[sane-devel] infoprint 1650 mfp
Hi Torfinn, Yes, I think you are right. It sounds like the scanback program is actually creating some sort of temporary scan-to-ftp. It looks like a good idea to try to set up a permanent link - and then it could just as well be an Ubuntu target. Ilan On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ilan Tal wrote: > > Hello, > > I may be asking something impossible. If so, please let me know. > > > > I have an infoprint 1650 mfp printer/scanner which is on a LAN, stand > alone > > and not connected to any particular computer. The printer part works just > > fine, out-of-the-box. The scanner part is another story. SANE doesn't > detect > > the scanner. > > The documentation is here: > > http://infoprint.com/internet/ipww.nsf/vwWebPublished/supwg_infoprint-1650-mfp_en > > User guide claims that this model has scan-to-email and scan-to-ftp > site capabilities. > Wouldn't it be easier just to set up that? > > HTH > -- > Regards, > Torfinn Ingolfsen > > -- > sane-devel mailing list: sane-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel > Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password" > to sane-devel-request at lists.alioth.debian.org > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/attachments/20110911/52552794/attachment.html>
[sane-devel] infoprint 1650 mfp
Allan, I agree that it would be more desirable to have Ubuntu start the process, but from what I see even the great Windows can't do that. First the Windows operator "initiates" the scan under Windows. Then a minute or so until she gets up from the Windows machine and walks over to the printer. She presses a button on the printer and THAT is what is doing the work. When the printer is done with the scan, it sends the pdf file back to the Windows folder. I would be perfectly happy to try to contribute anything I can since I would like to dump Windows. The question is: will wireshark give me the string which Windows is apparently sending to the printer. Maybe there is an easier way to know what string is being sent? Because of the long time delay, and the necessary user intervention at the printer, I seriously doubt that the Windows process is in charge. Ilan On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 6:09 PM, m. allan noah wrote: > I would not have it write back to a shared folder if I could prevent > it. It makes more sense to send it over the wire to the process which > initiated the scan. However, the specifics are entirely dependent on > the hardware itself. If you wish to make it work, the first step is > for you to learn to make a wireshark trace of the windows software. No > one else has access to the hardware. > > allan > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Ilan Tal wrote: > > Sorry that I tend to keep my contact with Windows to a minimum. It is my > > friend's printer and I watched her run it under Windows and then I went > to > > my Ubuntu machine. It is definitely Ricoh, scanback 3.3.3 (maybe only > 3.3?) > > The printer is an IBM Infoprint 1650 MFP. > > I'm not familiar with a wireshark trace. I guess you would like me to > > capture whatever the scanback is sending to the printer. I suppose if we > > knew what it was sending, we could send the same string from Ubuntu and > have > > it ship back to a shared folder on Ubuntu the resulting pdf file. > > > > Ilan > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:19 PM, m. allan noah > wrote: > >> > >> Well, you could start by telling us the brand name, Ricoh perhaps? > >> Second, perhaps you could get a wireshark trace of the windows driver > >> making a small, low resolution network scan? Make sure you capture the > >> entire packet length. Then compress that log, and put it up on the web > >> where we can reach it. Perhaps someone will recognize the protocol. > >> > >> allan > >> > >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ilan Tal wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > I may be asking something impossible. If so, please let me know. > >> > > >> > I have an infoprint 1650 mfp printer/scanner which is on a LAN, stand > >> > alone > >> > and not connected to any particular computer. The printer part works > >> > just > >> > fine, out-of-the-box. The scanner part is another story. SANE doesn't > >> > detect > >> > the scanner. > >> > > >> > In Windows there is a "scanback" program which basically puts a > >> > "protocol" > >> > on the printer by which the user put the document into the scanner, > >> > presses > >> > a button on the scanner and the document is scanned and a pdf file is > >> > shipped over the LAN to the Windows PC. Thus it seems clear that > Windows > >> > too > >> > doesn't directly see the scanner. Apparently this is the reason SANE > >> > doesn't > >> > see it either. > >> > > >> > Since Windows has a solution, I would like a solution for Ubuntu as > >> > well. > >> > Otherwise one is stuck with Windows. I wonder if anyone has any ideas > on > >> > what might be available, or how to solve the problem? > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Ilan > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > sane-devel mailing list: sane-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org > >> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel > >> > Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password" > >> > to sane-devel-request at lists.alioth.debian.