[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Henning Meier-Geinitz  writes:

> On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:20:46AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> > Henning Meier-Geinitz  writes:
> > 
> > > Does it make sense to add a .desc file in the external section? So
> > > the epson kowa backend would show up on the SANE webpage as external
> > > backend.
> > 
> > I guess it would.  While we are at it, I guess you could also add
> > "Image Scan! for Linux" to the frontends page.
> 
> There is a link now. However, I just found out that iscan only works
> with Epson scanners. From frontend/pisa_sane_scan.cc:
> 
>   if ( 0 == ::strcasecmp ( ppdevice_list [ i ]->vendor, "epson" ) )

Harrumpf.  I'll see what I can do about that (read: what I'm allowed
to do about that in our official packages).  Hmm, a configure option
perhaps?  That could keep both sides happy.

> And in fact, it ignores all my scanners. If I "fake" an Epson scanner,
> the device is opened and the option descriptors are read but nothing
> more. So iscan is not really a SANE frontend in my opinion.

Agreed on the frontend part.  Personally I think it'd be nice if iscan
supported scanner from other manufacturers as well, but I'm not sure
what the people who foot the bill think about that.

> So I'll add a comment to the SANE frontends page.
> 
> Still waiting for the epsonkw.desc :-)

Don't hold your breath :-)  I'm up to (way over) my ears in work.
-- 
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[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-21 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:20:46AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Henning Meier-Geinitz  writes:
> 
> > Does it make sense to add a .desc file in the external section? So
> > the epson kowa backend would show up on the SANE webpage as external
> > backend.
> 
> I guess it would.  While we are at it, I guess you could also add
> "Image Scan! for Linux" to the frontends page.

There is a link now. However, I just found out that iscan only works
with Epson scanners. From frontend/pisa_sane_scan.cc:

  if ( 0 == ::strcasecmp ( ppdevice_list [ i ]->vendor, "epson" ) )
  
And in fact, it ignores all my scanners. If I "fake" an Epson scanner,
the device is opened and the option descriptors are read but nothing
more. So iscan is not really a SANE frontend in my opinion.

So I'll add a comment to the SANE frontends page.

Still waiting for the epsonkw.desc :-)

Bye,
  Henning



[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Henning Meier-Geinitz  writes:

> Does it make sense to add a .desc file in the external section? So
> the epson kowa backend would show up on the SANE webpage as external
> backend.

I guess it would.  While we are at it, I guess you could also add
"Image Scan! for Linux" to the frontends page.

> If yes, could you (or someone else) provide a epson-kw.desc (or
> whatever name)?

Could you send me a sample?  I'll see what I can do.
-- 
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Penguin's lib!   -- I hack, therefore I am --   LPIC-2


[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-14 Thread Till Kamppeter
Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote:
> Does it make sense to add a .desc file in the external section? So the
> epson kowa backend would show up on the SANE webpage as external
> backend.
> 
> If yes, could you (or someone else) provide a epson-kw.desc (or
> whatever name)?

It would be even a good idea to rename the driver into epson-kw or 
better epson-kowa, this would make packaging of SANE for distros much 
easier.

Till



[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-14 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:51:30AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> A new version of "Image Scan! for Linux" will be released on January
> 21, 2003 to add support for the GT-9800F (a.k.a. Perfection 3200
> PHOTO).  This package contains a GUI frontend and a modified version
> of the SANE epson backend (originally based on 1.0.3, later updated to
> 1.0.6).  It also includes a proprietary module that is only used with
> EPSON scanners, but I believe "Image Scan! for Linux" is usable with
> other scanners.  It's just that the results may not be as good as they
> probably could be.

Does it make sense to add a .desc file in the external section? So the
epson kowa backend would show up on the SANE webpage as external
backend.

If yes, could you (or someone else) provide a epson-kw.desc (or
whatever name)?

