Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Hi Nico... My apologies for the delay as I've been on vacation. Thanks for the inputs below... Travis -Original Message- From: Nico Kadel-Garcia [mailto:nka...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:53 PM To: Andrew Masterson Cc: Kuter, Travis L; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Andrew Masterson andrew.master...@nuvistaenergy.com wrote: I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Define supported. If you mean 24/7 tiered escalation included with your RHEL subscription - then no. I have filed two bug reports about running the latest Sernet Samba on RHEL 5 fully patched https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7457 https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 and they've been outstanding for months now, and the servers have crashed at least once in the meantime. I also have to go in occasionally and kill zombie processes that peg a processor. So if you need super-ultra-resilient samba, don't use the sernet 3.5 strain. I got forced into it because Red Hat didn't have a Samba version compatible with Server 2008 when I had to build. Yeah, I worked with the Sernet version (recompiling from SRPM to verify the source code) to test out NFSv4 ACL interactions. I sent along a few suggestions about it: the whole samba-vscan debris from an ancient SuSE compilation environment can be tossed out, that particular tool is abandonware and not even enabled in the compilation. But overall, it was helpful to get an up-to-date toolkit running. I've been trying Samba 3.6.0pre1, and having problems, and samba-4.0.0* does something very odd with where it puts mount.cifs and umount.cifs and how it builds its configure scripts. I'm an old autoconf user, this new structure doesn't seem to have hooks for sbindir, and that's going to cause compatibility issues. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Excellent advise and input Robert...thank you. Travis -Original Message- From: Robert Freeman-Day [mailto:pres...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:35 AM To: Andrew Masterson Cc: Kuter, Travis L; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you pay for SerNet support, you may get those bugs fixed. Neither Red Hat, nor Samba upstream will likely support SerNet provided packages...it pretty much says that on the relevant pages. I suspect the samba.org bug reports are the wrong place to bark. If an upstream developer wants to correct me on this feel free to weigh in. Travis, stick with the facts and tell your client that RHEL 5 only supports their 3.3.x version, but may to a best effort on tarballed installations, and may...MAY help with SerNetbut I would verify that with Red Hat. Robert On 09/22/2010 04:57 PM, Andrew Masterson wrote: I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Define supported. If you mean 24/7 tiered escalation included with your RHEL subscription - then no. I have filed two bug reports about running the latest Sernet Samba on RHEL 5 fully patched https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7457 https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 and they've been outstanding for months now, and the servers have crashed at least once in the meantime. I also have to go in occasionally and kill zombie processes that peg a processor. So if you need super-ultra-resilient samba, don't use the sernet 3.5 strain. I got forced into it because Red Hat didn't have a Samba version compatible with Server 2008 when I had to build. -=Andrew - -- Robert Freeman-Day https://launchpad.net/~presgas GPG Public Key: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBA9DF9ED3E4C7D36 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkybc8EACgkQup357T5MfTbszwCaAhiWkpeApW+TIUetx9yRrULq qE8An3mPgw+dKVd3bAeYAAfQ0SR0C17v =Dun2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Thank you Daniel... Travis -Original Message- From: Daniel Müller [mailto:muel...@tropenklinik.de] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:18 AM To: 'Denis Fateyev'; Kuter, Travis L Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: AW: [Samba] RHEL 5 To install on centos 5.5/RHEL 5 you must get the ropos of SERNET: cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ wget http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/sernet-samba.repo yum update To make it run with openldap you need first: rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release-5-3.noarch.rp m yum update yum install openldap-servers nss_ldap samba httpd openssl mod_ssl mysql mysql-server php php-xml php-ldap php-mysql php-pdo php-cli php-common smbldap-tools --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Denis Fateyev Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2010 09:15 An: Kuter, Travis L Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 Hello Travis, We're using Samba 3.5 from SerNet (3.5.4, to be exact) with RHEL 4 and CentOS 5 for a long time without any issues. --- wbr, Denis. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Kuter, Travis L travis.ku...@hp.comwrote: Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Hi Christian, Thank you very much for the quick response. All the best - Travis -Original Message- From: Masopust, Christian [mailto:christian.masop...@siemens.