[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
Hi, On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:18:07PM -0700, technomage wrote: > as a suggestion, the mailing list needs to be reconfigured to have a reply-to > field added. Not really. For more details, have a look at the archive. It has been discussed on this and hundreds of other lists. > when I hit reply, its generally to the users, not the list. Yes, that's intended. If you hit the "reply-to-author"-button the mail goes to the author and if you press the "reply-to-list"-button the answer goes to the list. Pretty simple (and not unusual for mailing lists) :-) Bye, Henning
[sane-devel] saned
Hi, On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:35:00PM -0400, Brian K. White wrote: > Is there a windows saned client? Yes. See the frontends page: http://panda.mostang.com/sane/sane-frontends.html At least XSane and SaneTwain should work. Bye, Henning
[sane-devel] xsane 0.91 ok?
Hi, Oliver Rauch released xsane-0.91 but suggested waiting for feedback. I haven't seen any, be it good or bad. I just started using xsane with version 0.82 that is on my system. Any reason not to move to 0.91? Jim
[sane-devel] Reflecta digitdia 3600 slide scanner
Hi, On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:44:01PM +0200, Thomas Hahn wrote: > today I couldn't resist and ordered such a reflecta scanner. > Its main feature is the capability to scan slides in their native > magazine. Meaning you dont have to take the slides out of the magazine > in order to scan it. > Batch scanning should be easily possible. > External interfaces are USB2 and Firewire. > Trying google, I didnt find many hits with sane and reflecta. It's not mentioned in our lists either. > So I guess, this scanner will not be supported and I have to use > the program that comes with the package under M$. You could check if vuescan (commercial software) supports it. > Any comments? Check if it's compatible to other supported film scanners. When you have it, please plug it in under Linux and show us the output of /proc/bus/usb/devices. Oh, and start writing a backend, please :-) http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/misc/unsupported.html Bye, Henning
[sane-devel] Reflecta digitdia 3600 slide scanner
Thomas, > today I couldn't resist and ordered such a reflecta scanner. > Its main feature is the capability to scan slides in their native > magazine. Meaning you dont have to take the slides out of the magazine > in order to scan it. > Batch scanning should be easily possible. > External interfaces are USB2 and Firewire. Good -- Firewire means that it probably uses a SCSI protocol over SBP2. > Trying google, I didnt find many hits with sane and reflecta. > So I guess, this scanner will not be supported and I have to use > the program that comes with the package under M$. Try writing to Reflecta, asking for the programming specs to be released. Refer to SANE as THE platform-independent scanning solution that has a wide user base in the UNIX world, and that there are a large number of users who would buy this scanner if it had support under UNIX. I did this with Nikon and it worked. It also helps if you mention that many popular brands have released their specs (at least to individuals), EPSON and Nikon for instance. It is OK to sign an NDA as long as it allows you to distribute code under the GPL (this is the case with Nikon -- the specs are confidential, but the code can be GPL-d). Andras === Major Andras e-mail: and...@users.sourceforge.net www:http://andras.webhop.org/ ===
[sane-devel] Reflecta digitdia 3600 slide scanner
Hi there, today I couldn't resist and ordered such a reflecta scanner. Its main feature is the capability to scan slides in their native magazine. Meaning you dont have to take the slides out of the magazine in order to scan it. Batch scanning should be easily possible. External interfaces are USB2 and Firewire. Trying google, I didnt find many hits with sane and reflecta. So I guess, this scanner will not be supported and I have to use the program that comes with the package under M$. Any comments? Tnx Thomas -- Thomas Hahn == thah...@t-online.de
[sane-devel] Umax Astra 2200 SCSI/USB
