Re: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > I just forwarded your mail to Steve and I think he'll make sure this > reaches the right folks in Ubuntu server team. Thank you. Would be nice to see these startup scripts work properly. I'll be happy to provide any additional information that may help resolve the issue. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote: >> And I have seen reported instances of Samba issues on Ubuntu being >> resolved by avoiding the distro packages and compiling from source. > > Hmmm, could be interesting to learn about which ones. The reports I allude to I've read on this list. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd
Quoting Chris Smith (smb...@chrissmith.org): > OK, not exactly a samba issue but maybe the Ubuntu maintainer reads > this list and can provide some input. There is not exactly such thing as "the Ubuntu maintainer". As far as I can tell (with my Debian package maintainer hat), samba packages in Ubuntu are taken unchanged from Debian and very few Ubuntu-specific changes are made (the upstart-related change being one as Debian doesn't use upstart by default). This is monitored by Ubuntu server team, also with Steve Langasek (my co-maintainer for samba in Debian...and Canonical employee, though he's working on different things for Ubuntu). I just forwarded your mail to Steve and I think he'll make sure this reaches the right folks in Ubuntu server team. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd
Quoting Chris Smith (smb...@chrissmith.org): > And I have seen reported instances of Samba issues on Ubuntu being > resolved by avoiding the distro packages and compiling from source. Hmmm, could be interesting to learn about which ones. Since 2-3 years, we made great efforts in Debian to avoid changing the behaviour of samba in our packages wrt upstream behaviour. Several code patches have been discussed with upstream, often integrated and sometimes abandoned. As a consequence, I would say that I don't see reasons for the behaviour of samba in Debian or Ubuntu packages to be different from samba compiled from sources. Of course, assuming you're comparing the same upstream version. So, if there are such issues, the packagers might be highly interested to learn about them (the best being bug reports in the distro's bug tracker). I think the same also stands for packages in rpm-based distros. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM, William E Jojo wrote: > It's similar to the way you can use startsrc or stopsrc on AIX. > > -F > If specified, this parameter causes the main smbd process to not > daemonize, i.e. double-fork and disassociate with the terminal. > Child processes are still created as normal to service each > connection request, but the main process does not exit. This > operation mode is suitable for running smbd under process > supervisors such as supervise and svscan from Daniel J. Bernstein´s > daemontools package, or the AIX process monitor. I've seen the man page :) AFAIK, running it as a daemon is preferable, and I've always run it that way. If you had read further up the man page you would have found: "Operating the server as a daemon is the recommended way of running smbd for servers that provide more than casual use file and print services. This switch is assumed if smbd is executed on the command line of a shell." >> On the plus side, I am thankful that I have continued to avoid Ubuntu >> as a candidate in any critical server role. > > Really, why? Is it unstable for you in some way? Just curious as I've not had > any issues thus far and Canonical support is very responsive. The problem with needed to restart nmbd manually (or via an additional script) that I alluded is one reason. Choosing to not run smbd as a daemon seems to be mistake in one way or another - you can set daemon or inetd mode in /etc/default/samba but the smbd.conf upstart script is hardcoded to run "smbd -F" and just as oddly the nmbd.conf script is hardcoded to run "nmbd -D", both ignoring the setting in /etc/default/samba. And I have seen reported instances of Samba issues on Ubuntu being resolved by avoiding the distro packages and compiling from source. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd
- Original Message - > From: "Chris Smith" > To: "Samba List" > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:14:07 PM > Subject: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd > OK, not exactly a samba issue but maybe the Ubuntu maintainer reads > this list and can provide some input. > > Problem: Ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd. > > System: Ubuntu Lucid where a recent update moved many startup scripts > into the "upstart" system. > > Now smbd is started and runs as "smbd -F". If I edit the upstart > script (/etc/init/smbd.conf) so that it runs as "smbd -D" (the default > and what I would like) it doesn't work. I see no inet.d running so I > have no clue how it works at all like this. > It's similar to the way you can use startsrc or stopsrc on AIX. -F If specified, this parameter causes the main smbd process to not daemonize, i.e. double-fork and disassociate with the terminal. Child processes are still created as normal to service each connection request, but the main process does not exit. This operation mode is suitable for running smbd under process supervisors such as supervise and svscan from Daniel J. Bernstein´s daemontools package, or the AIX process monitor. > Also this change to upstart did not resolve the problem of nmbd not > starting correctly, it just nullified the script I had in rc.local to > restart nmbd (guess I will rewrite this). > Sorry, can't speak to that. > On the plus side, I am thankful that I have continued to avoid Ubuntu > as a candidate in any critical server role. > Really, why? Is it unstable for you in some way? Just curious as I've not had any issues thus far and Canonical support is very responsive. Cheers, Bill > Chris > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] ubuntu doesn't daemonize smbd
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Chris Smith wrote: > Now smbd is started and runs as "smbd -F". If I edit the upstart > script (/etc/init/smbd.conf) so that it runs as "smbd -D" (the default > and what I would like) it doesn't work. Must have been a fluke - it does appear now that editing smbd.conf to start as -D is working except the "service smbd stop" command no longer functions. Guess this should really be on an Ubuntu forum. Sorry for the noise. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