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> "The truth is an offense, but not a sin" > > > > > > > > -- > "The truth is an offense, but not a sin" > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/attachments/20110911/b5d0e648/attachment-0001.html>
[sane-devel] infoprint 1650 mfp
Hello, On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ilan Tal wrote: > Hello, > I may be asking something impossible. If so, please let me know. > > I have an infoprint 1650 mfp printer/scanner which is on a LAN, stand alone > and not connected to any particular computer. The printer part works just > fine, out-of-the-box. The scanner part is another story. SANE doesn't detect > the scanner. The documentation is here: http://infoprint.com/internet/ipww.nsf/vwWebPublished/supwg_infoprint-1650-mfp_en User guide claims that this model has scan-to-email and scan-to-ftp site capabilities. Wouldn't it be easier just to set up that? HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen
[sane-devel] infoprint 1650 mfp
Sorry that I tend to keep my contact with Windows to a minimum. It is my friend's printer and I watched her run it under Windows and then I went to my Ubuntu machine. It is definitely Ricoh, scanback 3.3.3 (maybe only 3.3?) The printer is an IBM Infoprint 1650 MFP. I'm not familiar with a wireshark trace. I guess you would like me to capture whatever the scanback is sending to the printer. I suppose if we knew what it was sending, we could send the same string from Ubuntu and have it ship back to a shared folder on Ubuntu the resulting pdf file. Ilan On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:19 PM, m. allan noah wrote: > Well, you could start by telling us the brand name, Ricoh perhaps? > Second, perhaps you could get a wireshark trace of the windows driver > making a small, low resolution network scan? Make sure you capture the > entire packet length. Then compress that log, and put it up on the web > where we can reach it. Perhaps someone will recognize the protocol. > > allan > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ilan Tal wrote: > > Hello, > > I may be asking something impossible. If so, please let me know. > > > > I have an infoprint 1650 mfp printer/scanner which is on a LAN, stand > alone > > and not connected to any particular computer. The printer part works just > > fine, out-of-the-box. The scanner part is another story. SANE doesn't > detect > > the scanner. > > > > In Windows there is a "scanback" program which basically puts a > "protocol" > > on the printer by which the user put the document into the scanner, > presses > > a button on the scanner and the document is scanned and a pdf file is > > shipped over the LAN to the Windows PC. Thus it seems clear that Windows > too > > doesn't directly see the scanner. Apparently this is the reason SANE > doesn't > > see it either. > > > > Since Windows has a solution, I would like a solution for Ubuntu as well. > > Otherwise one is stuck with Windows. I wonder if anyone has any ideas on > > what might be available, or how to solve the problem? > > > > Thanks, > > Ilan > > > > > > -- > > sane-devel mailing list: sane-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel > > Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password" > > to sane-devel-request at lists.alioth.debian.org > > > > > > -- > "The truth is an offense, but not a sin" > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/attachments/20110911/3385bcea/attachment.html>
[sane-devel] infoprint 1650 mfp
Hello, I may be asking something impossible. If so, please let me know. I have an infoprint 1650 mfp printer/scanner which is on a LAN, stand alone and not connected to any particular computer. The printer part works just fine, out-of-the-box. The scanner part is another story. SANE doesn't detect the scanner. In Windows there is a "scanback" program which basically puts a "protocol" on the printer by which the user put the document into the scanner, presses a button on the scanner and the document is scanned and a pdf file is shipped over the LAN to the Windows PC. Thus it seems clear that Windows too doesn't directly see the scanner. Apparently this is the reason SANE doesn't see it either. Since Windows has a solution, I would like a solution for Ubuntu as well. Otherwise one is stuck with Windows. I wonder if anyone has any ideas on what might be available, or how to solve the problem? Thanks, Ilan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/attachments/20110911/cc7e5307/attachment.html>