Hi, On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:30:39PM +0200, blub wrote: > I tried xsane with my Scanner connecete to SCSI or USB. When I run the > "preview" the scanner works even if the preview is very bad. But when I > push "SCAN" the scanner starts, moves a view centimeters (I think up to the > point where the scanner starts to calibrate) and than the whole system > crashes (connectet to SCSI) even the "Num" key stops working. Looks like a kernel bug. Probably in the SCSI driver? Try scanimage at the command line (CRTL-ALT-F1, not an xterm). E.g. scanimage >image.pnm. Do you get messages from the kernel in this case? > When connectet to the USB, only Xsane freezes. When I dissconnect the > scanner from the powersupply, than the System freezes. That last one may be also a kernel bug. It occurs if you unplug the scanner and then try to read from or write to it. Please show us log files for the xsane freeze, e.g. SANE_DEBUG_UMAX=255 SANE_DEBUG_SANEI_USB=255 xsane 2>log And now try to get the freeze. The debug messages are in the file "log". > Where to search the error. I am us linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and sane- > backends 1.0.11 sane-frontends 1.0.10 xsane 0.90 You can try to use libusb instead of the kernel USB scanner driver. But as both USB and SCSI fail, tehre may be also a problem with the backend. Bye, Henning
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 button with 2 arrows? uh, I forgot to mention. I'm blind. so GUI interfaces don't mean a lot to me. I use my scanner (Primax Compact 4800 using the mustek backend) for OCR work in linux and also in windows. btw, for henning: you need to list the primax compact 4800 scsi as working with the mustek paragon 600 II cd backend. Thats what I've been using for a long time now and it works reasonably well (600x300 dpi, no glitches). only problem I see with it is that it only likes adaptec 29xx series or advansys scsi cards. anything else tends to cause problems. Mage On Friday 23 May 2003 04:29 pm, Martin Kho wrote: > Hi Mage, > > Just use the button with the two arrows :-) > > bye, > > Martin > > On Saturday 24 May 2003 00:53, technomage wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I am using kmail in linux here, > > the reply to list (L) shows both the list and the author. I'm on quite a > > few other lists and they've often gone to the option of having > > "reply-to:" in their firlds because of the difficulties that not having > > it can cause with some clients. > > > > Mage > > > > On Friday 23 May 2003 02:36 pm, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:18:07PM -0700, technomage wrote: > > > > as a suggestion, the mailing list needs to be reconfigured to have a > > > > reply-to field added. > > > > > > Not really. For more details, have a look at the archive. It has been > > > discussed on this and hundreds of other lists. > > > > > > > when I hit reply, its generally to the users, not the list. > > > > > > Yes, that's intended. If you hit the "reply-to-author"-button the mail > > > goes to the author and if you press the "reply-to-list"-button the > > > answer goes to the list. Pretty simple (and not unusual for mailing > > > lists) :-) > > > > > > Bye, > > > Henning > > > ___ > > > Sane-devel mailing list > > > sane-de...@www.mostang.com > > > http://www.mostang.com/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel > > > > - -- > > I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or > > numbered! > > My life is my own - No. 6 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+zqZ5n/usgigAaLcRAllAAJ44iLa7Z8u6l1jBJImmfaGSgTqo4wCfZDcR > > Gq9ypIVJkdIqbfiVsT+PUp0= > > =Yjgc > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > ___ > > Sane-devel mailing list > > sane-de...@www.mostang.com > > http://www.mostang.com/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel - -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+zrJpn/usgigAaLcRAnsyAJkBL2ASiqLNyAyfAJhRpCAt6NMNDgCdGYT/ 6Dl5TnwPBXP3Nv3d/rQWCcM= =6BD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[sane-devel] Umax Astra 2200 SCSI/USB
On Friday 23 May 2003 15:30, blub wrote: > Hi, > > I tried xsane with my Scanner connecete to SCSI or USB. When I run the > "preview" the scanner works even if the preview is very bad. But when I > push "SCAN" the scanner starts, moves a view centimeters (I think up to the > point where the scanner starts to calibrate) and than the whole system > crashes (connectet to SCSI) even the "Num" key stops working. When > connectet to the USB, only Xsane freezes. When I dissconnect the scanner > from the powersupply, than the System freezes. > > Where to search the error. I am us linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and sane- > backends 1.0.11 sane-frontends 1.0.10 xsane 0.90 > > And the Scanner is a UMAX ASTRA 2200 V2.0 connected either/or SCSI/USB > > THX for help Hi. I had the same prob. several years ago which was solved by making the scanner the end of the scsi chain and leaving out the termination plug. Worth a try no? Cheers, Steve.
