[SC-L] Metricon 2.0

2007-07-07 Thread Gunnar Peterson
SC-Lers,

There are several presentations at Metricon by or of interest to SC-L
denizens.

-gp

The agenda for Metricon 2.0 in Boston August 7th has been set. Metricon is
co-located with Usenix security conference. The details, travel info,
registration, and agenda are here:

https://www.securitymetrics.org/content/Wiki.jsp?page=Metricon2.0

There are a limited number of openings so please REGISTER SOON if interested
in attending.
 
A summary of the presentations

Keynote Debate: ³Do Metrics Matter?² Andrew Jaquith (Yankee Group) & Mike
Rothman (SecurityIncite)

"Security Meta Metrics--Measuring Agility, Learning, and Unintended
Consequence" Russell Cameron Thomas (Meritology)

"Security Metrics in Practice: Development of a Security Metric System to
Rate Enterprise Software" Fredrick DeQuan Lee and Brian Chess (Fortify)

"A Software Security Risk Classification System"  Eric Dalci and Robert
Hines (Cigital) 

"Web Application Security Metrics" Jeremiah Grossman (WhiteHat Security)

"Operational Security Risk Metrics: Definitions, Calculations, and
Visualizations", Brian Laing, Mike Lloyd, and Alain Mayer (Redseal Systems)

"Metrics for Network Security Using Attack Graphs: A Position Paper", Anoop
Singhal (NIST), Lingyu Wang and Sushil Jaodia (Center for Secure Information
Systems, George Mason University)

"Software Security Weakness Scoring" Chris Wysopal (Veracode)

"Developing secure applications with metrics in mind"
Thomas Heyman Christophe Huygens, and Wouter Joosen (K.U.Leuven)

"Correlating Automated Static Analysis Alert Density to Reported
Vulnerabilities in Sendmail"
Michael Gegick and Laurie Williams (North Carolina State University)

Practitioner Panel moderated by Becky Bace: Three practitioners from thought
leading companies describe how they use metrics to make better decisions.

If you know others that would be interested this collaborative workshop,
please forward them this email and let them know about this opportunity.

Please contact us with any questions.

Thanks,
Betsy Nichols and Gunnar Peterson
Metricon 2.0 Co-Chairs



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Re: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP

2007-04-25 Thread Gunnar Peterson
> I thought it was about ROSI all over again? Having been to and spoken at
> several CISO conferences, I stayed away from this book up to now.
> 

Actually, Andy hits that in the preface

"Mercifully, the ROI fad has gone the way of the Macarena"

Instead the book (and conference) are about - how to measure security, how
to analyze the data, and how to tell a story