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:43 AM To: Kuter, Travis L; 'samba@lists.samba.org' Subject: AW: RHEL 5 Hello Travis, have a look at http://samba.sernet.de, they provide packages of the latest Samba-versions for almost every systems. Also source-packages (rpm's for RHEL) can be found there. I'm using their packages on my RHEL5 systems and they are really fine. Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Kuter, Travis L Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2010 00:39 An: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: [Samba] RHEL 5 Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Excellent Denis.Thank you! From: Denis Fateyev [mailto:de...@fateyev.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:15 AM To: Kuter, Travis L Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 Hello Travis, We're using Samba 3.5 from SerNet (3.5.4, to be exact) with RHEL 4 and CentOS 5 for a long time without any issues. --- wbr, Denis. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Kuter, Travis L travis.ku...@hp.commailto:travis.ku...@hp.com wrote: Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.commailto:travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Thank very much Robert. Travis -Original Message- From: Robert Freeman-Day [mailto:pres...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:47 PM To: Kuter, Travis L Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Looks like I have to top post. The current Samba package provided by Red Hat to their RHEL 5 Linux distribution is 3.3.x https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2009-1399.html The SerNet packages are from a separate organization and NOT affiliated with Red Hat. They have a separate support structure and therefore you would pay extra to get official support from their packages. See: http://enterprisesamba.com/ and http://www.sernet.de/en/services/support/ I have been happy with the SerNet packages, but Red Hat would not support you if you used them instead of what is provided...or they would at least to a best effort. Robert On 09/21/2010 04:17 AM, Daniel Müller wrote: To install on centos 5.5/RHEL 5 you must get the ropos of SERNET: cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ wget http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/sernet-samba.repo yum update To make it run with openldap you need first: rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release-5-3.noarch.rp m yum update yum install openldap-servers nss_ldap samba httpd openssl mod_ssl mysql mysql-server php php-xml php-ldap php-mysql php-pdo php-cli php-common smbldap-tools --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Denis Fateyev Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2010 09:15 An: Kuter, Travis L Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 Hello Travis, We're using Samba 3.5 from SerNet (3.5.4, to be exact) with RHEL 4 and CentOS 5 for a long time without any issues. --- wbr, Denis. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Kuter, Travis L travis.ku...@hp.comwrote: Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba - -- Robert Freeman-Day https://launchpad.net/~presgas GPG Public Key: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBA9DF9ED3E4C7D36 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyZGckACgkQup357T5MfTY+8ACffqomOAJEsttjTakZv6Zt9vkP I40An2o3TbcZhzEA9yA9l8TaD2hYV2RY =aaJP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you pay for SerNet support, you may get those bugs fixed. Neither Red Hat, nor Samba upstream will likely support SerNet provided packages...it pretty much says that on the relevant pages. I suspect the samba.org bug reports are the wrong place to bark. If an upstream developer wants to correct me on this feel free to weigh in. Travis, stick with the facts and tell your client that RHEL 5 only supports their 3.3.x version, but may to a best effort on tarballed installations, and may...MAY help with SerNetbut I would verify that with Red Hat. Robert On 09/22/2010 04:57 PM, Andrew Masterson wrote: I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Define supported. If you mean 24/7 tiered escalation included with your RHEL subscription - then no. I have filed two bug reports about running the latest Sernet Samba on RHEL 5 fully patched https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7457 https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 and they've been outstanding for months now, and the servers have crashed at least once in the meantime. I also have to go in occasionally and kill zombie processes that peg a processor. So if you need super-ultra-resilient samba, don't use the sernet 3.5 strain. I got forced into it because Red Hat didn't have a Samba version compatible with Server 2008 when I had to build. -=Andrew - -- Robert Freeman-Day https://launchpad.net/~presgas GPG Public Key: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBA9DF9ED3E4C7D36 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkybc8EACgkQup357T5MfTbszwCaAhiWkpeApW+TIUetx9yRrULq qE8An3mPgw+dKVd3bAeYAAfQ0SR0C17v =Dun2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:35:29AM -0400, Robert Freeman-Day wrote: If you pay for SerNet support, you may get those bugs fixed. Neither Red Hat, nor Samba upstream will likely support SerNet provided packages...it pretty much says that on the relevant pages. I suspect the samba.org bug reports are the wrong place to bark. If an upstream developer wants to correct me on this feel free to weigh in. Travis, stick with the facts and tell your client that RHEL 5 only supports their 3.3.x version, but may to a best effort on tarballed installations, and may...MAY help with SerNetbut I would verify that with Red Hat. We provide the packages as a free service to the community. If you need bugs fixed for your production, you should really consider paying someone. ad If you have problems you believe are specific to the SerNet packages, you should contact SerNet (sa...