Weekly machine password changes (RE: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind)
No big surprise there. :) I'm still trying to figure exactly what goes on with the machine password changing around. Who initiates this? nmbd? The PDC? Who's notified of this change, and what's going on there. Perhaps someone can shed some light? -- Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=- "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely crying son O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is yet to come" -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song > -Original Message- > From: David Leuser II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:28 PM > To: Nir Soffer > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind > > > Restarting winbind didn't change things at all... I honestly > have no idea > what caused it, but I rejoined my server to the domain with > smbpasswd, and > the problems dissappeared. Go figure. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I've seen a similar problem to that when running winbind... Try > restarting winbind? I'm starting to have a feeling that if the machine > password is reset by nmbd, winbindd never finds out. > > Anyone have any comments to that regard? I'm trying to reproduce the > problem in a controlled environment right now, but have yet to see it > again. > > Nir. > > > -- > Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=- > "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely > crying son > O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is > yet to come" > -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song > > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Leuser II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:04 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > i had everything samba working PERFECT a few days ago, > > meantime something > > has changed or something i've changed, i know not what, is > > causing me to > > not be able to authenticate domain users... it just plain > > doesn't work. i > > haven't changed anything in /etc/pam.d/, but i checked on it and > > everything there is still ok wbinfo -u lists all the > > users just swell. > > One wierd thing i noticed (beside the problem), if i do "ps > > -aux | grep > > winbind" winbind doesn't show, but if i just "ps -aux" it IS in THAT > > list... > > > > i was messing around with red hats print manager utility > > (which somehow is > > supposed to use samba's smbclient, didn't work btw)... i > don't know if > > that broke something? any ideas? > > > > thanks > > > > > > David M. Leuser, II > > Assistant Network Administrator > > New Hampton School > > (603) 744-3182 x121 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you > lots of power, > > with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy > > entire cities. > > Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive > > manner, it is not a > > good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite the > > wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > > > > David M. Leuser, II > Assistant Network Administrator > New Hampton School > (603) 744-3182 x121 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you lots of power, > with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy > entire cities. > Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive > manner, it is not a > good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite the > wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide > > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: Weekly machine password changes (RE: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind)
Hi Nir, I think the password changing is initiated by the client. Perhaps these two articles from MS knowledge base are of interest: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 I hope this helps, Wolfi On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 05:44:34PM +0200, Nir Soffer wrote: > > No big surprise there. :) > > I'm still trying to figure exactly what goes on with the machine > password changing around. Who initiates this? nmbd? The PDC? Who's > notified of this change, and what's going on there. > > Perhaps someone can shed some light? > > > -- > Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=- > "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely crying son > O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is yet to come" > -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song > > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Leuser II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:28 PM > > To: Nir Soffer > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind > > > > > > Restarting winbind didn't change things at all... I honestly > > have no idea > > what caused it, but I rejoined my server to the domain with > > smbpasswd, and > > the problems dissappeared. Go figure. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > I've seen a similar problem to that when running winbind... Try > > restarting winbind? I'm starting to have a feeling that if the machine > > password is reset by nmbd, winbindd never finds out. > > > > Anyone have any comments to that regard? I'm trying to reproduce the > > problem in a controlled environment right now, but have yet to see it > > again. > > > > Nir. > > > > > > -- > > Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=- > > "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely > > crying son > > O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is > > yet to come" > > -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: David Leuser II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:04 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > i had everything samba working PERFECT a few days ago, > > > meantime something > > > has changed or something i've changed, i know not what, is > > > causing me to > > > not be able to authenticate domain users... it just plain > > > doesn't work. i > > > haven't changed anything in /etc/pam.d/, but i checked on it and > > > everything there is still ok wbinfo -u lists all the > > > users just swell. > > > One wierd thing i noticed (beside the problem), if i do "ps > > > -aux | grep > > > winbind" winbind doesn't show, but if i just "ps -aux" it IS in THAT > > > list... > > > > > > i was messing around with red hats print manager utility > > > (which somehow is > > > supposed to use samba's smbclient, didn't work btw)... i > > don't know if > > > that broke something? any ideas? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > David M. Leuser, II > > > Assistant Network Administrator > > > New Hampton School > > > (603) 744-3182 x121 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you > > lots of power, > > > with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy > > > entire cities. > > > Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive > > > manner, it is not a > > > good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite the > > > wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David M. Leuser, II > > Assistant Network Administrator > > New Hampton School > > (603) 744-3182 x121 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you lots of power, > > with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy > > entire cities. > > Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive > > manner, it is not a > > good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite the > > wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: Weekly machine password changes (RE: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind)
Oops, I actually meant http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q175468 Sorry for that, Wolfi > > Hi Nir, > > I think the password changing is initiated by the client. Perhaps these > two articles from MS knowledge base are of interest: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 > > I hope this helps, > > Wolfi > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: Weekly machine password changes (RE: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind)
Hmm. According to these articles, if I change the machine password change interval in smb.conf to an impossible value (1,000,000 days), the PDC would never know, and/or care? Is this true? Thanks, Nir. -- Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=- "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely crying son O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is yet to come" -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song > -Original Message- > From: Wolfram Quester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:44 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Mac; Nir Soffer > Subject: Re: Weekly machine password changes (RE: RE: [Samba] > odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind) > > > Oops, I actually meant > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q175468 > > Sorry for that, > > Wolfi > > > > > Hi Nir, > > > > I think the password changing is initiated by the client. > Perhaps these > > two articles from MS knowledge base are of interest: > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501 > > > > I hope this helps, > > > > Wolfi > > > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