-gp


>> http://www.amazon.com/Security-Metrics-Replacing-Uncertainty-Doubt/dp/032134
>> 9989
>> 
>> I am halfway through and it is excellent so far, will post a review soon.
>> Not sure how the security industry as we know it will get by without fud.
> 
> Pretty good! Thank you very much. The problem of teaching security
> practitioners on how to "speak" without FUD, even if they don't see it as
> FUD, is just as great.
> 
> Gadi.
> 
>> 
>> -gp
>> 
>> On 4/24/07 7:32 PM, "Gary McGraw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Plus, check out Andrew Jaquith's excellent book:
>>> 
>>>  -Original Message-
>>> From:  Gunnar Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tue Apr 24 20:14:53 2007
>>> To: Secure Mailing List
>>> Subject: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP
>>> 
>>> Last year's conference, MetriCon 1.0 featured a software security metrics
>>> track ( http://securitymetrics.org/content/Wiki.jsp?page=Metricon1.0),
>>> including:
>>> 
>>> * A Metric for Evaluating Static Analysis Tools - Chess & Tsipenyuk, Fortify
>>> * An Attack Surface Metric - Manadhata & Wing, Carnegie-Mellon
>>> * "Good enough" Metrics - Epstein, WebMethods
>>> * Software Security Patterns and Risk - Heyman & Huygens, U of Leuven
>>> * Code Metrics - Chandra, Secure Software
>>> 
>>> -gp
>>> 
>>> Second Workshop on Security Metrics (MetriCon 2.0) < Call for Papers
>>> MetriCon 2.0 CFP
>>> 
>>> August 7, 2007 Boston, MA
>>> 
>>> Overview
>>> 
>>> Do you cringe at the subjectivity applied to security in every manner? If
>>> so, MetriCon 2.0 may be your antidote to change security from an artistic
>>> "matter of opinion" into an objective, quantifiable science. The time for
>>> adjectives and adverbs has gone; the time for hard facts and data has come.
>>> 
>>> MetriCon 2.0 is intended as a forum for lively, practical discussion in the
>>> area of security metrics. It is a forum for quantifiable approaches and
>>> results to problems afflicting information security today, with a bias
>>> towards practical, specific implementations. Topics and presentations will
>>> be selected for their potential to stimulate discussion in the Workshop.
>>> 
>>> MetriCon 2.0 will be a one-day event, Tuesday, August 7, 2007, co-located
>>> with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium in Boston, MA, USA
>>> (http://www.usenix.org/events/sec07/). Beginning first thing in the morning,
>>> with meals taken in the meeting room, and extending into the evening.
>>> Attendance will be by invitation and limited to 60 participants. All
>>> participants will be expected to "come with findings" and be willing to
>>> address the group in some fashion, formally or not. Preference given to the
>>> authors of position papers/presentations who have actual work in progress.
>>> 
>>> Each presenter will have 10-15 minutes to present his or her idea, followed
>>> by 15-20 minutes of discussion with the workshop participants. Panels and
>>> groups of related presentations may be proposed to present different
>>> approaches to selected topics, and will be steered by what sorts of
>>> proposals come in response to this Call.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Goals and Topics
>>> 
>>> The goal of the workshop is to stimulate discussion of and thinking about
>>> security metrics and to do so in ways that lead to realistic, early results
>>> of lasting value. Potential attendees are invited to submit position papers
>>> to be shared with all. Such position papers are expected to address security
>>> metrics in one of the following categories:
>>> 
>>> Benchmarking
>>> Empirical Studies
>>> Metrics Definitions
>>> Financial Planning
>>> Security/Risk Modeling
>>> Tools, Technologies, Tips, and Tricks
>>> Visualization
>>> Practical implementations, real world case studies, and detailed models will
>>> be preferred over broader models or g

Re: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP

2007-04-25 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Gunnar Peterson wrote:
> Book is here
> 
> "Security Metrics: Replacing Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt" by Andrew Jaquith

I thought it was about ROSI all over again? Having been to and spoken at
several CISO conferences, I stayed away from this book up to now.

> http://www.amazon.com/Security-Metrics-Replacing-Uncertainty-Doubt/dp/032134
> 9989
> 
> I am halfway through and it is excellent so far, will post a review soon.
> Not sure how the security industry as we know it will get by without fud.

Pretty good! Thank you very much. The problem of teaching security
practitioners on how to "speak" without FUD, even if they don't see it as
FUD, is just as great.

Gadi.