@sernet.de). We will do our best to quickly help you for free, but expect that due to paying customer load we relatively quickly route you to our sales for a support contract. /ad We know that bugzilla.samba.org has risen to silly proportions, but there are only very few people who are able to spend time on it. We could certainly benefit from more people going over the bugs and for example try to reproduce them on current releases. This does not require developer skills, it is a matter of stamina to go through them with the bug reporter. A good bug report that has an exact description about the exact circumstances is almost certain to be more quickly fixed than just the it does not work message. We are very well aware that many of our users are just not able to do the diagnosis required, so anybody on this list with a little more knowledge is heartily invited to help in this area. Going through the bugs and trying to reproduce them is a very good way to learn Samba. Believe me, as a very long-term Samba contributor I have learned a *LOT* from bug reports and I still do. Volker -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/23/2010 12:39 PM, Volker Lendecke wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:35:29AM -0400, Robert Freeman-Day wrote: If you pay for SerNet support, you may get those bugs fixed. Neither Red Hat, nor Samba upstream will likely support SerNet provided packages...it pretty much says that on the relevant pages. I suspect the samba.org bug reports are the wrong place to bark. If an upstream developer wants to correct me on this feel free to weigh in. Travis, stick with the facts and tell your client that RHEL 5 only supports their 3.3.x version, but may to a best effort on tarballed installations, and may...MAY help with SerNetbut I would verify that with Red Hat. We provide the packages as a free service to the community. If you need bugs fixed for your production, you should really consider paying someone. ad If you have problems you believe are specific to the SerNet packages, you should contact SerNet (sa...@sernet.de). We will do our best to quickly help you for free, but expect that due to paying customer load we relatively quickly route you to our sales for a support contract. /ad We know that bugzilla.samba.org has risen to silly proportions, but there are only very few people who are able to spend time on it. We could certainly benefit from more people going over the bugs and for example try to reproduce them on current releases. This does not require developer skills, it is a matter of stamina to go through them with the bug reporter. A good bug report that has an exact description about the exact circumstances is almost certain to be more quickly fixed than just the it does not work message. We are very well aware that many of our users are just not able to do the diagnosis required, so anybody on this list with a little more knowledge is heartily invited to help in this area. Going through the bugs and trying to reproduce them is a very good way to learn Samba. Believe me, as a very long-term Samba contributor I have learned a *LOT* from bug reports and I still do. Volker Volker, I really appreciate you weighing in on this. It helps clarify your group's support stance, and I am glad you are willing to offer best effort for those wonderful(!) packages. Thanks to you all for keeping RHEL (and other distros) current with these services. Robert - -- Robert Freeman-Day https://launchpad.net/~presgas GPG Public Key: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBA9DF9ED3E4C7D36 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkybhjEACgkQup357T5MfTavGgCfWPxN0EYru/4kD+BxoszNsWz+ pfEAoIFLqaozUjPVnS3hej0fEWGzzoDo =VkVS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Define supported. If you mean 24/7 tiered escalation included with your RHEL subscription - then no. I have filed two bug reports about running the latest Sernet Samba on RHEL 5 fully patched https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7457 https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 and they've been outstanding for months now, and the servers have crashed at least once in the meantime. I also have to go in occasionally and kill zombie processes that peg a processor. So if you need super-ultra-resilient samba, don't use the sernet 3.5 strain. I got forced into it because Red Hat didn't have a Samba version compatible with Server 2008 when I had to build. -=Andrew -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Andrew Masterson andrew.master...