[sane-devel] Brother MFC-610 CLN scanner with network cable

2005-11-21 Thread Johannes Meixner

Hello,

On Nov 20 21:31 Martin Olof Andersson wrote (shortened):
 I have a combined printer/scanner. It is connected to my home network to a
 switch using a network cable. After fiddling a bit, I could get the printer
 working nicely, thanks to nice instructions at
 http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_wrapper_install.html
 
 I have then tried to install the scanner but I dont get it working. Maybe
 because I dont find any instructions or maybe because it is not possible? It
 seems to be prepared for usb scanners. But then I think, that if it works
 with usb, it should also work with a network cable.

No.

Reason:

Printing on normal printers work in a unidirectional way.
A normal printer driver for a normal printer produces the
printer-specific data without communication with the actual
printer hardware.
Then the printer-specific data is sent somehow to the actual
printer hardware (e.g. via simple TCP socket if it is a
network printer).

Scanning requires continuous bi-directional communication of
the driver with the actual scanner hardware.
Therefore the driver must be prepared to do this communication.
If the Brother driver does not support communication via network,
it will not work via network.


Kind Regards
Johannes Meixner
-- 
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5  Mail: jsm...@suse.de
90409 Nuernberg, GermanyWWW: http://www.suse.de/


[sane-devel] Brother MFC-610 CLN scanner with network cable

2005-11-20 Thread Martin Olof Andersson
Dear list

I have a combined printer/scanner. It is connected to my home network to a
switch using a network cable. After fiddling a bit, I could get the printer
working nicely, thanks to nice instructions at
http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_wrapper_install.html

I have then tried to install the scanner but I dont get it working. Maybe
because I dont find any instructions or maybe because it is not possible? It
seems to be prepared for usb scanners. But then I think, that if it works
with usb, it should also work with a network cable. Or can I just forget
about making the scanner working.

I am using Suse 10.0 and a Brother MFC-610 CLN. Any recommendations would be
warmly appreciated.

Best regards
Martin
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From henn...@meier-geinitz.de  Sun Nov 20 13:40:59 2005
From: henn...@meier-geinitz.de (Henning Meier-Geinitz)
Date: Sun Nov 20 14:06:36 2005
Subject: [sane-devel] genesys backend
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Hi,

On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 12:17:30AM +0100, Pierre Willenbrock wrote:
 after some e-mail exchange and bug-hunting with St?phane the genesys
 backend should now support gl646 and gl841 based scanners.
 The Canon LiDE 35/40/50 scanners are now supported in cvs.

Thanks for all your work!
As far as I know, you use a LiDE 35. So i marked this scanner's
support as good. If you think the level of support is different,
please change it in genesys.desc.

I tested a Canon LiDE 50. To get it running, I had to uncomment its
id in genesys.conf. I changed this in CVS. I Also changed the name of
the scanners to also show the Canon LiDE 40. Also I used a build
number of 7, because the last one in CVS was already 6.

The test results for my Canon Lide 50:

Generelly: Sometimes I have a dark vertical stripe near the left
border (about 1 cm width, over the complete image). This happens in
Preview but very seldomly. Also I have vertical stripes, especially in
medium-bright areas.

Color: 
75: Works, images are a bit too bright (over-imposed). Black
looks grayish and some brighter colors are nearly white.

150: Sometimes works, most of the time the scan hangs at about 95%.
I.e. there is a normal scan but the scan head stops and xsane never
displays the image. Also tested with scanimage. When it works, the
image looks like at 75 dpi. The problem depends on image width. E.g.
at a width of 20 mm, it always works at 150 dpi but not with the full
width. Sledomly, I also get a segmentation fault.

The log shows that this part is repeated endlessly in case of a freeze:
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: using filters: reorder
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: frontend requested 32768 bytes
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: bytes_to_read=6814665,
total_bytes_read=6803082
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: 3 lines left by output
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: 3 lines left by input
[genesys] genesys_fill_read_buffer: start
[genesys] genesys_fill_read_buffer: reading 7723 bytes
[genesys] genesys_fill_read_buffer: failed to read 7723 bytes (Invalid
argument)
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: reordering 0 lines
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: completed, 0 bytes read
[genesys] sane_read: start
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data
[genesys] genesys_read_ordered_data: dumping current_setup:
pixels: 1287
lines: 1765
depth: 8
channels: 3
exposure_time: 5276
xres: 150
yres: 150
half_ccd: yes
stagger: 0
max_shift: 0

After the freeze or segmentation fault, the scanner is sometimes not found
anymore. Replugging fixes that.

300, 600 dpi: Works (overimposed) in full width. Doesn't work at e.g. width
100 mm (see above).

1200 dpi: Doesn't work in full width (see above). Works at e.g. a
width of 20 mm. This is much darker and has vertical stripes
(calibration problem?)