[sane-devel] infoprint 1650 mfp
I would not have it write back to a shared folder if I could prevent it. It makes more sense to send it over the wire to the process which initiated the scan. However, the specifics are entirely dependent on the hardware itself. If you wish to make it work, the first step is for you to learn to make a wireshark trace of the windows software. No one else has access to the hardware. allan On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Ilan Tal wrote: > Sorry that I tend to keep my contact with Windows to a minimum. It is my > friend's printer and I watched her run it under Windows and then I went to > my Ubuntu machine. It is definitely Ricoh, scanback 3.3.3 (maybe only 3.3?) > The printer is an IBM Infoprint 1650 MFP. > I'm not familiar with a wireshark trace. I guess you would like me to > capture whatever the scanback is sending to the printer. I suppose if we > knew what it was sending, we could send the same string from Ubuntu and have > it ship back to a shared folder on Ubuntu the resulting pdf file. > > Ilan > > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:19 PM, m. allan noah wrote: >> >> Well, you could start by telling us the brand name, Ricoh perhaps? >> Second, perhaps you could get a wireshark trace of the windows driver >> making a small, low resolution network scan? Make sure you capture the >> entire packet length. Then compress that log, and put it up on the web >> where we can reach it. Perhaps someone will recognize the protocol. >> >> allan >> >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ilan Tal wrote: >> > Hello, >> > I may be asking something impossible. If so, please let me know. >> > >> > I have an infoprint 1650 mfp printer/scanner which is on a LAN, stand >> > alone >> > and not connected to any particular computer. The printer part works >> > just >> > fine, out-of-the-box. The scanner part is another story. SANE doesn't >> > detect >> > the scanner. >> > >> > In Windows there is a "scanback" program which basically puts a >> > "protocol" >> > on the printer by which the user put the document into the scanner, >> > presses >> > a button on the scanner and the document is scanned and a pdf file is >> > shipped over the LAN to the Windows PC. Thus it seems clear that Windows >> > too >> > doesn't directly see the scanner. Apparently this is the reason SANE >> > doesn't >> > see it either. >> > >> > Since Windows has a solution, I would like a solution for Ubuntu as >> > well. >> > Otherwise one is stuck with Windows. I wonder if anyone has any ideas on >> > what might be available, or how to solve the problem? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Ilan >> > >> > >> > -- >> > sane-devel mailing list: sane-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org >> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel >> > Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password" >> > ? ? ? ? ? ? to sane-devel-request at lists.alioth.debian.org >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> "The truth is an offense, but not a sin" > > -- "The truth is an offense, but not a sin"
[sane-devel] infoprint 1650 mfp
Well, you could start by telling us the brand name, Ricoh perhaps? Second, perhaps you could get a wireshark trace of the windows driver making a small, low resolution network scan? Make sure you capture the entire packet length. Then compress that log, and put it up on the web where we can reach it. Perhaps someone will recognize the protocol. allan On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ilan Tal wrote: > Hello, > I may be asking something impossible. If so, please let me know. > > I have an infoprint 1650 mfp printer/scanner which is on a LAN, stand alone > and not connected to any particular computer. The printer part works just > fine, out-of-the-box. The scanner part is another story. SANE doesn't detect > the scanner. > > In Windows there is a "scanback" program which basically puts a "protocol" > on the printer by which the user put the document into the scanner, presses > a button on the scanner and the document is scanned and a pdf file is > shipped over the LAN to the Windows PC. Thus it seems clear that Windows too > doesn't directly see the scanner. Apparently this is the reason SANE doesn't > see it either. > > Since Windows has a solution, I would like a solution for Ubuntu as well. > Otherwise one is stuck with Windows. I wonder if anyone has any ideas on > what might be available, or how to solve the problem? > > Thanks, > Ilan > > > -- > sane-devel mailing list: sane-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel > Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password" > ? ? ? ? ? ? to sane-devel-request at lists.alioth.debian.org > -- "The truth is an offense, but not a sin"