@nuvistaenergy.com wrote: I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Define supported. If you mean 24/7 tiered escalation included with your RHEL subscription - then no. I have filed two bug reports about running the latest Sernet Samba on RHEL 5 fully patched https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7457 https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 and they've been outstanding for months now, and the servers have crashed at least once in the meantime. I also have to go in occasionally and kill zombie processes that peg a processor. So if you need super-ultra-resilient samba, don't use the sernet 3.5 strain. I got forced into it because Red Hat didn't have a Samba version compatible with Server 2008 when I had to build. Yeah, I worked with the Sernet version (recompiling from SRPM to verify the source code) to test out NFSv4 ACL interactions. I sent along a few suggestions about it: the whole samba-vscan debris from an ancient SuSE compilation environment can be tossed out, that particular tool is abandonware and not even enabled in the compilation. But overall, it was helpful to get an up-to-date toolkit running. I've been trying Samba 3.6.0pre1, and having problems, and samba-4.0.0* does something very odd with where it puts mount.cifs and umount.cifs and how it builds its configure scripts. I'm an old autoconf user, this new structure doesn't seem to have hooks for sbindir, and that's going to cause compatibility issues. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Hello Travis, have a look at http://samba.sernet.de, they provide packages of the latest Samba-versions for almost every systems. Also source-packages (rpm's for RHEL) can be found there. I'm using their packages on my RHEL5 systems and they are really fine. Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Kuter, Travis L Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2010 00:39 An: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: [Samba] RHEL 5 Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
Hello Travis, We're using Samba 3.5 from SerNet (3.5.4, to be exact) with RHEL 4 and CentOS 5 for a long time without any issues. --- wbr, Denis. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Kuter, Travis L travis.ku...@hp.comwrote: Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
To install on centos 5.5/RHEL 5 you must get the ropos of SERNET: cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ wget http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/sernet-samba.repo yum update To make it run with openldap you need first: rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release-5-3.noarch.rp m yum update yum install openldap-servers nss_ldap samba httpd openssl mod_ssl mysql mysql-server php php-xml php-ldap php-mysql php-pdo php-cli php-common smbldap-tools --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Denis Fateyev Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2010 09:15 An: Kuter, Travis L Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 Hello Travis, We're using Samba 3.5 from SerNet (3.5.4, to be exact) with RHEL 4 and CentOS 5 for a long time without any issues. --- wbr, Denis. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Kuter, Travis L travis.ku...@hp.comwrote: Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Looks like I have to top post. The current Samba package provided by Red Hat to their RHEL 5 Linux distribution is 3.3.x https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2009-1399.html The SerNet packages are from a separate organization and NOT affiliated with Red Hat. They have a separate support structure and therefore you would pay extra to get official support from their packages. See: http://enterprisesamba.com/ and http://www.sernet.de/en/services/support/ I have been happy with the SerNet packages, but Red Hat would not support you if you used them instead of what is provided...or they would at least to a best effort. Robert On 09/21/2010 04:17 AM, Daniel Müller wrote: To install on centos 5.5/RHEL 5 you must get the ropos of SERNET: cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ wget http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/sernet-samba.repo yum update To make it run with openldap you need first: rpm -Uvh http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release-5-3.noarch.rp m yum update yum install openldap-servers nss_ldap samba httpd openssl mod_ssl mysql mysql-server php php-xml php-ldap php-mysql php-pdo php-cli php-common smbldap-tools --- EDV Daniel Müller Leitung EDV Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus Paul-Lechler-Str. 24 72076 Tübingen Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499 eMail: muel...@tropenklinik.de Internet: www.tropenklinik.de --- -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] Im Auftrag von Denis Fateyev Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2010 09:15 An: Kuter, Travis L Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Betreff: Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 Hello Travis, We're using Samba 3.5 from SerNet (3.5.4, to be exact) with RHEL 4 and CentOS 5 for a long time without any issues. --- wbr, Denis. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Kuter, Travis L travis.ku...@hp.comwrote: Hi Samba, My name is Travis Kuter and I'm with HP's Solution Alliance org. I've got a client asking if Samba Internet Services 3.5 is supported under REHL 5. Would you mind helping with some clarification? Many thanks and Best Regards, Travis Travis Kuter WW ISV Business Development ESS Solution Alliances Hewlett-Packard Company travis.ku...