> 
> -gp
> 
> On 4/24/07 7:32 PM, "Gary McGraw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Plus, check out Andrew Jaquith's excellent book:
> > 
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:  Gunnar Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tue Apr 24 20:14:53 2007
> > To: Secure Mailing List
> > Subject: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP
> > 
> > Last year's conference, MetriCon 1.0 featured a software security metrics
> > track ( http://securitymetrics.org/content/Wiki.jsp?page=Metricon1.0),
> > including:
> > 
> > * A Metric for Evaluating Static Analysis Tools - Chess & Tsipenyuk, Fortify
> > * An Attack Surface Metric - Manadhata & Wing, Carnegie-Mellon
> > * "Good enough" Metrics - Epstein, WebMethods
> > * Software Security Patterns and Risk - Heyman & Huygens, U of Leuven
> > * Code Metrics - Chandra, Secure Software
> > 
> > -gp
> > 
> > Second Workshop on Security Metrics (MetriCon 2.0) < Call for Papers
> > MetriCon 2.0 CFP
> > 
> > August 7, 2007 Boston, MA
> > 
> > Overview
> > 
> > Do you cringe at the subjectivity applied to security in every manner? If
> > so, MetriCon 2.0 may be your antidote to change security from an artistic
> > "matter of opinion" into an objective, quantifiable science. The time for
> > adjectives and adverbs has gone; the time for hard facts and data has come.
> > 
> > MetriCon 2.0 is intended as a forum for lively, practical discussion in the
> > area of security metrics. It is a forum for quantifiable approaches and
> > results to problems afflicting information security today, with a bias
> > towards practical, specific implementations. Topics and presentations will
> > be selected for their potential to stimulate discussion in the Workshop.
> > 
> > MetriCon 2.0 will be a one-day event, Tuesday, August 7, 2007, co-located
> > with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium in Boston, MA, USA
> > (http://www.usenix.org/events/sec07/). Beginning first thing in the morning,
> > with meals taken in the meeting room, and extending into the evening.
> > Attendance will be by invitation and limited to 60 participants. All
> > participants will be expected to "come with findings" and be willing to
> > address the group in some fashion, formally or not. Preference given to the
> > authors of position papers/presentations who have actual work in progress.
> > 
> > Each presenter will have 10-15 minutes to present his or her idea, followed
> > by 15-20 minutes of discussion with the workshop participants. Panels and
> > groups of related presentations may be proposed to present different
> > approaches to selected topics, and will be steered by what sorts of
> > proposals come in response to this Call.
> > 
> > 
> > Goals and Topics
> > 
> > The goal of the workshop is to stimulate discussion of and thinking about
> > security metrics and to do so in ways that lead to realistic, early results
> > of lasting value. Potential attendees are invited to submit position papers
> > to be shared with all. Such position papers are expected to address security
> > metrics in one of the following categories:
> > 
> > Benchmarking
> > Empirical Studies
> > Metrics Definitions
> > Financial Planning
> > Security/Risk Modeling
> > Tools, Technologies, Tips, and Tricks
> > Visualization
> > Practical implementations, real world case studies, and detailed models will
> > be preferred over broader models or general ideas.
> > 
> > How to Participate
> > 
> > Submit a short position paper or description of work done/ongoing. Your
> > submission must be no longer than five(5) paragraphs or presentation slides.
> > Author names and affiliations should appear first in/on the submission.
> > Submissions may be in PDF, PowerPoint, HTML, 

Re: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP

2007-04-25 Thread Bret Watson
You know its a little off topic - but I'd kill for a set of metrics 
around the effectiveness/efficiency of a SOC :)

Anyone got any ideas? The usual "events per person" type metrics are 
backwards (good security means less events so lower "efficiency"

Thanks

Bret

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Re: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP

2007-04-25 Thread Gary McGraw
Plus, check out Andrew Jaquith's excellent book:

 -Original Message-
From:   Gunnar Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Tue Apr 24 20:14:53 2007
To: Secure Mailing List
Subject:    [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP

Last year's conference, MetriCon 1.0 featured a software security metrics
track ( http://securitymetrics.org/content/Wiki.jsp?page=Metricon1.0),
including:

* A Metric for Evaluating Static Analysis Tools - Chess & Tsipenyuk, Fortify
* An Attack Surface Metric - Manadhata & Wing, Carnegie-Mellon
* "Good enough" Metrics - Epstein, WebMethods
* Software Security Patterns and Risk - Heyman & Huygens, U of Leuven
* Code Metrics - Chandra, Secure Software

-gp

Second Workshop on Security Metrics (MetriCon 2.0) < Call for Papers
MetriCon 2.0 CFP

August 7, 2007 Boston, MA

Overview

Do you cringe at the subjectivity applied to security in every manner? If
so, MetriCon 2.0 may be your antidote to change security from an artistic
"matter of opinion" into an objective, quantifiable science. The time for
adjectives and adverbs has gone; the time for hard facts and data has come.

