Re: [Re: [Re: [Samba] Won't Start Automatically]]]
My other source of info is the O'Reilly book _Using Samba_ by Ts, Eckstein, and Collier-Brown. In Chapter 2, they say that the kills--the Kxxservices-- are always run first, then the Startups--the Sxxservice--are run. They're not explicit on the numbering, but they imply that lower numbers are always run before higher numbers. Finally, their example explicitly has the reader generating soft links to S35smb (smb is the samba start/stop script in their example and in my case) and to K35smb. They do point out that the idea is to have samba start after all the services it needs have started and to stop before any of the services it needs are stopped. Also, in my case, there was no soft link, of any number, to start smb until I added it. The sample smb that came with my installation, by the way, had chkconfig giving it a start of 91 and a stop of 35. As to chkconfig, I confess to not understanding, apparently, the instructions in the man pages. When I run "chkconfig --add smb" to add smb to runlevels 3 and 5, (per the commented chkconfig support lines in smb), it's obviously getting smb to run on bootup (I've removed the soft links I made, my earlier remarks notwithstanding) but I see no soft links in the /etc/rc.d/rc3.d or ../rc5.d directories. From where are they being run? Thanks Eric Hines >Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Samba] Won't Start Automatically]] > > >>Actually, my problem turns out to be even more basic and foolish than >>that. I assumed that since the relevant Kill files were present in the >>ls listing, then the Start files would be, too. Nope. I had to make >>those soft links; when I did, everything worked properly. >> >Then perhaps you still need to read up on how the startup scripts work, at >least on Fedora. The startup routine runs every link in the rcX.d >directory that has either an S or a K in the order determined by the >number contained in the name. On entering a runlevel, if the link is a >KXXservice then it runs the service with the stop argument, if the link is >a SXXservice then it runs it with a start, the order is from low numbers >to high. This procedure is reversed on leaving a runlevel, the S = stop, >the K = start (I believe) and the numerical order goes from high to >low. I need to read up on the docs myself since I cant tell you if it >does kills then starts or if it does all the numbers in order regardless >of the argument. I believe it is the former though. > >The fact that samba works for you is a wonderful coincidence. By most >accounts, the default setup for samba is a K35/S65. In your setup that >means that samba gets killed and then started, leaving you with a running >system. If you had to change to another runlevel and expected samba to be >stopped you'd be in for a surprise. > >This is exactly the reason that somebody made chkconfig, it keeps stuff >like this from happening. It also follows the convention that when a >service is switched from stop to start and vice versa, the number given to >it is 100-, which is why samba is usually a >K35/S65. > >>Eric Hines >> >>> >>>>Greetings, >>>> >>>>Running FC3, kernel 2.6.9-1.667.i686, Samba v 3.0.11. >>>> >>>>I have been able to guts up Samba by adding a procedure >>>>to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I can't get the system to start from >>>>the /etc/rc.d/rcx.d directories. I have an smb script >>>>in /etc/rc.d/init.d that is soft-linked from the rcx.d directories, and >>>>that runs just fine when I invoke it from the command line, but >>>>apparently the rcx.d links aren't getting called at all. >>>> >>>>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>>Eric Hines >>>>-- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Samba] Won't Start Automatically]]
Actually, my problem turns out to be even more basic and foolish than that. I assumed that since the relevant Kill files were present in the ls listing, then the Start files would be, too. Nope. I had to make those soft links; when I did, everything worked properly. Then perhaps you still need to read up on how the startup scripts work, at least on Fedora. The startup routine runs every link in the rcX.d directory that has either an S or a K in the order determined by the number contained in the name. On entering a runlevel, if the link is a KXXservice then it runs the service with the stop argument, if the link is a SXXservice then it runs it with a start, the order is from low numbers to high. This procedure is reversed on leaving a runlevel, the S = stop, the K = start (I believe) and the numerical order goes from high to low. I need to read up on the docs myself since I cant tell you if it does kills then starts or if it does all the numbers in order regardless of the argument. I believe it is the former though. The fact that samba works for you is a wonderful coincidence. By most accounts, the default setup for samba is a K35/S65. In your setup that means that samba gets killed and then started, leaving you with a running system. If you had to change to another runlevel and expected samba to be stopped you'd be in for a surprise. This is exactly the reason that somebody made chkconfig, it keeps stuff like this from happening. It also follows the convention that when a service is switched from stop to start and vice versa, the number given to it is 100-, which is why samba is usually a K35/S65. Eric Hines Forwarded Message From: Paul Gienger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:21:12 -0600 ntsysv doesn't list the samba daemons (smbd, nmbd), and while I could use chkconfig, it appears, to add the daemons, I'd rather do this via the rcx.d links so I can understand what's going on. Read up exactly what chkconfig does (man chkconfig). It just moves the links around for you automatically so that locations and such are sane and verifiable. Eric Hines Forwarded Message From: Sp0oKeR Labs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:35:32 -0300 Did u try ntsysv ou chkconfig? Are you using SELinux? Regards, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:29:55 -0600, E E Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings, Running FC3, kernel 2.6.9-1.667.i686, Samba v 3.0.11. I have been able to guts up Samba by adding a procedure to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I can't get the system to start from the /etc/rc.d/rcx.d directories. I have an smb script in /etc/rc.d/init.d that is soft-linked from the rcx.d directories, and that runs just fine when I invoke it from the command line, but apparently the rcx.d links aren't getting called at all. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Eric Hines -- Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. And to stay there until the evil yellow disk is gone again. --Anonymous -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- -- Paul GiengerOffice: 701-281-1884 Applied Engineering Inc. Systems Architect Fax:701-281-1322 URL: www.ae-solutions.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Samba] Won't Start Automatically]]
