[sane-devel] has feeder loaded

2003-12-18 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:30:01PM +0100, Oliver Schirrmeister wrote:
 The fujitsu backend offers a SOFT_DETECT, HARD_SELECT option 'startbutton'
 to query button1. The same thing could be done with 'paper in hopper' or else.
 But these options should have the same name for all backends. Is there such
 a known name or other interface?

Not yet, but the SANE2 draft already contains a proposal for buttons:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane2/0.08/doc014.html

Additions for paper in hopper could be done. Can you explain why a
standardized option is useful? I don't say it isn't I just don't have
an idea what to do excatly with it.

Bye,
  Henning



[sane-devel] has feeder loaded

2003-12-18 Thread m. allan noah
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Henning Meier-Geinitz wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:30:01PM +0100, Oliver Schirrmeister wrote:
  The fujitsu backend offers a SOFT_DETECT, HARD_SELECT option 'startbutton'
  to query button1. The same thing could be done with 'paper in hopper' or 
  else.
  But these options should have the same name for all backends. Is there such
  a known name or other interface?
 
 Not yet, but the SANE2 draft already contains a proposal for buttons:
 http://www.sane-project.org/sane2/0.08/doc014.html
 
 Additions for paper in hopper could be done. Can you explain why a
 standardized option is useful? I don't say it isn't I just don't have
 an idea what to do excatly with it.

dont think in terms of the normal things you do with a flatbed, think 
instead of those of us in the document imaging and capture world. if a 
front-end could run on a system and monitor the state of the hardware 
(regardless of the scanner manufacturer) then it could prompt the user for 
action when pages are inserted, or even, start scanning them as soon as 
they go in, with no other action required. the latter makes for an 
interesting headless system...

allan

 
 Bye,
   Henning
 
 

-- 
so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know.
money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls - Max Cavalera




[sane-devel] has feeder loaded

2003-12-18 Thread Henning Meier-Geinitz
Hi,

On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:56:12PM -0500, m. allan noah wrote:
 dont think in terms of the normal things you do with a flatbed, think 
 instead of those of us in the document imaging and capture world. if a 
 front-end could run on a system and monitor the state of the hardware 
 (regardless of the scanner manufacturer) then it could prompt the user for 
 action when pages are inserted, or even, start scanning them as soon as 
 they go in, with no other action required. the latter makes for an 
 interesting headless system...

Sounds reasonable for me.

I'm now waiting for a description of that option to add to the SANE2
standard :-) Any volunteers?

Bye,
  Henning



[sane-devel] has feeder loaded

2003-12-16 Thread Oliver Schirrmeister
is there a function in sane to ask if the document feeder
is loaded (like the 'has feeder loaded' option in TWAIN)?

Thanks

Oliver




[sane-devel] has feeder loaded

2003-12-16 Thread Phil Barrett
Oliver wrote:
 is there a function in sane to ask if the document feeder
 is loaded (like the 'has feeder loaded' option in TWAIN)?

But hopefully more reliable. Here's two typical TWAIN conversations (with an
HP):

Do you have a feeder? -Yes
Can you tell me if the feeder is loaded? -Yes
Is the feeder loaded? -I don't know


Is the feeder enabled? -No
Please enable the feeder. -OK
Is the feeder enabled? -Yes
Please disable the feeder. -OK
Is the feeder enabled? -Yes

Phil




[sane-devel] has feeder loaded

2003-12-16 Thread m. allan noah
there was some discussion about having one or more sane options that could 
provide scanner status. they would have to be in a specific group, or have 
specific indexes into the options array, or have specific names, so 
finding them could be sort of ugly.

i can think of a few things that the fujitsu scanners tell us:

button1 pressed
button2 pressed
character on 'function' readout
number on 'copy' wheel
paper in hopper
cover open
lamp warm

is there a general purpose way to expose this?

allan

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Oliver Schirrmeister wrote:

 is there a function in sane to ask if the document feeder
 is loaded (like the 'has feeder loaded' option in TWAIN)?
 
 Thanks
 
 Oliver
 
 
 

-- 
so don't tell us it can't be done, putting down what you don't know.
money isn't our god, integrity will free our souls - Max Cavalera




[sane-devel] has feeder loaded

2003-12-16 Thread Oliver Schirrmeister
The fujitsu backend offers a SOFT_DETECT, HARD_SELECT option 'startbutton'
to query button1. The same thing could be done with 'paper in hopper' or else.
But these options should have the same name for all backends. Is there such
a known name or other interface?

Oliver

Am Dienstag 16 Dezember 2003 15:41 schrieben Sie:
 there was some discussion about having one or more sane options that could
 provide scanner status. they would have to be in a specific group, or have
 specific indexes into the options array, or have specific names, so
 finding them could be sort of ugly.

 i can think of a few things that the fujitsu scanners tell us:

 button1 pressed
 button2 pressed
 character on 'function' readout
 number on 'copy' wheel
 paper in hopper
 cover open
 lamp warm

 is there a general purpose way to expose this?

 allan

 On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Oliver Schirrmeister wrote:
  is there a function in sane to ask if the document feeder
  is loaded (like the 'has feeder loaded' option in TWAIN)?
 
  Thanks
 
  Oliver