@hp.com +404-664-2596 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba - -- Robert Freeman-Day https://launchpad.net/~presgas GPG Public Key: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBA9DF9ED3E4C7D36 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyZGckACgkQup357T5MfTY+8ACffqomOAJEsttjTakZv6Zt9vkP I40An2o3TbcZhzEA9yA9l8TaD2hYV2RY =aaJP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On 2010-04-14 at 18:48 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia sent off: Can you publish the actual SRPM built for RHEL 5, or explain how you were able to compile this package for RHEL 5? that SRPM that Volker mentioned is the correct SRPM. There is no different SRPM. The fact that you see a different distribution tag there is because the spec file does not know how the src.rpm that it was extracted from was named and the distribution tag is generated at built time. For that reason, if you take a look at any of the binary RPMs on ftp.sernet.de you'll see on each distibution package set that it was built from it's own distribution specific spec file. It might be that compilation of the srpm is not as trivialized as it might be. If you have any suggestions or fixes availabe to make it work on your flavour or patchlevel of RHEL5 you're welcome to send us them so that we can incorporate them and make compilation from the srpm also for other people even more convenient. Cheers Björn -- SerNet GmbH, Bahnhofsallee 1b, 37081 Göttingen phone: +49-551-37-0, fax: +49-551-37-9 AG Göttingen, HRB 2816, GF: Dr. Johannes Loxen pgpky42QGXrB4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Björn Jacke b...@sernet.de wrote: On 2010-04-14 at 18:48 -0400 Nico Kadel-Garcia sent off: Can you publish the actual SRPM built for RHEL 5, or explain how you were able to compile this package for RHEL 5? that SRPM that Volker mentioned is the correct SRPM. There is no different SRPM. The fact that you see a different distribution tag there is because the spec file does not know how the src.rpm that it was extracted from was named and the distribution tag is generated at built time. For that reason, if you take a look at any of the binary RPMs on ftp.sernet.de you'll see on each distibution package set that it was built from it's own distribution specific spec file. It might be that compilation of the srpm is not as trivialized as it might be. If you have any suggestions or fixes availabe to make it work on your flavour or patchlevel of RHEL5 you're welcome to send us them so that we can incorporate them and make compilation from the srpm also for other people even more convenient. Cheers Björn It's cool. Where I'm working these days, I have to be really careful about software provenance. I remain confused that the RPM's you publish all have something like this in their 'rpm -qi' information. Notice that the 'Source RPM' they lise is not the suse91 SRPM, it's an 'el5' SRPM. I assume this is because you're doing your builds for RHEL with a tool like 'mock', that first rebuilds the SRPM you are working from as a new SRPM precisely to get tags and PGP signatures right, then builds the RPM's from that. $ rpm -qip ldb-tools-3.5.2-43.el5.x86_64.rpm warning: ldb-tools-3.5.2-43.el5.x86_64.rpm: Header V4 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID f4428b1a Name: ldb-toolsRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.5.2 Vendor: Service Network GmbH, Goettingen Release : 43.el5Build Date: Tue 06 Apr 2010 07:37:55 AM EDT Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: sam Group : Productivity/Networking/Samba Source RPM: samba3-3.5.2-43.el5.src.rpm Size: 11378307 License: GPL v3 or later Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 06 Apr 2010 09:38:12 AM EDT, Key ID d9921b1cf4428b1a Packager: SerNet Samba Team sa...@sernet.de URL : http://www.samba.org Summary : SerNet Samba ldb tools Description : This packages contains the tools to manage ldb databases -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Volker Lendecke
volker.lende...@sernet.de wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 06:48:09PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
Can you publish the actual SRPM built for RHEL 5, or explain how you
were able to compile this package for RHEL 5?
All I can say at this moment is that according to our
internal procedures, the source RPM I referred you to is the
one we are building from. I will investigate if something
went wrong in posting this to the ftp server. We will
certainly do everything necessary to ship the source code
for the binaries you can download from our website to comply
with the GPL.
Can you please post the specific error message you are
getting? It might be that our BuildRequires: line in the
specfile is not correct or something else in our build
environment is different than your host.
Thanks,
Volker
Thanks. I responded to Bjorn about the provenance of your SRPM.
Here are my error messages: This occurs on RHEL 5.4 and CentOS 5.4,
x86_64 architecture, in a normal home directory build and under mock.
$ rpmbuild --rebuild samba3-3.5.2-43.suse91.src.rpm
Installing samba3-3.5.2-43.suse91.src.rpm
warning: InstallSourcePackage: Header V4 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID f4428b1a
error: Package already exists: %package debuginfo
Looking more deeply, I see your fascinating logic around
'this_is_redhat'., which seems to be failing. I've no idea why it's
failing, but I've previously found group statements to be a bit subtle
and unreliable unless you're very careful to set 'LANG' to something
predictable. In particular, in RHEL 5 with the default en_US.UTF8
setup, grep is case insensitive and should therefore be avoided unless
you set 'LANG=POSIX' or something reliable, first.