Actually, my problem turns out to be even more basic and foolish than that. I assumed that since the relevant Kill files were present in the ls listing, then the Start files would be, too. Nope. I had to make those soft links; when I did, everything worked properly. Eric Hines Forwarded Message From: Paul Gienger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:21:12 -0600 >ntsysv doesn't list the samba daemons (smbd, nmbd), and while I could >use chkconfig, it appears, to add the daemons, I'd rather do this via >the rcx.d links so I can understand what's going on. > > Read up exactly what chkconfig does (man chkconfig). It just moves the links around for you automatically so that locations and such are sane and verifiable. >Eric Hines > > Forwarded Message >From: Sp0oKeR Labs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:35:32 -0300 >Did u try ntsysv ou chkconfig? Are you using SELinux? > >Regards, > >On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:29:55 -0600, E E Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Greetings, >> >>Running FC3, kernel 2.6.9-1.667.i686, Samba v 3.0.11. >> >>I have been able to guts up Samba by adding a procedure >>to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I can't get the system to start from >>the /etc/rc.d/rcx.d directories. I have an smb script >>in /etc/rc.d/init.d that is soft-linked from the rcx.d directories, and >>that runs just fine when I invoke it from the command line, but >>apparently the rcx.d links aren't getting called at all. >> >>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Thanks >>Eric Hines >>-- >>Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. >>And to stay there until the evil yellow disk is gone again. >>--Anonymous >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >>instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba >> >> >> > > > > > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Samba] Won't Start Automatically]
ntsysv doesn't list the samba daemons (smbd, nmbd), and while I could use chkconfig, it appears, to add the daemons, I'd rather do this via the rcx.d links so I can understand what's going on. Read up exactly what chkconfig does (man chkconfig). It just moves the links around for you automatically so that locations and such are sane and verifiable. Eric Hines Forwarded Message From: Sp0oKeR Labs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:35:32 -0300 Did u try ntsysv ou chkconfig? Are you using SELinux? Regards, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:29:55 -0600, E E Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings, Running FC3, kernel 2.6.9-1.667.i686, Samba v 3.0.11. I have been able to guts up Samba by adding a procedure to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I can't get the system to start from the /etc/rc.d/rcx.d directories. I have an smb script in /etc/rc.d/init.d that is soft-linked from the rcx.d directories, and that runs just fine when I invoke it from the command line, but apparently the rcx.d links aren't getting called at all. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Eric Hines -- Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. And to stay there until the evil yellow disk is gone again. --Anonymous -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- -- Paul GiengerOffice: 701-281-1884 Applied Engineering Inc. Systems Architect Fax:701-281-1322 URL: www.ae-solutions.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Fwd: Re: [Samba] Won't Start Automatically]
Hi, ntsysv doesn't list the samba daemons (smbd, nmbd), and while I could use chkconfig, it appears, to add the daemons, I'd rather do this via the rcx.d links so I can understand what's going on. Eric Hines Forwarded Message From: Sp0oKeR Labs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:35:32 -0300 Did u try ntsysv ou chkconfig? Are you using SELinux? Regards, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:29:55 -0600, E E Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > Running FC3, kernel 2.6.9-1.667.i686, Samba v 3.0.11. > > I have been able to guts up Samba by adding a procedure > to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I can't get the system to start from > the /etc/rc.d/rcx.d directories. I have an smb script > in /etc/rc.d/init.d that is soft-linked from the rcx.d directories, and > that runs just fine when I invoke it from the command line, but > apparently the rcx.d links aren't getting called at all. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Eric Hines > -- > Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. > And to stay there until the evil yellow disk is gone again. > --Anonymous > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Won't Start Automatically
Did u try ntsysv ou chkconfig? Are you using SELinux? Regards, On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:29:55 -0600, E E Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > Running FC3, kernel 2.6.9-1.667.i686, Samba v 3.0.11. > > I have been able to guts up Samba by adding a procedure > to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I can't get the system to start from > the /etc/rc.d/rcx.d directories. I have an smb script > in /etc/rc.d/init.d that is soft-linked from the rcx.d directories, and > that runs just fine when I invoke it from the command line, but > apparently the rcx.d links aren't getting called at all. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Eric Hines > -- > Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. > And to stay there until the evil yellow disk is gone again. > --Anonymous > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > -- Sp0oKeR Labs RHCE / LPIC-I Desenvolvedor BRMAlinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
