[sane-devel] Can't get Canon MP360 working

2006-08-22 Thread Wittawat Yamwong
Hi Martin,

Your scanner seems to use the same command set as MP700/MP730 but there are 
still some differences, e.g. the command sequence for reading image data, the 
length of the interrupt packet (16 instead of 8 bytes) etc. You can derive 
your code from pixma_mp730.c in the pixma backend. (Please download the 
backend from http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma. I haven't updated CVS yet.) 
Add your scanner to the device list at the end of pixma_mp730.c:

  DEVICE("Canon PIXMA MP360", 0x263c, 1200, 636, 877, 0),

The backend should detect your scanner now. You may try scanning a _small_ 
area but don't expect that it'll work. Unfortunately, the source code is not 
documented. If you have any questions, just ask! :-)

Regards,
Wittawat

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 18:29, Martin Owens wrote:
> Thanks for your help.
>
> I don't really have a space to put them online, but the bz2 is only 4kb so
> I've attached it.
>
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
>
> On 8/22/06, Wittawat Yamwong  wrote:
> > [...]
> > What have you done so far? Have you already captured some USB traffics?
> > If so,
> > can you upload the log files somewhere in the internet? I could try to
> > modify
> > the pixma backend so that you need to add only protocol specific codes
> > and don't need to worry about SANE API for the present.

-- 
Wittawat Yamwong
Hannover, Germany


[sane-devel] Re: Best Scanner for Sane

2006-08-22 Thread terren...@ak.net
In response to the question of what I'm planning to scan,, it's 
mostly going to be text for OCR, but there will probably be a photo or 2 
from time to time.  So I'm trying to figure out the best scanner to do 
that with using sane.

Thanks,
Terrence


[sane-devel] Dell 1815dn

2006-08-22 Thread Jon Chambers

Hi,

I discovered today that a binary SANE (and CUPS) driver for Linux is 
provided for Dell 1815dn multifunction printer/scanner/copier.

Since it is provided by the manufacturer I presume that it supports the 
full set of functionality but I don't have one of these devices so I can't 
confirm for definite.

cheers,
Jon

== Jon Chambers =
  http://www.jon.demon.co.uk, 020 8575 7097, 07931 961669
=




[sane-devel] Problem with sane plustek_pp

2006-08-22 Thread Flavio Lopes
Hi,

 From the sane-backend 1.0.17  version to 1.0.18, I have a small problem 
with my scanner plustek p12.  Although it scans images correctly, the 
carriage of the scanner does not return, after scan or pre-scan.  This 
is truth as for slackware 10.2, updated from current, as for Fedora Core 
5.  Doing the downgrade for the version 1.0.16, the scanner comes back 
to works correctly.  Someone has a solution for that?


-- 
[]s,

Flavio J. M. Lopes
flavi...@wnetrj.com.br



[sane-devel] Best scanners to use with SANE?

2006-08-22 Thread m. allan noah

uhm, you left out something really important? what are you scanning :)

allan

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 terren...@ak.net wrote:

>   Does anyone have any suggestions on the best scanner for working with 
> Sane?  I'm thinking I'll probably get a scanner in October specifically based 
> on what works with SANE, instead of what I did last year, getting the scanner 
> and then realizing too late that it wouldn't work.  I'm looking for something 
> that will be the least time-consuming to get working as I want to be able to 
> spend the time scanning, not fighting with my scanner.  I'm running SANE on 
> an e-machines 433MHZ PC with Oralux, a Knoppix-based operating system without 
> X11.  Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Terrence
>
>

-- 
"so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know.
money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls" - Max Cavalera


[sane-devel] Image Compression doesn't support in SANE protocal

2006-08-22 Thread m. allan noah
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Ren? Rebe wrote:

>
> On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:51 PM, m. allan noah wrote:
>
>> now that many low-end scanners support jpeg natively (some ONLY do jpeg!) i 
>> expect we will see more need for this.
>
> Oh!
>
>> as a short term fix, rather than adding a new sane_frame type, the backend 
>> can extract the compressed data, convert to raw bitmap. then frontend can 
>> convert to any compressed format it wants. this is not as efficient as 
>> keeping the compressed version the entire way through, but it works now.
>> 
>> dell networked scanner backend works this way.
>
> Well that stinks as you lose a lot of detail with the lossy jpeg 
> decompression.

even worse, if you are running the thing over the net backend, you convert 
to huge bitmap just before you transfer it over the network!

>
> Maybe let's add the JPEG frame type rather soon (even in SANE 1) and let's 
> add an IR (infra red) frame specification on the way as good film scanner 
> deliver for dust and the-like removal.

agreed. though i would think we would need to make a well-known option 
like 'compression' or 'format' that such backends would have to implement, 
with the default being 'bitmap'. these backends would then 'unjpeg' the 
files before passing to frontend, and existing frontends will continue to 
work. then the user must manually set the option to something other than 
'bitmap', if he knows his frontend supports this.