MetriCon 2.0 is intended as a forum for lively, practical discussion in the
area of security metrics. It is a forum for quantifiable approaches and
results to problems afflicting information security today, with a bias
towards practical, specific implementations. Topics and presentations will
be selected for their potential to stimulate discussion in the Workshop.

MetriCon 2.0 will be a one-day event, Tuesday, August 7, 2007, co-located
with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium in Boston, MA, USA
(http://www.usenix.org/events/sec07/). Beginning first thing in the morning,
with meals taken in the meeting room, and extending into the evening.
Attendance will be by invitation and limited to 60 participants. All
participants will be expected to "come with findings" and be willing to
address the group in some fashion, formally or not. Preference given to the
authors of position papers/presentations who have actual work in progress.

Each presenter will have 10-15 minutes to present his or her idea, followed
by 15-20 minutes of discussion with the workshop participants. Panels and
groups of related presentations may be proposed to present different
approaches to selected topics, and will be steered by what sorts of
proposals come in response to this Call.


Goals and Topics

The goal of the workshop is to stimulate discussion of and thinking about
security metrics and to do so in ways that lead to realistic, early results
of lasting value. Potential attendees are invited to submit position papers
to be shared with all. Such position papers are expected to address security
metrics in one of the following categories:

Benchmarking
Empirical Studies
Metrics Definitions
Financial Planning
Security/Risk Modeling
Tools, Technologies, Tips, and Tricks
Visualization
Practical implementations, real world case studies, and detailed models will
be preferred over broader models or general ideas.

How to Participate

Submit a short position paper or description of work done/ongoing. Your
submission must be no longer than five(5) paragraphs or presentation slides.
Author names and affiliations should appear first in/on the submission.
Submissions may be in PDF, PowerPoint, HTML, or plaintext email and must be
submitted to MetriCon AT securitymetrics.org.

Presenters will be notified of acceptance by June 22, 2007 and expected to
provide materials for distribution by July 22, 2007. All slides and position
papers will be made available to participants at the workshop. No formal
proceedings are intended. Plagiarism constitutes dishonesty. The organizers
of this Workshop as well as USENIX prohibit these practices and will take
appropriate action if dishonesty of this sort is found. Submission of
recent, previously published work as well as simultaneous submissions to
multiple venues is acceptable but please so indicate in your proposal.

Location

MetriCon 2.0 will be co-located with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium
(Security ¹07). (http://www.usenix.org/events/sec07/)
Cost

$200 all-inclusive of meeting space, materials preparation, and meals for
the day.
Important Dates

Requests to participate: by May 11, 2007
Notification of acceptance: by June 22, 2007
Materials for distribution: by July 22, 2007
Workshop Organizers

Fred Cohen, Fred Cohen & Associates
Jeremy Epstein, webMethods
Dan Geer, Geer Risk Services
Andrew Jaquith, Yankee Group
Elizabeth Nichols, ClearPoint Metrics, Co-Chair
Gunnar Peterson, Arctec Group, Co-Chair
Russell Cameron Thomas, Meritology



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Re: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP

2007-04-25 Thread Gunnar Peterson
Book is here

"Security Metrics: Replacing Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt" by Andrew Jaquith

http://www.amazon.com/Security-Metrics-Replacing-Uncertainty-Doubt/dp/032134
9989

I am halfway through and it is excellent so far, will post a review soon.
Not sure how the security industry as we know it will get by without fud.

