it's Active
Directory have had great success, it's when they try to use the file
server side of things is when they have problems.
Also Samba 4 ADS is interchangeable with Windows Server ADS.


We have been running samba4 in production environment for almost two 
years. Our setup is quite basic, single S4 DC, and s3 member servers for 
file serving and printing.

We have ~300 pc's (almost all Windows 7) and ~2500 users

But you probably will need more elaborate setup.




Policies: -- Group policy works with S4.. So whatever group policies
you can
set in windows DC you can set on the S4 dcs..



What tool do you use for edit/create policies? I was reading a little
about the native MS Windows 2000 tool for policy editing but if you
suggest me to use Samba4 I believe you could recommend me to use the
Windows 2003/2008 policy editor or something like that?


To manage group policies you install Group Policy Management Console
(gpmc.msi) on a windows workstation connected to the domain.

Windows RAT will do the trick:
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO#Step_1:_Installing_Windows_Remote_Administration_Tools_onto_Windows




Scalability -- 1PDC and several BDCs would be your answer.
Essentially your
going to create the same infrastructure as you would with the windows
family
of servers. unstead of multiple pdc's you'd use bdc's at in different
vlans.. or RODC's but I am not sure where the RODC's are in terms of
completeness.



I'm sorry but I have never heard about RODCs before. Are they read
only primary or backup domain controller? How do they work?


Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that
your only
option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point..

Compatability -- there are no special steps in joining windows 7 or 2008
servers to the S4 domain..

There is an upgrade script that should pull your users and computers
to the
new domain, obviously this would require extensive testing in your
environment.





Thanks for all


On 05/20/2012 11:32 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:


Hi people:

I've been using Samba for a long time with some basic features like
Samba working as a PDC, integrated with OpenLDAP, being a print
server, among others, for a small number of almost controlled users
(no more than 30 or 50 users).

But now I'm interested to implement a Windows domain using Samba for a
University with 6000-8000 users distributed through several VLANs,
subnets, offices in a medium/big campus. I'd like to avoid using a
propietary solution like Windows 2008 with ADS so I'd like to know
some suggestions like these:

Policies:
===
- How well can Samba manage policies for workstations?
- Is it easy or safe to apply and/or remove policies from workstations?
- What kind of things can I allow or deny from succeding in
workstations using policies? For example: could I avoid users from
changing the IP address of the workstation? Could I set a fixed
wallpaper or internet explorer proxy settings to workstations?

Scalability

In a big scenario like the previous i mentioned:
- How many BDCs would be needed? Is it enough to have 1 PDC and
severals
BDCs?
- Is it possible to have multiple PDCs of the same domain each one
being in a different VLAN? or, what's the right approach in terms of
structure-architecture to implement PDCs and BDCs?

Backend
===
Definitely I plan to use OpenLDAP as backend but, similar to the
previous question about BDCs: how many Master/Slave OpenLDAP servers
do you think it would be necessary? It could be 1 BDC+OpenLDAP (slave
or master) for each office or VLAN?

Compatibility:
===
- I know that are some procedures to join Windows 7 to Samba domain, I
did this before successfully. Do you know -maybe- of another possible
compatibility problem that you suggest I can be prepared for?
- If after some time (weeks, months or years) I plan to replace this
Samba based domain to Windows 2k ADS domain: is it possible to do this
migration without problem? it isn't necessary to reinstall all the
domain and rejoin all the workstation?

Technically I can investigate how to implement each of these features
(policies, BDCs, openldap, etc...) but before taking a 

Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-25 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 09:49:12AM -0500, Jason Voorhees wrote:
 Hi:
 
 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Müller muel...@tropenklinik.de 
 wrote:
  IN a such great environment like yours I would suggest having several PDCs
  in replication mode.
 
 
 Is this possible to implement with Samba 3.x?

Sure, use openldap as a backend and replicate. Been a while
since I had anything to do with that but that's how it's
traditionally been done.

Jeremy.
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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-25 Thread steve

On 05/25/2012 06:26 PM, Lukasz Zalewski wrote:

Hi Jorell,
On 25/05/12 16:57, Jorell wrote:

On 5/25/2012 7:48 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:
To manage group policies you install Group Policy Management Console
(gpmc.msi) on a windows workstation connected to the domain.



Hi
Is there Group Policy Management Console on a Linux DC? Without being 
an LDAP expert that is.

Cheers,
Steve

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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-21 Thread Aaron E.
First, I'm not sure if your speaking of samba4 or just upgrading your s3 
domain structure .. my comments are based on samba4 hope it helps ..


Policies: -- Group policy works with S4.. So whatever group policies you 
can set in windows DC you can set on the S4 dcs..


Scalability -- 1PDC and several BDCs would be your answer. Essentially 
your going to create the same infrastructure as you would with the 
windows family of servers. unstead of multiple pdc's you'd use bdc's at 
in different vlans.. or RODC's but I am not sure where the RODC's are in 
terms of completeness.


Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your 
only option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point..


Compatability -- there are no special steps in joining windows 7 or 2008 
servers to the S4 domain..


There is an upgrade script that should pull your users and computers to 
the new domain, obviously this would require extensive testing in your 
environment.




On 05/20/2012 11:32 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:

Hi people:

I've been using Samba for a long time with some basic features like
Samba working as a PDC, integrated with OpenLDAP, being a print
server, among others, for a small number of almost controlled users
(no more than 30 or 50 users).