SANE2 could require that the frontend support jpeg, and that could become 
the default for the 'format' option.

allan

>
> Yours,
>

-- 
"so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know.
money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls" - Max Cavalera
From terren...@ak.net  Tue Aug 22 17:57:51 2006
From: terren...@ak.net (terren...@ak.net)
Date: Tue Aug 22 17:59:19 2006
Subject: [sane-devel] Best scanners to use with SANE?
Message-ID: 

Does anyone have any suggestions on the best scanner for working 
with Sane?  I'm thinking I'll probably get a scanner in October 
specifically based on what works with SANE, instead of what I did last 
year, getting the scanner and then realizing too late that it wouldn't 
work.  I'm looking for something that will be the least time-consuming to 
get working as I want to be able to spend the time scanning, not fighting 
with my scanner.  I'm running SANE on an e-machines 433MHZ PC with Oralux, 
a Knoppix-based operating system without X11.  Any advice on this would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Terrence


[sane-devel] Can't get Canon MP360 working

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Owens
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From an...@pfeiffer.edu  Tue Aug 22 17:22:26 2006
From: an...@pfeiffer.edu (m. allan noah)
Date: Tue Aug 22 17:23:05 2006
Subject: [sane-devel] Error when reading from Fujitsu fi-5120c
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power cycle the scanner, and run this command as root:

SANE_DEBUG_FUJITSU=15 scanimage --help 2>5120.log

then lets see the 5120.log file.

allan

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Matthew wrote:

> I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 with all the latest updates and Sane backend 1.0.18 
> compiled from source along with Xsane .0991.
>
> When I try to scan using scanimage or xsane either as root or as normal user 
> I get the following error.
>
> "Error during read: Error during device I/O."
>
> I've read just about every instruction on setting up Sane and so far I can't 
> get it to work.  I did get it to work once, but then it stopped. I believe I 
> manually changed the usb permissions.  I've tried to figure out the hotplug 
> stuff, but so far I've failed at everything.
>
> Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong or not doing?
>
>
>

-- 
"so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know.
money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls" - Max Cavalera


[sane-devel] Can't get Canon MP360 working

2006-08-22 Thread Wittawat Yamwong
On Monday 21 August 2006 23:23, Martin Owens wrote:
> I've being looking at getting this scanner working for over a week. various
> tutorials and guides for making the driver. but I'm floundering.
>
> does anybody have some time to guide me through the process perhaps in irc?

I cannot help you in IRC but I'm interested in your driver. If the protocol is 
similar enough, perhaps you can reuse the code of the pixma backend.

What have you done so far? Have you already captured some USB traffics? If so, 
can you upload the log files somewhere in the internet? I could try to modify 
the pixma backend so that you need to add only protocol specific codes and 
don't need to worry about SANE API for the present.

Regards
-- 
Wittawat Yamwong
Hannover, Germany


[sane-devel] Error when reading from Fujitsu fi-5120c

2006-08-22 Thread Matthew
I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 with all the latest updates and Sane backend 
1.0.18 compiled from source along with Xsane .0991.

When I try to scan using scanimage or xsane either as root or as normal 
user I get the following error.

"Error during read: Error during device I/O."

I've read just about every instruction on setting up Sane and so far I 
can't get it to work.  I did get it to work once, but then it stopped. 
I believe I manually changed the usb permissions.  I've tried to figure 
out the hotplug stuff, but so far I've failed at everything.

Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong or not doing?



Re: (ÈðÐÇÌáʾ-´ËÓʼþ¿ÉÄÜÊÇÀ¬»øÓʼþ)Re: [sane-devel] Image Compression doesn't support in SANE protocal

2006-08-22 Thread zf
Yes, xsane can save file in a compressed format. But before that we must 
decompress the data from scanner and then transfer it to xsane and then xsane 
compress the image So we can't use the compressed data from scanner 
directly, then the scanner's speed is slow down.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ren? Rebe" 
To: "zf" 
Cc: "OrgSane-Devel@Lists. Alioth. Debian." 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: (-)Re: [sane-devel] Image Compression 
doesn't support in SANE protocal


> On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, zf wrote:
> 
>>  I found no image compression support is added in SANE. When  
>> scanning with high resolutions such 600 x 600 dpi and uses color  
>> scan, the result image will be very large!
>> So many scanners support compress transfer:scanner compress the  
>> image data and transfer compressed data to driver. In SANE the  
>> images transfered between backend and frontend are strict limited.I  
>> think it' better if SANE add some file transfer type like TWAIN.
> 
> Most scanners do not support compression anyway. Such features are  
> only found in 5000 EUR and above devices. If you just want to save  
> files in a compressed format just use a decent application such as  
> xsane and not the example programs such as xscanimage ,-)
> 
> Yours,
>
From an...@pfeiffer.edu  Tue Aug 22 12:51:32 2006
From: an...@pfeiffer.edu (m. allan noah)
Date: Tue Aug 22 12:52:33 2006
Subject: [sane-devel] Image Compression doesn't support in SANE protocal
In-Reply-To: <016601c6c5cf$1447a6a0$4300a...@vp.com>
References: <00df01c6c5b1$a6d22130$4300a...@vp.com>