-gp

On 4/24/07 7:32 PM, "Gary McGraw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Plus, check out Andrew Jaquith's excellent book:
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From:  Gunnar Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tue Apr 24 20:14:53 2007
> To: Secure Mailing List
> Subject: [SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP
> 
> Last year's conference, MetriCon 1.0 featured a software security metrics
> track ( http://securitymetrics.org/content/Wiki.jsp?page=Metricon1.0),
> including:
> 
> * A Metric for Evaluating Static Analysis Tools - Chess & Tsipenyuk, Fortify
> * An Attack Surface Metric - Manadhata & Wing, Carnegie-Mellon
> * "Good enough" Metrics - Epstein, WebMethods
> * Software Security Patterns and Risk - Heyman & Huygens, U of Leuven
> * Code Metrics - Chandra, Secure Software
> 
> -gp
> 
> Second Workshop on Security Metrics (MetriCon 2.0) < Call for Papers
> MetriCon 2.0 CFP
> 
> August 7, 2007 Boston, MA
> 
> Overview
> 
> Do you cringe at the subjectivity applied to security in every manner? If
> so, MetriCon 2.0 may be your antidote to change security from an artistic
> "matter of opinion" into an objective, quantifiable science. The time for
> adjectives and adverbs has gone; the time for hard facts and data has come.
> 
> MetriCon 2.0 is intended as a forum for lively, practical discussion in the
> area of security metrics. It is a forum for quantifiable approaches and
> results to problems afflicting information security today, with a bias
> towards practical, specific implementations. Topics and presentations will
> be selected for their potential to stimulate discussion in the Workshop.
> 
> MetriCon 2.0 will be a one-day event, Tuesday, August 7, 2007, co-located
> with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium in Boston, MA, USA
> (http://www.usenix.org/events/sec07/). Beginning first thing in the morning,
> with meals taken in the meeting room, and extending into the evening.
> Attendance will be by invitation and limited to 60 participants. All
> participants will be expected to "come with findings" and be willing to
> address the group in some fashion, formally or not. Preference given to the
> authors of position papers/presentations who have actual work in progress.
> 
> Each presenter will have 10-15 minutes to present his or her idea, followed
> by 15-20 minutes of discussion with the workshop participants. Panels and
> groups of related presentations may be proposed to present different
> approaches to selected topics, and will be steered by what sorts of
> proposals come in response to this Call.
> 
> 
> Goals and Topics
> 
> The goal of the workshop is to stimulate discussion of and thinking about
> security metrics and to do so in ways that lead to realistic, early results
> of lasting value. Potential attendees are invited to submit position papers
> to be shared with all. Such position papers are expected to address security
> metrics in one of the following categories:
> 
> Benchmarking
> Empirical Studies
> Metrics Definitions
> Financial Planning
> Security/Risk Modeling
> Tools, Technologies, Tips, and Tricks
> Visualization
> Practical implementations, real world case studies, and detailed models will
> be preferred over broader models or general ideas.
> 
> How to Participate
> 
> Submit a short position paper or description of work done/ongoing. Your
> submission must be no longer than five(5) paragraphs or presentation slides.
> Author names and affiliations should appear first in/on the submission.
> Submissions may be in PDF, PowerPoint, HTML, or plaintext email and must be
> submitted to MetriCon AT securitymetrics.org.
> 
> Presenters will be notified of acceptance by June 22, 2007 and expected to
> provide materials for distribution by July 22, 2007. All slides and position
> papers will be made available to participants at the workshop. No formal
> proceedings are intended. Plagiarism constitutes dishonesty. The organizers
> of this Workshop as well as USENIX prohibit these practices and will take
> appropriate action if dishonesty of this sort is found. Submission of
> recent, previously published work as well as simultaneous submissions to
> multiple venues is acceptable but please so indicate in your proposal.
> 
> Location
> 
> MetriCon 2.0 will be co-located with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium
> (Security ¹

[SC-L] MetriCon 2.0 CFP

2007-04-24 Thread Gunnar Peterson
Last year's conference, MetriCon 1.0 featured a software security metrics
track ( http://securitymetrics.org/content/Wiki.jsp?page=Metricon1.0),
including:

* A Metric for Evaluating Static Analysis Tools - Chess & Tsipenyuk, Fortify
* An Attack Surface Metric - Manadhata & Wing, Carnegie-Mellon
* "Good enough" Metrics - Epstein, WebMethods
* Software Security Patterns and Risk - Heyman & Huygens, U of Leuven
* Code Metrics - Chandra, Secure Software

-gp

Second Workshop on Security Metrics (MetriCon 2.0) ‹ Call for Papers
MetriCon 2.0 CFP

August 7, 2007 Boston, MA

Overview

Do you cringe at the subjectivity applied to security in every manner? If
so, MetriCon 2.0 may be your antidote to change security from an artistic
"matter of opinion" into an objective, quantifiable science. The time for
adjectives and adverbs has gone; the time for hard facts and data has come.

MetriCon 2.0 is intended as a forum for lively, practical discussion in the
area of security metrics. It is a forum for quantifiable approaches and
results to problems afflicting information security today, with a bias
towards practical, specific implementations. Topics and presentations will
be selected for their potential to stimulate discussion in the Workshop.

MetriCon 2.0 will be a one-day event, Tuesday, August 7, 2007, co-located
with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium in Boston, MA, USA
(http://www.usenix.org/events/sec07/). Beginning first thing in the morning,
with meals taken in the meeting room, and extending into the evening.
Attendance will be by invitation and limited to 60 participants. All
participants will be expected to "come with findings" and be willing to
address the group in some fashion, formally or not. Preference given to the
authors of position papers/presentations who have actual work in progress.

Each presenter will have 10-15 minutes to present his or her idea, followed
by 15-20 minutes of discussion with the workshop participants. Panels and
groups of related presentations may be proposed to present different
approaches to selected topics, and will be steered by what sorts of
proposals come in response to this Call.


Goals and Topics

The goal of the workshop is to stimulate discussion of and thinking about
security metrics and to do so in ways that lead to realistic, early results
of lasting value. Potential attendees are invited to submit position papers
to be shared with all. Such position papers are expected to address security
metrics in one of the following categories:

Benchmarking
Empirical Studies
Metrics Definitions
Financial Planning
Security/Risk Modeling
Tools, Technologies, Tips, and Tricks
Visualization
Practical implementations, real world case studies, and detailed models will
be preferred over broader models or general ideas.

How to Participate

Submit a short position paper or description of work done/ongoing. Your
submission must be no longer than five(5) paragraphs or presentation slides.
Author names and affiliations should appear first in/on the submission.
Submissions may be in PDF, PowerPoint, HTML, or plaintext email and must be
submitted to MetriCon AT securitymetrics.org.

Presenters will be notified of acceptance by June 22, 2007 and expected to
provide materials for distribution by July 22, 2007. All slides and position
papers will be made available to participants at the workshop. No formal
proceedings are intended. Plagiarism constitutes dishonesty. The organizers
of this Workshop as well as USENIX prohibit these practices and will take
appropriate action if dishonesty of this sort is found. Submission of
recent, previously published work as well as simultaneous submissions to
multiple venues is acceptable but please so indicate in your proposal.

Location

MetriCon 2.0 will be co-located with the 16th USENIX Security Symposium
(Security ¹07). (http://www.usenix.org/events/sec07/)
Cost

$200 all-inclusive of meeting space, materials preparation, and meals for
the day.
Important Dates

Requests to participate: by May 11, 2007
Notification of acceptance: by June 22, 2007
Materials for distribution: by July 22, 2007
Workshop Organizers

Fred Cohen, Fred Cohen & Associates
Jeremy Epstein, webMethods
Dan Geer, Geer Risk Services
Andrew Jaquith, Yankee Group
Elizabeth Nichols, ClearPoint Metrics, Co-Chair
Gunnar Peterson, Arctec Group, Co-Chair
Russell Cameron Thomas, Meritology



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