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am using kmail in linux here, the reply to list (L) shows both the list and the author. I'm on quite a few other lists and they've often gone to the option of having "reply-to:" in their firlds because of the difficulties that not having it can cause with some clients. Mage On Friday 23 May 2003 02:36 pm, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:18:07PM -0700, technomage wrote: > > as a suggestion, the mailing list needs to be reconfigured to have a > > reply-to field added. > > Not really. For more details, have a look at the archive. It has been > discussed on this and hundreds of other lists. > > > when I hit reply, its generally to the users, not the list. > > Yes, that's intended. If you hit the "reply-to-author"-button the mail > goes to the author and if you press the "reply-to-list"-button the > answer goes to the list. Pretty simple (and not unusual for mailing > lists) :-) > > Bye, > Henning > ___ > Sane-devel mailing list > sane-de...@www.mostang.com > http://www.mostang.com/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel - -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+zqZ5n/usgigAaLcRAllAAJ44iLa7Z8u6l1jBJImmfaGSgTqo4wCfZDcR Gq9ypIVJkdIqbfiVsT+PUp0= =Yjgc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[sane-devel] saned
Is there a windows saned client? I would love to just leave my scanner plugged into my freebsd box and once in a while scan something from my windows box or my laptop without moving it. Brian K. White -- br...@aljex.com -- http://www.aljex.com/bkw/ +[>+++[>+>+++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+.+++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO Prosper/FACTS AutoCAD #callahans Satriani
[sane-devel] Umax Astra 2200 SCSI/USB
Hi, I tried xsane with my Scanner connecete to SCSI or USB. When I run the "preview" the scanner works even if the preview is very bad. But when I push "SCAN" the scanner starts, moves a view centimeters (I think up to the point where the scanner starts to calibrate) and than the whole system crashes (connectet to SCSI) even the "Num" key stops working. When connectet to the USB, only Xsane freezes. When I dissconnect the scanner from the powersupply, than the System freezes. Where to search the error. I am us linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and sane- backends 1.0.11 sane-frontends 1.0.10 xsane 0.90 And the Scanner is a UMAX ASTRA 2200 V2.0 connected either/or SCSI/USB THX for help -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- >Running on Gentoo Linux<--
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
Hi, Please respond to the list, not to me. On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:03:57AM -0700, technomage wrote: > > Does it get started at all? Run "telnet localhost sane". Do you get a > > "connection refused" or does it wait for input? If it waits, saned > > runs ok. Otherwise check /var/log/messages (or wherever xinetd places > > its messages) for errors. > I get "connection refused" immediately Ok, so it's a xinetd issue, not a saned issue. Check the log files. > > Does the saned user and group exist? > no, and I am not sure how to add non-user groups/users to my system (and I > don't trust linuxconf to do it right). > perhaps I should place it in user = nobody, group=nobody? You can do that. It may not be wise for security reasons, however. For Debian, there is "adduser --system" for this kind of job. Bye, Henning
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 well, I got it solved. right now, its under user/group nobody (this is inside a lan and the port that is uses is protected at the firewall machine, so no one outside the lan can use it). finally got it working last night. the user existed, but the group did not. use of the groupadd --system-account command worked wonders at solving this. in any case, thanks for the help. as a suggestion, the mailing list needs to be reconfigured to have a reply-to field added. when I hit reply, its generally to the users, not the list. thanks.. Mage On Friday 23 May 2003 06:42 am, Brian K. White wrote: > > the whole point of inetd (and later xinetd) is that the services > themselves do not run all the time, only the one service, inetd (or > xinetd) runs, listening on all the ports of all the services that have > been configured in it. When something tries to open a port it recognizes, > it starts up the appropriate service to service that one request and then > the service goes away again. > > what tcp port does saned work on? > is that port listed in /etc/services? > .. I just looked at man saned and see it's port 6566, so, > does /etc/services have a line like this? > > sane 6566/tcp > > run netstat -a |less > The top of this output shows all the ports that your box is listening on, > and all the ports that currently have active connections. > Is the saned port listed in there as "... *.