But now I'm interested to implement a Windows domain using Samba for a
University with 6000-8000 users distributed through several VLANs,
subnets, offices in a medium/big campus. I'd like to avoid using a
propietary solution like Windows 2008 with ADS so I'd like to know
some suggestions like these:

Policies:
===
- How well can Samba manage policies for workstations?
- Is it easy or safe to apply and/or remove policies from workstations?
- What kind of things can I allow or deny from succeding in
workstations using policies? For example: could I avoid users from
changing the IP address of the workstation? Could I set a fixed
wallpaper or internet explorer proxy settings to workstations?

Scalability

In a big scenario like the previous i mentioned:
- How many BDCs would be needed? Is it enough to have 1 PDC and severals BDCs?
- Is it possible to have multiple PDCs of the same domain each one
being in a different VLAN? or, what's the right approach in terms of
structure-architecture to implement PDCs and BDCs?

Backend
===
Definitely I plan to use OpenLDAP as backend but, similar to the
previous question about BDCs: how many Master/Slave OpenLDAP servers
do you think it would be necessary? It could be 1 BDC+OpenLDAP (slave
or master) for each office or VLAN?

Compatibility:
===
- I know that are some procedures to join Windows 7 to Samba domain, I
did this before successfully. Do you know -maybe- of another possible
compatibility problem that you suggest I can be prepared for?
- If after some time (weeks, months or years) I plan to replace this
Samba based domain to Windows 2k ADS domain: is it possible to do this
migration without problem? it isn't necessary to reinstall all the
domain and rejoin all the workstation?

Technically I can investigate how to implement each of these features
(policies, BDCs, openldap, etc...) but before taking a decision like
this i would like to have some suggestions of people that have done
similar implementations before. This help it would be excellent for
me, I hope some one can help.

Thanks



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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-21 Thread Daniel Müller
IN a such great environment like yours I would suggest having several PDCs
in replication mode.

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First, I'm not sure if your speaking of samba4 or just upgrading your s3
domain structure .. my comments are based on samba4 hope it helps ..

Policies: -- Group policy works with S4.. So whatever group policies you can
set in windows DC you can set on the S4 dcs..

Scalability -- 1PDC and several BDCs would be your answer. Essentially your
going to create the same infrastructure as you would with the windows family
of servers. unstead of multiple pdc's you'd use bdc's at in different
vlans.. or RODC's but I am not sure where the RODC's are in terms of
completeness.

Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your only
option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point..

Compatability -- there are no special steps in joining windows 7 or 2008
servers to the S4 domain..

There is an upgrade script that should pull your users and computers to the
new domain, obviously this would require extensive testing in your
environment.



On 05/20/2012 11:32 AM, Jason Voorhees wrote:
 Hi people:

 I've been using Samba for a long time with some basic features like 
 Samba working as a PDC, integrated with OpenLDAP, being a print 
 server, among others, for a small number of almost controlled users 
 (no more than 30 or 50 users).

 But now I'm interested to implement a Windows domain using Samba for a 
 University with 6000-8000 users distributed through several VLANs, 
 subnets, offices in a medium/big campus. I'd like to avoid using a 
 propietary solution like Windows 2008 with ADS so I'd like to know 
 some suggestions like these:

 Policies:
 ===
 - How well can Samba manage policies for workstations?
 - Is it easy or safe to apply and/or remove policies from workstations?
 - What kind of things can I allow or deny from succeding in 
 workstations using policies? For example: could I avoid users from 
 changing the IP address of the workstation? Could I set a fixed 
 wallpaper or internet explorer proxy settings to workstations?

 Scalability
 
 In a big scenario like the previous i mentioned:
 - How many BDCs would be needed? Is it enough to have 1 PDC and severals
BDCs?
 - Is it possible to have multiple PDCs of the same domain each one 
 being in a different VLAN? or, what's the right approach in terms of 
 structure-architecture to implement PDCs and BDCs?

 Backend
 ===
 Definitely I plan to use OpenLDAP as backend but, similar to the 
 previous question about BDCs: how many Master/Slave OpenLDAP servers 
 do you think it would be necessary? It could be 1 BDC+OpenLDAP (slave 
 or master) for each office or VLAN?

 Compatibility:
 ===
 - I know that are some procedures to join Windows 7 to Samba domain, I 
 did this before successfully. Do you know -maybe- of another possible 
 compatibility problem that you suggest I can be prepared for?
 - If after some time (weeks, months or years) I plan to replace this 
 Samba based domain to Windows 2k ADS domain: is it possible to do this 
 migration without problem? it isn't necessary to reinstall all the 
 domain and rejoin all the workstation?

 Technically I can investigate how to implement each of these features 
 (policies, BDCs, openldap, etc...) but before taking a decision like 
 this i would like to have some suggestions of people that have done 
 similar implementations before. This help it would be excellent for 
 me, I hope some one can help.

 Thanks


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Re: [Samba] Basic questions regarding Samba capabilities

2012-05-21 Thread L . P . H . van Belle
Hai, 

Backend -- OPENLDAP isn't supported as a back-end.. I believe that your 
only option is to use the built-in samba4 back-end at this point.. 

About above, is it still posible to replicate the samba ad/ldap to other ldap 
servers ( without samba ), 
and will openldap be a supported backend in the future. 

Best regard, 

Louis

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