<016601c6c5cf$1447a6a0$4300a...@vp.com>
Message-ID: 

now that many low-end scanners support jpeg natively (some ONLY do jpeg!) 
i expect we will see more need for this.

as a short term fix, rather than adding a new sane_frame type, the backend 
can extract the compressed data, convert to raw bitmap. then frontend can 
convert to any compressed format it wants. this is not as efficient as 
keeping the compressed version the entire way through, but it works now.

dell networked scanner backend works this way.

allan

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, zf wrote:

>Yes, xsane can save file in a compressed format. But before that we must 
> decompress the data from scanner and then transfer it to xsane and then xsane 
> compress the image So we can't use the compressed data from scanner 
> directly, then the scanner's speed is slow down.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ren? Rebe" 
> To: "zf" 
> Cc: "OrgSane-Devel@Lists. Alioth. Debian." 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:19 PM
> Subject: (-)Re: [sane-devel] Image Compression 
> doesn't support in SANE protocal
>
>
>> On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, zf wrote:
>>
>>>  I found no image compression support is added in SANE. When
>>> scanning with high resolutions such 600 x 600 dpi and uses color
>>> scan, the result image will be very large!
>>> So many scanners support compress transfer:scanner compress the
>>> image data and transfer compressed data to driver. In SANE the
>>> images transfered between backend and frontend are strict limited.I
>>> think it' better if SANE add some file transfer type like TWAIN.
>>
>> Most scanners do not support compression anyway. Such features are
>> only found in 5000 EUR and above devices. If you just want to save
>> files in a compressed format just use a decent application such as
>> xsane and not the example programs such as xscanimage ,-)
>>
>> Yours,
>>

-- 
"so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know.
money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls" - Max Cavalera
From r...@exactcode.de  Tue Aug 22 12:56:17 2006
From: r...@exactcode.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Rebe?=)
Date: Tue Aug 22 12:57:50 2006
Subject: [sane-devel] Image Compression doesn't support in SANE protocal
In-Reply-To: 
References: <00df01c6c5b1$a6d22130$4300a...@vp.com>

<016601c6c5cf$1447a6a0$4300a...@vp.com>

Message-ID: <7cbc1e6c-1e62-4faa-a01e-afae88a8c...@exactcode.de>


On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:51 PM, m. allan noah wrote:

> now that many low-end scanners support jpeg natively (some ONLY do  
> jpeg!) i expect we will see more need for this.

Oh!

> as a short term fix, rather than adding a new sane_frame type, the  
> backend can extract the compressed data, convert to raw bitmap.  
> then frontend can convert to any compressed format it wants. this  
> is not as efficient as keeping the compressed version the entire  
> way through, but it works now.
>
> dell networked scanner backend works this way.

Well that stinks as you lose a lot of detail with the lossy jpeg  
decompression.

Maybe let's add the JPEG frame type rather soon (even in SANE 1) and  
let's add an IR (infra red) frame specification on the way as good  
film scanner deliver for dust and the-like removal.

Yours,


[sane-devel] Image Compression doesn't support in SANE protocal

2006-08-22 Thread zf
 I found no image compression support is added in SANE. When scanning with high 
resolutions such 600 x 600 dpi and uses color scan, the result image will be 
very large! 
So many scanners support compress transfer:scanner compress the image data 
and transfer compressed data to driver. In SANE the images transfered between 
backend and frontend are strict limited.I think it' better if SANE add some 
file transfer type like TWAIN.
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Date: Tue Aug 22 09:20:44 2006
Subject: [sane-devel] Image Compression doesn't support in SANE protocal
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On Aug 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, zf wrote:

>  I found no image compression support is added in SANE. When  
> scanning with high resolutions such 600 x 600 dpi and uses color  
> scan, the result image will be very large!
> So many scanners support compress transfer:scanner compress the  
> image data and transfer compressed data to driver. In SANE the  
> images transfered between backend and frontend are strict limited.I  
> think it' better if SANE add some file transfer type like TWAIN.

Most scanners do not support compression anyway. Such features are  
only found in 5000 EUR and above devices. If you just want to save  
files in a compressed format just use a decent application such as  
xsane and not the example programs such as xscanimage ,-)

Yours,


[sane-devel] sane_control_option() confusion

2006-08-22 Thread Étienne Bersac

> It is the n that I am confused about. Specifically, what does n = 0 mean?
0 is the index of the "option count" option. 


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