* ... LISTEN" > > did you try running "saned -d" manually? this runs it in a manner where > saned itself does stay running, listening on the saned tcp port and debug > info will show on the session where you ran it until you ctrl-c in that > session. This will probably fail if saned is in fact correctly configured > in xinetd because xinetd is already "occupying" the saned port and no > other program can listen on that port until xinetd gives it up. you can > turn off xinetd, or temporarily disable the saned config and restart > xinetd. Then try saned -d (then try to connect) > > what are the contents of saned.conf? > are the names/ip's listed in there really how your box resolves the > various machines that try to connect? > try putting a single "+" on a line by itself in saned.conf, since (you > didn't say but I will presume) this is a linux box and probably you are > running tcpd to block unsafe hosts from touching your box anyway. > (/etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny) > > did you copy the sample xinetd file from the saned man page verbatim? If > so, is there any such user and group as "saned" or did you change those to > show names that exist on your box? - -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+zpAPn/usgigAaLcRAhQzAJ0aS/9PKJ/LvaXpMl7iv6oeMRrI7wCeK+Mv SEHJXvbsuB4/cUQ87TeZvvM= =FM/k -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[sane-devel] Umax Astra 2200 SCSI/USB
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:30:39PM +0200, blub wrote: > > I tried xsane with my Scanner connecete to SCSI or USB. When I run the > > "preview" the scanner works even if the preview is very bad. But when I > > push "SCAN" the scanner starts, moves a view centimeters (I think up to the > > point where the scanner starts to calibrate) and than the whole system > > crashes (connectet to SCSI) even the "Num" key stops working. > what scsi card do you use? i had a similar problem with my fujitsu and hp scanners and my AMD 53c974 scsi card (manufactured by tekram, they call it the dc-390) i solved this problem by changing the scsi driver in the linux kernel. there are two drivers for this card, tmscsim.o and AM53C974.o changing to the second one fixed my problem. several other scsi cards have multiple drivers (there are 3 for the ncr/symbios/lsi 800 series) you might try changing yours if possible. running the latest stable kernel is also a good idea. allan -- "so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know. money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls" - Max Cavalera
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
Hi, On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:36:18AM -0700, technomage wrote: > I placed a saned file under the xinet.d folder complete with the details from > the saned man page. I cannot report any success in it allowing hosts from > other boxes in my lan to connect. I have restarted xinetd to make sure things > were go Does it get started at all? Run "telnet localhost sane". Do you get a "connection refused" or does it wait for input? If it waits, saned runs ok. Otherwise check /var/log/messages (or wherever xinetd places its messages) for errors. Does the saned user and group exist? > (chkconfig reports saned is on but ps aex |grep saned reports that > there is no process under that name). saned is started by xinetd when you connect to the port, so that's noemal. > if I manually run saned, I can connect fine until I quite the application on > the remote machine (then saned quits). That's intended behaviour for the debug mode. bye, Henning
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
technomage wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > ok, > its been a very long time since I have been a part of this group. > I'm glad to be back. > > some issues have arisin and I'd like a little help troubleshooting them. > > it seems I can get sane working fine (using the Mustek Paragon II CD backend) > but I can't get saned working. > > I placed a saned file under the xinet.d folder complete with the details from > the saned man page. I cannot report any success in it allowing hosts from > other boxes in my lan to connect. I have restarted xinetd to make sure things > were go (chkconfig reports saned is on but ps aex |grep saned reports that > there is no process under that name). > > if I manually run saned, I can connect fine until I quite the application on > the remote machine (then saned quits). I'd like it to remain in memory and > offer the service. anything