I'd like to suggest some cleaner logic for RedHat detection, as
included in this patch:
$ diff -u samba-3.5.spec.default samba-3.5.spec
--- samba-3.5.spec.default 2010-04-06 06:14:28.0 -0400
+++ samba-3.5.spec 2010-04-15 07:10:57.0 -0400
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
Url: http://www.samba.org
Vendor:Service Network GmbH, Goettingen
%definereleasefile %(ls /etc/SuSE-release
/etc/UnitedLinux-release /etc/sles-release /etc/redhat-release
2/dev/null | head -n1)
-%definethis_is_redhat %(echo %{releasefile} | grep
-qi red echo 1 || echo 0)
+%definethis_is_redhat %([ -e /etc/redhat-release ]
echo 1 || echo 0)
Distribution: %(head -n1 %{releasefile} || echo some SUSE-flavour ... )
%if %(echo %{distribution} | grep -q UnitedLinux echo 1 || echo 0 )
%definesuse_ver81
This patch allows compilation. I'm running a complete build right now.
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Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Volker Lendecke volker.lende...@sernet.de wrote: http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/src/rpm/samba3-3.5.2-43.suse91.src.rpm Odd name to build on CentOS, but we build all RPMs from a single source RPM and pick one to upload. Volker Volker, this SRPM does *not* compile on clean RHEL 5.4 x86_64, neither from my command line nor in a mock configuration. It seems to rely on interpreting various config files to decide whether it is RHEL, and then to decide whether to build debuginfo as a separate component, and it fails on the resulting duplicate debuginfo compilation. Given that you haven't published the actual SRPM used referred to by your RPM's, and that I can't compile the SRPM you did publish, I don't feel I can use this package. Moreover, if this isn't actually the SRPM you used, you may be in violation of the GPL. (Not deliberately, of course!!!) Can you publish the actual SRPM built for RHEL 5, or explain how you were able to compile this package for RHEL 5? -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 06:48:09PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Volker Lendecke volker.lende...@sernet.de wrote: http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/src/rpm/samba3-3.5.2-43.suse91.src.rpm Odd name to build on CentOS, but we build all RPMs from a single source RPM and pick one to upload. Volker Volker, this SRPM does *not* compile on clean RHEL 5.4 x86_64, neither from my command line nor in a mock configuration. It seems to rely on interpreting various config files to decide whether it is RHEL, and then to decide whether to build debuginfo as a separate component, and it fails on the resulting duplicate debuginfo compilation. Given that you haven't published the actual SRPM used referred to by your RPM's, and that I can't compile the SRPM you did publish, I don't feel I can use this package. Moreover, if this isn't actually the SRPM you used, you may be in violation of the GPL. (Not deliberately, of course!!!) Can you publish the actual SRPM built for RHEL 5, or explain how you were able to compile this package for RHEL 5? All I can say at this moment is that according to our internal procedures, the source RPM I referred you to is the one we are building from. I will investigate if something went wrong in posting this to the ftp server. We will certainly do everything necessary to ship the source code for the binaries you can download from our website to comply with the GPL. Can you please post the specific error message you are getting? It might be that our BuildRequires: line in the specfile is not correct or something else in our build environment is different than your host. Thanks, Volker signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 08:40:38PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Oguz Yilmaz oguzyilmazl...@gmail.com wrote: Check for precompiled rpms if it is appropriate for you. rpms fr Centos 5 isTested in Centos 5.4 http://enterprisesamba.com/index.php?id=65 http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/ http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/i386/ If you need SRPMS check new RHEL 5.5 SRPMS. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/ Thank you for the pointer: the official RedHat and CentOs RPM's don't go past 3.3.8. The ftp.sernet.de repository has version 3.5.x, but I do not see SRPM's there, nor do I see the stated SRPM from their 'rpm -qi' information listed anywhere in Google, so I don't see access to the relevant SRPM to review it or compare it to my own work. It's unusual to publish an RPM repository without the SRPM's in a related location: who runs that site? where is it a mirror from? http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/src/rpm/samba3-3.5.2-43.suse91.src.rpm Odd name to build on CentOS, but we build all RPMs from a single source RPM and pick one to upload. Volker -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
