Re: Updates of samba4 ?

[Steven Haigh]

On 2016-06-07 11:14, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 6 June 2016 at 17:27, Rupert Kolb  
wrote:

Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this.

For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get 
my

system running again).
(And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link 
to an

upstream patch )

In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution:
It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), 
but

updates just every half year.


It depends on what you are defining as an update because it means
different things. If you are talking about security updates and major
problem updates then it is sooner than 6 months.


Then I prefer a system
-- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more 
frequently,

-- because of merely about 3 years of update support,
++ but with a more current update policy
++ and an overall more recent software.



You are asking a lot for free.


If the warm fuzzy feeling of a version number update means a lot to you, 
and you don't care about reinstalling stuff once a year, Fedora may be 
better for you.


Much more bleeding edge with versions, but you'll need more of an admin 
effort to make sure it all works.


--
Steven Haigh

Email: net...@crc.id.au
Web: https://www.crc.id.au
Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897

Re: Updates of samba4 ?

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 6 June 2016 at 17:27, Rupert Kolb  wrote:
> Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this.
>
> For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get my
> system running again).
> (And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link to an
> upstream patch )
>
> In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution:
> It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), but
> updates just every half year.

It depends on what you are defining as an update because it means
different things. If you are talking about security updates and major
problem updates then it is sooner than 6 months.

> Then I prefer a system
> -- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more frequently,
> -- because of merely about 3 years of update support,
> ++ but with a more current update policy
> ++ and an overall more recent software.
>

You are asking a lot for free.



> Rupert
>
>
> Stephen John Smoogen schrieb:
>
>> On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> are there any updates for samba4 ?
>>> At the moment in the repo is:
>>> samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64  from 13th of april.
>>>
>>> At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02
>>> (one
>>> month ago!)
>>>
>>> As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for
>>> instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the
>>> updated version !!!
>>>
>> You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is
>> causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the
>> git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL).
>> Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2
>> times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current
>> release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release
>> moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only
>> backport major fixes.]
>>
>> So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see
>> if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in
>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta
>> comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may
>> need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3
>>
>>
>>> Rupert



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.

Re: Updates of samba4 ?

[prmarino1]

By the way if you have any support licenses with RedHat create a matching case 
with them too. The developers give higher priority to cases created by paid 
customers. 

  Original Message  
From: Rupert Kolb
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 17:27
To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Updates of samba4 ?

Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this.

For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get my 
system running again).
(And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link to 
an upstream patch )

In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution:
It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), but 
updates just every half year.
Then I prefer a system
-- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more frequently,
-- because of merely about 3 years of update support,
++ but with a more current update policy
++ and an overall more recent software.

Rupert


Stephen John Smoogen schrieb:
> On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> are there any updates for samba4 ?
>> At the moment in the repo is:
>> samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64 from 13th of april.
>>
>> At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one
>> month ago!)
>>
>> As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for
>> instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the
>> updated version !!!
>>
> You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is
> causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the
> git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL).
> Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2
> times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current
> release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release
> moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only
> backport major fixes.]
>
> So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see
> if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta
> comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may
> need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3
>
>
>> Rupert

Re: Updates of samba4 ?

[Rupert Kolb]

Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this.

For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get my 
system running again).
(And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link to 
an upstream patch )


In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution:
It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), but 
updates just every half year.

Then I prefer a system
-- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more frequently,
-- because of merely about 3 years of update support,
++ but with a more current update policy
++ and an overall more recent software.

Rupert


Stephen John Smoogen schrieb:

On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb  wrote:

Hi,

are there any updates for samba4 ?
At the moment in the repo is:
samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64  from 13th of april.

At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one
month ago!)

As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for
instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the
updated version !!!


You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is
causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the
git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL).
Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2
times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current
release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release
moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only
backport major fixes.]

So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see
if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in
http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta
comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may
need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3



Rupert

Re: Updates of samba4 ?

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> are there any updates for samba4 ?
> At the moment in the repo is:
> samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64  from 13th of april.
>
> At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one
> month ago!)
>
> As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for
> instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the
> updated version !!!
>

You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is
causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the
git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL).
Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2
times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current
release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release
moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only
backport major fixes.]

So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see
if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in
http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta
comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may
need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3


> Rupert



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.

Updates of samba4 ?

[Rupert Kolb]

Hi,

are there any updates for samba4 ?
At the moment in the repo is:
samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64  from 13th of april.

At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 
(one month ago!)


As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for 
instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the 
updated version !!!


Rupert