I am missing? > > Technomage the whole point of inetd (and later xinetd) is that the services themselves do not run all the time, only the one service, inetd (or xinetd) runs, listening on all the ports of all the services that have been configured in it. When something tries to open a port it recognizes, it starts up the appropriate service to service that one request and then the service goes away again. what tcp port does saned work on? is that port listed in /etc/services? .. I just looked at man saned and see it's port 6566, so, does /etc/services have a line like this? sane 6566/tcp run netstat -a |less The top of this output shows all the ports that your box is listening on, and all the ports that currently have active connections. Is the saned port listed in there as "... *.* ... LISTEN" did you try running "saned -d" manually? this runs it in a manner where saned itself does stay running, listening on the saned tcp port and debug info will show on the session where you ran it until you ctrl-c in that session. This will probably fail if saned is in fact correctly configured in xinetd because xinetd is already "occupying" the saned port and no other program can listen on that port until xinetd gives it up. you can turn off xinetd, or temporarily disable the saned config and restart xinetd. Then try saned -d (then try to connect) what are the contents of saned.conf? are the names/ip's listed in there really how your box resolves the various machines that try to connect? try putting a single "+" on a line by itself in saned.conf, since (you didn't say but I will presume) this is a linux box and probably you are running tcpd to block unsafe hosts from touching your box anyway. (/etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny) did you copy the sample xinetd file from the saned man page verbatim? If so, is there any such user and group as "saned" or did you change those to show names that exist on your box? -- Brian K. White -- br...@aljex.com -- http://www.aljex.com/bkw/ +[>+++[>+>+++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+.+++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO Prosper/FACTS AutoCAD #callahans Satriani
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
On Friday 23 May 2003 05:36, technomage wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >ok, >its been a very long time since I have been a part of this group. >I'm glad to be back. > >some issues have arisin and I'd like a little help troubleshooting > them. > >it seems I can get sane working fine (using the Mustek Paragon II > CD backend) but I can't get saned working. > >I placed a saned file under the xinet.d folder complete with the > details from the saned man page. I cannot report any success in > it allowing hosts from other boxes in my lan to connect. I have > restarted xinetd to make sure things were go (chkconfig reports > saned is on but ps aex |grep saned reports that there is no > process under that name). > >if I manually run saned, I can connect fine until I quite the > application on the remote machine (then saned quits). I'd like it > to remain in memory and offer the service. anything I am missing? > >Technomage In the saned file in /etc/xinetd.d, have to changed the line that says disable = yes to no? Thats a fairly commonly made error. If you have to fix it, restart xinetd. -- Cheers, Gene AMD K6-III@500mhz 320M Athlon1600XP@1400mhz 512M 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attornies please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2003 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
[sane-devel] well, I'm a retrurning user of sane... got some questions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ok, its been a very long time since I have been a part of this group. I'm glad to be back. some issues have arisin and I'd like a little help troubleshooting them. it seems I can get sane working fine (using the Mustek Paragon II CD backend) but I can't get saned working. I placed a saned file under the xinet.d folder complete with the details from the saned man page. I cannot report any success in it allowing hosts from other boxes in my lan to connect. I have restarted xinetd to make sure things were go (chkconfig reports saned is on but ps aex |grep saned reports that there is no process under that name). if I manually run saned, I can connect fine until I quite the application on the remote machine (then saned quits). I'd like it to remain in memory and offer the service. anything I am missing? Technomage - -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+zeuSn/usgigAaLcRAkFHAKCBgZMFxXk1XQ1KX3GAxxhCuCmQAQCfQ5PV 7iIJF58qRoC0XnSd1KJb+rw= =ACSz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