Bye,
  Henning


[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Klaas Freitag  writes:

> I was notified that Epson released a new frontend, Image Scan! for
> linux.  It is limited to Epson devices. The source code distribution
> contains a epson.c and dll-code. Is that the same as that in SANE
> 1.0.10?

A new version of "Image Scan! for Linux" will be released on January
21, 2003 to add support for the GT-9800F (a.k.a. Perfection 3200
PHOTO).  This package contains a GUI frontend and a modified version
of the SANE epson backend (originally based on 1.0.3, later updated to
1.0.6).  It also includes a proprietary module that is only used with
EPSON scanners, but I believe "Image Scan! for Linux" is usable with
other scanners.  It's just that the results may not be as good as they
probably could be.

# If anyone has "successfully" used "Image Scan! for Linux" with other
# scanners, please drop me a note.

Two other proprietary modules are used to interface with the GT-7200U
and GT-7300U (a.k.a. Perfection 1250/Perfection 1250 PHOTO and
Perfection 1260/ Perfection 1260 PHOTO).

For a full list of supported scanners, see:

  http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/lsd_e.html

Oh, what the heck!  Here is the cut-and-paste:

  * Perfection 610/Perfection 640U/Perfection 1200S, 1200U, 1200U
PHOTO/Perfection 1240U/ Perfection 1250, 1250 PHOTO/Perfection
1260, 1260 PHOTO/Perfection 1640SU, 1640SU PHOTO/Perfection
1650/Perfection 1650 PHOTO/Perfection 1660 PHOTO/Perfection 2400
PHOTO/Perfection 2450 PHOTO/ Expression 1600/ Expression 1680/
Expression 1640XL/GT-1,1+/GT-3

Note: installing "Image Scan! for Linux" will clobber (at least the
  symlinks to) the epson backend from sane-backends.

-- 
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[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 January 2003 13:23, Karl Heinz Kremer wrote:
>Gene Heskett said:
>> On Monday 13 January 2003 03:38, Klaas Freitag wrote:
>>>On Sunday 12 January 2003 22:10, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote:
 Hi,

 We are now in feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10. That means, no
 more features are allowed to be included in CVS. Bug fixes and
 documentation updates are allowed, however.

 Further time table:
 2003-01-25: Code freeze
 2003-02-01: Release
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I was notified that Epson released a new frontend, Image Scan!
>>> for linux. It is limited to Epson devices. The source code
>>> distribution contains a epson.c and dll-code. Is that the same
>>> as that in SANE 1.0.10?
>
>The backend in IScan is a heavily modified 1.0.5 version of the
> EPSON backends. Some of the changes in the official backend went
> into the IScan backend, but it's based on a fairly old version.
>
>> No.  Thats for driving the USB based 1250u and 1260u, and
>> possibly  one or 2 others.  I use it here, albeit in a
>> roundabout way. the
>
>The IScan backend supports pretty much all EPSON scanners (with
> the exception of the Perfection 660, which is a new scanner only
> sold in Europe, and the Perfection 600, which is supported by one
> of the other Sane backends).
>
>[ ... ]
>
>> The epson code in the sane-backends package is AFAIK, for the
>> parallel port or possibly scsi port epsons, but thats a wild
>> guess  on my part, I've never tried to use it here.
>
>That's a pretty wild guess... 

We sometimes call those SWAG, for Scientific Wild Assed Guess. :)
Been known to make them before.

The official EPSON backend supports
> all EPSON scanners with the exception of the Perfection
> 600/650/1250/1260. Some of
>the older par-port scanners may also not work, but at least their
> command language is supported :-)

-- 
Cheers, Gene
AMD K6-III@500mhz 320M
Athlon1600XP@1400mhz  512M
99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly


[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-13 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:58:13AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> The epson code in the sane-backends package is AFAIK, for the 
> parallel port or possibly scsi port epsons, but thats a wild guess 
> on my part, I've never tried to use it here.