2400 dpi: Same as 1200 dpi. In addition, the image is too long (factor
2). I.e., in modes like 1200x2400 dpi the x resolution must be
inflated by either just duplicating pixels or, better yet,
interpolating them.

Gray:
75 dpi: Works, but is over-imposed.
150-600: see color
1200, 2400: see color 1200/2400

Lineart: similar to gray

I also did a spot check on color 16 bit and this seems to be less
over-imposed.

For now, I mark the support of this scanner as minimal.
I marked the Canon LiDE 40 as Untested. Can somebody please test
this scanner?

Thanks again,

Henning


[sane-devel] Brother MFC-610 CLN scanner with network cable

2005-11-20 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 09:31:40PM +0900, Martin Olof Andersson wrote:
 I have then tried to install the scanner but I dont get it working. Maybe
 because I dont find any instructions or maybe because it is not possible? It
 seems to be prepared for usb scanners. But then I think, that if it works
 with usb, it should also work with a network cable. Or can I just forget
 about making the scanner working.
 
 I am using Suse 10.0 and a Brother MFC-610 CLN. Any recommendations would be
 warmly appreciated.

Ask Brother. Most other Brother scanners are supported by their
backends:

http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=brothermodel=bus=any
http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/sane_drivers.html

As far as I can see, your scanner is not supported by their backends
currently. Can you give some more information so I can add it to our
list of unsupported devices? It's connected to ethernet?

Bye,
  Henning


[sane-devel] Brother MFC-610 CLN scanner with network cable

2005-11-20 Thread Martin Olof Andersson
Dear Henning
When I searched like you did on the sane page, I found MFC-620CN at the
bottom in the brother2 group. I am sorry that I mistyped the model number.
Although I misspelled, I think there might be a misspell in the sane list as
well, and that it shoul be MFC-620CLN.
 In the list it says usb for all scanners, even the supported ones. In the
list there is nothing about network cable connections. I am trying to set it
up with a network cable, I think it is ethernet (normal Internet cable). I
have read the man pages of sane and saned but it did not help me yet. I will
ask to Brother like you advised me.
 Thank you
Martin

 2005/11/20, Henning Meier-Geinitz henn...@meier-geinitz.de:

 Hi,

 On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 09:31:40PM +0900, Martin Olof Andersson wrote:
  I have then tried to install the scanner but I dont get it working.
 Maybe
  because I dont find any instructions or maybe because it is not
 possible? It
  seems to be prepared for usb scanners. But then I think, that if it
 works
  with usb, it should also work with a network cable. Or can I just forget
  about making the scanner working.
 
  I am using Suse 10.0 and a Brother MFC-610 CLN. Any recommendations
 would be
  warmly appreciated.

 Ask Brother. Most other Brother scanners are supported by their
 backends:

 http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=brothermodel=bus=any
 http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/sane_drivers.html

 As far as I can see, your scanner is not supported by their backends
 currently. Can you give some more information so I can add it to our
 list of unsupported devices? It's connected to ethernet?

 Bye,
 Henning

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From nikolas.ar...@gmx.net  Sun Nov 20 14:53:43 2005
From: nikolas.ar...@gmx.net (Nikolas Arend)
Date: Sun Nov 20 14:53:00 2005
Subject: [sane-devel] genesys backend
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Pierre Willenbrock wrote:
 Hi all,

 after some e-mail exchange and bug-hunting with St?phane the genesys
 backend should now support gl646 and gl841 based scanners.
 The Canon LiDE 35/40/50 scanners are now supported in cvs.

   
Hi,

how about the Canon LiDE 80? That one is gl841 based AFAIK, but last I 
tried the CVS version I couldn't get it to work. I'll give it another 
try but wanted to ask first whether it is supposed to work at all. Did 
anyone manage to get it running?

Thanks and best regards,  

Nick.



[sane-devel] Brother MFC-610 CLN scanner with network cable

2005-11-20 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 11:51:46PM +0900, Martin Olof Andersson wrote:
 When I searched like you did on the sane page, I found MFC-620CN at the
 bottom in the brother2 group. I am sorry that I mistyped the model number.
 Although I misspelled, I think there might be a misspell in the sane list as
 well, and that it shoul be MFC-620CLN.

I copied this from the brother2 page and they claim the MFC-620CN is
supported by brother2. A CLN is not mentioned on their page at all.

So I guess I'll add a MFC-620CLN as unsupported?

  In the list it says usb for all scanners, even the supported ones. In the
 list there is nothing about network cable connections. I am trying to set it
 up with a network cable, I think it is ethernet (normal Internet cable). I
 have read the man pages of sane and saned but it did not help me yet. I will
 ask to Brother like you advised me.

The Brother page says: This SANE driver will only work with devices
connected through the USB interface.. That's why I listed all of
these scanners only as USB.

Bye,
  henning