Re: [SC-L] Genotypes and Phenotypes (Gunnar Peterson)

2009-10-13 Thread Bobby Miller
The obvious difference is parts.  In manufacturing, things are assembled
from well-known, well-specified, tested parts.  Hmmm


 ... If you look at other things
 that people build, like oil refineries, or commercial aircraft, we can
 deal with complexity much more effectively than we can with software.
 The problem with software is that we've never learned how to control
 the side effects of choices, which we call bugs.

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Re: [SC-L] Provably correct microkernel (seL4)

2009-10-03 Thread Bobby Miller
I might argue that it may fix problems that aren't fixable otherwise.
My experience in this area is very old, but I found that the biggest benefit
of formal methods was not so much the proof but the flaws discovered and
fixed on the way to the proof.



 In conclusion, it seems an awful effort to fix half the problem, I'd
 expect,
 though cant prove, that a combination of other secure development processes
 working together will get better results with less overall effort.

 CJC


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