Here is a list of devices that are supported by the Epson backend that
will be in SANE 1.0.10:

http://www.mostang.com/sane/sane-backends-cvs.html#EPSON

Bye,
  Henning


[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-13 Thread Karl Heinz Kremer
Gene Heskett said:
> On Monday 13 January 2003 03:38, Klaas Freitag wrote:
>>On Sunday 12 January 2003 22:10, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are now in feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10. That means, no
>>> more features are allowed to be included in CVS. Bug fixes and
>>> documentation updates are allowed, however.
>>>
>>> Further time table:
>>> 2003-01-25: Code freeze
>>> 2003-02-01: Release
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I was notified that Epson released a new frontend, Image Scan! for
>> linux. It is limited to Epson devices. The source code
>> distribution contains a epson.c and dll-code. Is that the same as that
>> in SANE 1.0.10?

The backend in IScan is a heavily modified 1.0.5 version of the EPSON
backends. Some of the changes in the official backend went into the IScan
backend, but it's based on a fairly old version.

>
> No.  Thats for driving the USB based 1250u and 1260u, and possibly  one
> or 2 others.  I use it here, albeit in a roundabout way. the

The IScan backend supports pretty much all EPSON scanners (with the
exception of the Perfection 660, which is a new scanner only sold in
Europe, and the Perfection 600, which is supported by one of the
other Sane backends).

[ ... ]
>
> The epson code in the sane-backends package is AFAIK, for the
> parallel port or possibly scsi port epsons, but thats a wild guess  on
> my part, I've never tried to use it here.

That's a pretty wild guess... The official EPSON backend supports all
EPSON scanners with the exception of the Perfection 600/650/1250/1260.
Some of
the older par-port scanners may also not work, but at least their command
language is supported :-)

Karl Heinz




[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 January 2003 03:38, Klaas Freitag wrote:
>On Sunday 12 January 2003 22:10, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are now in feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10. That means, no
>> more features are allowed to be included in CVS. Bug fixes and
>> documentation updates are allowed, however.
>>
>> Further time table:
>> 2003-01-25: Code freeze
>> 2003-02-01: Release
>
>Hi,
>
>I was notified that Epson released a new frontend, Image Scan! for
> linux. It is limited to Epson devices. The source code
> distribution contains a epson.c and dll-code. Is that the same as
> that in SANE 1.0.10?

No.  Thats for driving the USB based 1250u and 1260u, and possibly 
one or 2 others.  I use it here, albeit in a roundabout way. the 
gui won't build, but the backend does, so after the gui build 
fails, I go ahead and do a make install, and then I get it listed 
as a GT-7200 choice when I run xscanimage or xsane.  It works just 
fine on my 1250u.

The epson code in the sane-backends package is AFAIK, for the 
parallel port or possibly scsi port epsons, but thats a wild guess 
on my part, I've never tried to use it here.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
AMD K6-III@500mhz 320M
Athlon1600XP@1400mhz  512M
99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly


[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-13 Thread Klaas Freitag
On Sunday 12 January 2003 22:10, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are now in feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10. That means, no more
> features are allowed to be included in CVS. Bug fixes and
> documentation updates are allowed, however.
>
> Further time table:
> 2003-01-25: Code freeze
> 2003-02-01: Release

Hi,

I was notified that Epson released a new frontend, Image Scan! for linux.
It is limited to Epson devices. The source code distribution contains a=20
epson.c and dll-code. Is that the same as that in SANE 1.0.10?

Thanks,

Klaas

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[sane-devel] Feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10

2003-01-12 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

We are now in feature freeze for SANE 1.0.10. That means, no more
features are allowed to be included in CVS. Bug fixes and
documentation updates are allowed, however.

Further time table:
2003-01-25: Code freeze
2003-02-01: Release

After code freeze only fixes of grave bugs that render a backend
completely unusable or break compilation and documentation updates are
accepted. 

Bye,
  Henning