Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The sysadmins (AFAIK) don't have an issue tracking system that we, the savannah hackers, can monitor. sysadmin does use RT. Have you tried looking at the sysadmin RT queue? Does some obstacle prevent you from looking at it? If so, I can ask for that to be changed. I'm not aware of RT. I'll find out about it. Thanks. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
The sysadmins (AFAIK) don't have an issue tracking system that we, the savannah hackers, can monitor. sysadmin does use RT. Have you tried looking at the sysadmin RT queue? Does some obstacle prevent you from looking at it? If so, I can ask for that to be changed. ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:55:14PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: The sysadmins (AFAIK) don't have an issue tracking system that we, the savannah hackers, can monitor. sysadmin does use RT. Have you tried looking at the sysadmin RT queue? Does some obstacle prevent you from looking at it? If so, I can ask for that to be changed. I do not know how to look at that queue. Maybe Nic does, but I surely don't. -- Rudy Gevaert[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pagehttp://www.webworm.org GNU/Linux for schools http://www.nongnu.org/glms Savannah hacker http://savannah.gnu.org ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
I have been occasionally suggesting Would you like to help run Savannah when someone says he would like to help. ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:56:40PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: Well, that's the problem of course! The image should have been copied locally. Why didn't you do it that way? Because I was to lazy. I didn't think a slashdot effect would happen and because I didn't see any problems later. I didn't know of a slashdot effect at the time being. Don't worry I'll copy the image locally next time. -- Rudy Gevaert[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pagehttp://www.webworm.org GNU/Linux for schools http://www.nongnu.org/glms Savannah hacker http://savannah.gnu.org ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been occasionally suggesting Would you like to help run Savannah when someone says he would like to help. I think that's the right thing to do... we'll be able to attract more people if we change the way savannah works. The existing team (plus those like me who have recently become more involved) are more than capable of achieving that within a year. I also think the changes being made by the sysadmins will be an improvement: more automation of things like uploads can only be a good thing. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
Tom Lord said: 1) I've been unable to get the latest release of arch uploaded to the web site. The request went in 20-Aug and the autoresponder said most responses occur in 24-48 hours, not counting weekends and holidays. (Followup messages have not been answered.) 2) After the security problems on ftp.gnu.org, there was talk of setting up an alternative means of doing unattended uploads. That was originally advertised as being planned for the first week of August. 3) The protest page on the front page appears to be broken -- the image fails to load after a long wait. 4) I can not edit my www.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch pages very easily because this item: http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2340 is still unresolved. 5) The mailing lists are incredibly sluggish lately. rms followed up: Can you tell me what's happening with the work on these problems? Whan can we do to help you work on them better? I'm a beginner savannah-hacker, but I'll try and answer your questions (apologies if someone else already did). (Don't bother with #5--that's not your area, and I know that the problem is the viruses.) No.1, No.2 and No.4 are not down to the savannah-hackers either. bkuhn and the gnu admins need to provide the new facility for uploading to the webservers and to the ftp site. I believe they've been held up by problems finding sigs for all the downloads. I think the protest page has been taken down now. Maybe Tom hit it at the wrong time. I think some of Tom's complaints may be a little out of date. No.4 is now happening more frequently. As to what we could do to fix the problem: IMHO savannah-hackers are woefully understaffed. In part this is a problem of the system: it's big and quite unwieldy. It's taking me quite a long time (given my meagre spare time) to get to the point where I feel confident about doing stuff. In part it's a problem of advertisment: hackers who use savannah don't necessarily know that it's volunteer run and could do with a hand. Loic probably doesn't want to advertise in a very direct way becuase a key component of being a savannah hacker is trust. Lastly, it's a problem of tools: the bug and task assignments are done over the web and that's the only way to track them, that is they are not interruptive (there are mails but they are so slow right now they can't really be considered interruptive either!) It's not possible to setup more than one view of the bug and task lists for regular viewing (eg: I can't quickly get a list of bugs assigned to me and a list of unassigned, opened bugs). I am going to alleiviate this tool problem a little bit by adding an RSS feed for projects. For most projects it will be generated daily and then cached but I think for the savannah project live generations would be good. It would be a nice way of keeping on top of problems. The organisation of this stuff is key I think because the easier it is to deal with problems the more savannah-hackers we'll be able to get involved (more people like me for example, with little spare time to give to the project). We're going to need to do that anyway. I don't believe that savannah can continue to scale on single boxes. We're going to have to start using multiple servers. That will really swamp the existing team. I have some thoughts on that I'll be airing over the next month. Nic ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
I must be confused -- can you please help me become non-confused? My understanding was that, until the new unattended uploads infrastructure is in place, the way to get a file into ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu-arch was to write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a location from which the file could be snarfed and a gpg-signed md5sum. Indeed, this has nothing to do with savannah. I'm sorry but the distinctino between sysadmin and savannah is a bit lost on me. Savannah is a machine, which is our CVS server. The savannah-hackers mailing list reaches a group of volunteers who manage savannah. ftp.gnu.org is a different machine, not savannah, and not run by the savannah-hackers people. [EMAIL PROTECTED] maintains ftp.gnu.org. Likewise for www.gnu.org. So it sounds like all these issues are with sysadmin, not savannah. ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
Re: [Savannah-hackers] What's up?
That could be because the ffii site was beging under heavy load (slashedotted). Anyway I didn't see anything strange when I viewed the frontpage (I did so several times). I'll place the image local when the anti-swpat page is put back in place. (It's removed now). The image was not local. Well, that's the problem of course! The image should have been copied locally. Why didn't you do it that way? ___ Savannah-hackers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
