Re: [Samba] Samba 3.2.0-pre3 packages in Debian - version of Samba in Debian lenny

2008-04-29 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Gerald (Jerry) Carter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
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> Christian,
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> | Debian entered the freeze stage for lenny on April 1st.
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> Wow!  A 5 month freeze before release?  I guess I can
> understand for a distro but that seems a bit excessive.


Well, etch freeze started on Aug. 1st 2006 and etch was released on
Apr 8th 2007, so 5 months is actually *short*..:-)

For people interested in such stuff, here's the release schedule:

Early March 2008
  Very soft freeze
Please start thinking about the release when uploading new major
upstream versions. Only upload to unstable if you are sure that
the software will be stable before we release. If you are not
convinced, use experimental as staging area.

  Freeze of release goal list
We will announce the final list of release goals and report about
the progress made in each area. At this point, goals which look
too hard to complete for lenny will be removed from the list (and
automatically put on the list for lenny+1)

  Start of the second BSP marathon for Lenny
See below for more information about this, but you can and should
help with it.

Early April 2008
  Freeze of the essential toolchain

Mid of June 2008
  Freeze of the non-essential toolchain and all libraries
The "non-essential toolchain" means things like debhelper, cdbs 
and a big chunk of other things usually needed to produce binary
packages.

Mid of July 2008
  Full freeze
Please don't wait with uploads for the last day before the freeze,
thanks.

September 2008
  Release lenny!

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Re: [Samba] Samba 3.2.0-pre3 packages in Debian - version of Samba in Debian lenny

2008-04-29 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter

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Christian,

| Debian entered the freeze stage for lenny on April 1st.

Wow!  A 5 month freeze before release?  I guess I can
understand for a distro but that seems a bit excessive.







cheers, jerry
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Re: [Samba] Samba 3.2.0-pre3 packages in Debian - version of Samba in Debian lenny

2008-04-29 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Gerald (Jerry) Carter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Christian, I really disagree here.  What made you com to
> the decision that 3.0 is batter for a September Debian
> release?


Because the Debian release team asked maintainers to slow odwn
upstream version bumps as of March 2008. And one of the keys of "try
to release Debian on time" is avoiding to go against the release team
suggestions.

(for instance, the KDE packaging team decided to stick with KDE 3.4
for such reasons)

Debian entered the freeze stage for lenny on April 1st. Currenly, only
the base system packages are frozen, but the freeze should slowly become
stronger (the toolchain should come soon).

The current schedule for releasing samba 3.2.0 leaves us quite a chort
time before the planned release and, with the current manpower we have
in the Debian maintenance team, I don't feel comfortable going to
3.2.0 now.

That's a very though decision, indeed. I somewhat feel like Steve
Langasek will agree (actually he didn't disagree when I proposed this
in ou internal mailign listwhile he may be too busy with the
Ubuntu release).

Of course, I'm ready to hear arguments against that decision...

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Re: [Samba] Samba 3.2.0-pre3 packages in Debian - version of Samba in Debian lenny

2008-04-28 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter

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Christian Perrier wrote:

| News about Samba in Debian lenny
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| Debian lenny is due out for September 2008. From the news we currently
| have, it seems wiser to stick with 3.0.28a rather than a quite
| disruptive and uncertain 3.2.0 This is currently the plan of the
| packaging team for Samba in Debian (and Ubuntu).
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| We will do our best to offer 3.2.0 packages for lenny on the
| backports.org server.
|
| Ubuntu Hardy will have 3.0.28a and the same is likely to be true for
| hardy+1 (8.10 or so).

Christian, I really disagree here.  What made you com to
the decision that 3.0 is batter for a September Debian
release?






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