Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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That hasnt helped either.

Same lag on file modification.

Thanks.


On 01/16/2010 05:46 AM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:20:36PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 Any suggestions?  Anything i can check?  Am i perhaps looking an an NFS
 performance issue?  I'm able to modify files over the nfs mount from the
 smb server without an issue.
 
 No, this is probably not a NFS performance thing, NFS is not
 *that* slow. Next try after kernel oplocks = no would be
 posix locking = no.
 
 Volker

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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 That hasnt helped either.
 
 Same lag on file modification.
 
 Thanks.

Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
responsible for your client and strace it.

strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid

Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.

Volker


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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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Thank's, i'll get on that.  in the meantime.


I've run wireshark during the write process.  Here's what i've come up
with.

When i initiate the write (file-save), i see, from my workstation, to
the smb server and NT Create Andx request path: \test\testfile.txt

Immediately after that, i get a response from the smb server, to my
workstation: microsoft-ds  cognex-insight [ACK] seq=1 Ack=127
Win=36448 Len:0

28 seconds later, i get, from my workstation, to the server: Echo Request

Immdiately after that, i get another microsoft-ds  cognex-insight [ACK]

Then the whole thing seems to start over again, except this time, no 28
second pause, and the write completes.


On 01/20/2010 12:56 PM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 That hasnt helped either.

 Same lag on file modification.

 Thanks.
 
 Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
 responsible for your client and strace it.
 
 strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid
 
 Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.
 
 Volker

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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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OK, Here we go.

http://www.undrground.org/smb/smbd.strace


On 01/20/2010 12:56 PM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 That hasnt helped either.

 Same lag on file modification.

 Thanks.
 
 Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
 responsible for your client and strace it.
 
 strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid
 
 Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.
 
 Volker

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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Jeff Layton
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:36:18 -0500
Nathan Lager lag...@lafayette.edu wrote:

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 OK, Here we go.
 
 http://www.undrground.org/smb/smbd.strace
 
 
 On 01/20/2010 12:56 PM, Volker Lendecke wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:28:41PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
  That hasnt helped either.
 
  Same lag on file modification.
 
  Thanks.
  
  Please connect, look in smbstatus which process is
  responsible for your client and strace it.
  
  strace -ttT -o /tmp/smbd.strace -p smbd-pid
  
  Upload /tmp/smbd.strace somewhere please.
  
  Volker
 
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Looks like it's taking forever for flock() calls to time out, and then
it finally fails with -ENOLCK:

13:24:00.268018 flock(28, 0x60 /* LOCK_??? */) = -1 ENOLCK (No locks available) 
30.000971

...often that means that you don't have rpc.statd running on the client.
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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Lager
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On 01/20/2010 03:00 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
 ...often that means that you don't have rpc.statd running on the client.


I officially feel like a dolt now.

Thank you for pointing out what should have been painfully obvious.

I started up the nfslock service on my samba server, and the issue is gone.

Thanks!





Here's to public humiliation.  :P
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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-16 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:20:36PM -0500, Nathan Lager wrote:
 Any suggestions?  Anything i can check?  Am i perhaps looking an an NFS
 performance issue?  I'm able to modify files over the nfs mount from the
 smb server without an issue.

No, this is probably not a NFS performance thing, NFS is not
*that* slow. Next try after kernel oplocks = no would be
posix locking = no.

Volker


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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-15 Thread Gerald Carter
Nathan Lager wrote:
 Afternoon!
 I have a samba server, which shares out an NFS mounted share.  It seems
 that everything works rather well, except that i get some lag when
 modifying a file.  If i share a directory which is local to the samba
 server, no lag, everything works perfectly.  However, when i share an
 NFS mounted volume, i get about 30 seconds of lag while writing a file
 after it's been modified.

Hey Nathan,

A 30 second lag is normally an indication of an oplock
break timeout.  Just an fyi...If you are re-exporting an
nfs mounted volume on linux, try setting kernel oplocks = no
since I don't bnelieve the kernel file lease mechanism is
availble on an NFS mount but I could be wrong on that one.
Just a suggestion.




cheers, jerry




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Re: [Samba] Samba, and NFS. lag?

2010-01-15 Thread Nathan Lager
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This didnt seem to help.

As a side, note, i've also tried it without the Novell client.  This
didnt help either.


Thanks just the same for the response.


On 01/15/2010 03:48 PM, Gerald Carter wrote:
 Nathan Lager wrote:
 Afternoon!
 I have a samba server, which shares out an NFS mounted share.  It seems
 that everything works rather well, except that i get some lag when
 modifying a file.  If i share a directory which is local to the samba
 server, no lag, everything works perfectly.  However, when i share an
 NFS mounted volume, i get about 30 seconds of lag while writing a file
 after it's been modified.
 
 Hey Nathan,
 
 A 30 second lag is normally an indication of an oplock
 break timeout.  Just an fyi...If you are re-exporting an
 nfs mounted volume on linux, try setting kernel oplocks = no
 since I don't bnelieve the kernel file lease mechanism is
 availble on an NFS mount but I could be wrong on that one.
 Just a suggestion.
 
 
 
 
 cheers, jerry
 
 

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