http://www.sernet.de/de/samba/ On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Oguz Yilmaz oguzyilmazl...@gmail.com wrote: Check for precompiled rpms if it is appropriate for you. rpms fr Centos 5 isTested in Centos 5.4 http://enterprisesamba.com/index.php?id=65 http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/ http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/i386/ If you need SRPMS check new RHEL 5.5 SRPMS. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/ Thank you for the pointer: the official RedHat and CentOs RPM's don't go past 3.3.8. The ftp.sernet.de repository has version 3.5.x, but I do not see SRPM's there, nor do I see the stated SRPM from their 'rpm -qi' information listed anywhere in Google, so I don't see access to the relevant SRPM to review it or compare it to my own work. It's unusual to publish an RPM repository without the SRPM's in a related location: who runs that site? where is it a mirror from? Whose is that site? Do they have the SRPM';s somewhere else? -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Volker Lendecke volker.lende...@sernet.de wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 08:40:38PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Oguz Yilmaz oguzyilmazl...@gmail.com wrote: Check for precompiled rpms if it is appropriate for you. rpms fr Centos 5 isTested in Centos 5.4 http://enterprisesamba.com/index.php?id=65 http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/ http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/i386/ If you need SRPMS check new RHEL 5.5 SRPMS. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/ Thank you for the pointer: the official RedHat and CentOs RPM's don't go past 3.3.8. The ftp.sernet.de repository has version 3.5.x, but I do not see SRPM's there, nor do I see the stated SRPM from their 'rpm -qi' information listed anywhere in Google, so I don't see access to the relevant SRPM to review it or compare it to my own work. It's unusual to publish an RPM repository without the SRPM's in a related location: who runs that site? where is it a mirror from? http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/src/rpm/samba3-3.5.2-43.suse91.src.rpm Odd name to build on CentOS, but we build all RPMs from a single source RPM and pick one to upload. Volker Then you're missing a step in your descriptioin. The Samba RPM's claim that they are built from the SRPM samba3-3.5.2-43.el5.src.rpm, not that SuSE listed SRPM. If you're using a tool like mock to build from the SuSE SRPM, it's still not the SRPM actually used to build your binaries: the SRPM used to build the actual binaries is the SRPM that mock, itself, regenerates and can be found with the binaries in /var/lib/mock/epel-5-x86_64/results/ or wherever your build tool may put them. If this isn't what's happening, then something else fascinating is going on, and I'd welcome your explanation. I'm sorry if it seems pesky on my part: I do try to dot my i's and cross my t's about software source code and build procedures, especially for something so system-critical as Samba. And I *have* seen smart aleck software packagers put in '%ifdef and %ifarch statements around source components of their SRPM's, and even write self-modifying .spec files. That programmer and I had to have a talk about that little stunt: he wrote a bit of '%setup scripting that updated the release number and built from the new .spec file, but then he got the termination one and recursed the system into destruction, compiling as root, which I'd previously explained was a really bad idea. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
Check for precompiled rpms if it is appropriate for you. rpms fr Centos 5 isTested in Centos 5.4 http://enterprisesamba.com/index.php?id=65 http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/ http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/i386/ If you need SRPMS check new RHEL 5.5 SRPMS. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: There have been various reports of the difficulties compiling Samba 3.5.x on RHEL 5 and other older operating systems, due to the failure to correctly load the 'termcap' libraries. The issue is described in various sources as involving the automaticlaly included GCC option: '--as-needed' failes to detect the dependencies and add the termcap library. There are two graceful fixes for this: one is to add a '--with-termcap' test to configure.in. The other is to edit configure.in to change the '--as-needed' flag to '--no-as-needed', at least on platforms that have this issue. I've written a quick and dirty .spec file for RHEL 5, which I'm happy to post. It's built from the Fedora 12 SRPM and .spec file, and also rearranges the 'BuildRequires' to work for RHEL 5 if the RPM settings match that release. Does anyone want it for testing, or is in a better position than me to host RHEL compatible updates for Samba and could use this? CentOS isn't prepared, I think, to jump *that* far ahead of RHEL with this. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] RHEL 5 compilation of Samba 3.5.2, termcap library problem, use '--no-as-needed'
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Oguz Yilmaz oguzyilmazl...@gmail.com wrote: Check for precompiled rpms if it is appropriate for you. rpms fr Centos 5 isTested in Centos 5.4 http://enterprisesamba.com/index.php?id=65 http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/ http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.5/centos/5/i386/ If you need SRPMS check new RHEL 5.5 SRPMS. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/ Thank you for the pointer: the official RedHat and CentOs RPM's don't go past 3.3.8. The ftp.sernet.de repository has version 3.5.x, but I do not see SRPM's there, nor do I see the stated SRPM from their 'rpm -qi' information listed anywhere in Google, so I don't see access to the relevant SRPM to review it or compare it to my own work. It's unusual to publish an RPM repository without the SRPM's in a related location: who runs that site? where is it a mirror from? Whose is that site? Do they have the SRPM';s somewhere else? -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
