Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution
We (small CS department) went with AlmaLinux. It too came out with 8.4 in a very short time frame. On Centos it usually took a few weeks, so I was unprepared for it to be so quick. I only noticed when our clients reported a different version. New installs are now AlmaLinux and existing Centos8 servers and VMs were re-installed in place using their excellent migration script[1]. Our existing kickstart files and puppet config only required very minor changes. It's so good I worry they'll be bought by some big tech company. :-) I tried Stream shortly after the Centos8 announcement was made. My testing suggested it wasn't suitable for production. Stuff we used was broken and didn't get fixed for weeks. CERN have a bigger and more skilled IT team that allow them to manage this. [1]: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_AlmaLinux_almalinux-2Ddeploy=DwIGaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=zqwrVpjrVs8gXzNgn6eyvhYUFuM6bT6v-N8WRajUjMZKLBq4cB_AZ_76z28Ah8lT=eUj3V2c_ysMkVwkE6LsbZ0gIIo-NDO6kYstpHsoexGw= The University of St Andrews is a charity registered in Scotland, No: SC013532 On 26/10/2021, 15:09, "Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide on behalf of Vinícius Ferrão" wrote: When RHEL 8.4 landed, the Oracle guys had OL 8.4 in a single day released.
Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution
I already moved to Oracle Linux. It’s a clone too, has Oracle backing it and it’s fast to push updates from RHEL. Also they have UEK and Oracle RDMA Release, which is useful in HPC environments. Perhaps in the future we may move to Alma or Rocky. But for now we’re using Oracle Linux. Stream is not an option either. When RHEL 8.4 landed, the Oracle guys had OL 8.4 in a single day released. The only thing that I miss from CentOS is CentOS vault, which is unavailable. Regards. PS: This is not Oracle Linux propaganda. It’s just fact showing. We know that everybody dislikes Oracle, but that’s what we have right now. Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Oct 2021, at 10:21, Mark Stodola wrote: > > I haven't checked in on this in quite some time. Has there been a clear > preference to Rocky over Alma thus far? I know I intend to use one or the > other, but would be curious to know the direction of the wind among the > scientific community. > > Fax: (608) 831-9591 > >> On 10/26/21 8:18 AM, ~Stack~ wrote: >>> On 10/25/21 9:27 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: >>> The right decision is to restart Scientific Linux. Obviously that is not >>> going to happen, which leaves organizations like mine in a bind. I am not >>> sure what we will do, but CentOS Stream is definitely not it. >>> >> >> >> The restart is called >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__rockylinux.org_=DwICaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=zu2WhRSN4T1horhPg87GzkI7xBN78HdOdKckGDLwxqmE0n02jZXf3KF02Xed8D--=M-7zZdP1KjXMAWHjuu55mPPcibTiP2p9wdKKMlJ-2IE= >> ;-) >> >> There's a big (and growing fast) group of HPC and scientific computing >> professionals using Rocky 8 already. >> >> ~Stack~
Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution
On 10/26/21 8:21 AM, Mark Stodola wrote: I haven't checked in on this in quite some time. Has there been a clear preference to Rocky over Alma thus far? I know I intend to use one or the other, but would be curious to know the direction of the wind among the scientific community. First, I want to make it clear that I'm heavily involved with Rocky and thus biased. :-) I don't think there is a "winner". I think it is great we have two options replacing CentOS. I've got nothing against Alma. However, I don't know what kind of HPC/Scientific community it has so I can't comment there. But I do know that Rocky already has a lot of strong support in the scientific and HPC world and it's growing. I know of some /really/ big systems running Rocky already with more planned. I know a few have some announcements planned for SuperComputing this year and I don't want to steal their thunder. :-) If you are interested in more information, you can create an account at chat.rockylinux.org and then add the SIG/HPC channel to chat with a lot of people in the Rocky HPC community. Happy computing! ~Stack~
Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution
I haven't checked in on this in quite some time. Has there been a clear preference to Rocky over Alma thus far? I know I intend to use one or the other, but would be curious to know the direction of the wind among the scientific community. Fax: (608) 831-9591 On 10/26/21 8:18 AM, ~Stack~ wrote: On 10/25/21 9:27 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: The right decision is to restart Scientific Linux. Obviously that is not going to happen, which leaves organizations like mine in a bind. I am not sure what we will do, but CentOS Stream is definitely not it. The restart is called https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__rockylinux.org_=DwICaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=zu2WhRSN4T1horhPg87GzkI7xBN78HdOdKckGDLwxqmE0n02jZXf3KF02Xed8D--=M-7zZdP1KjXMAWHjuu55mPPcibTiP2p9wdKKMlJ-2IE= ;-) There's a big (and growing fast) group of HPC and scientific computing professionals using Rocky 8 already. ~Stack~
Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution
On 10/25/21 9:27 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: The right decision is to restart Scientific Linux. Obviously that is not going to happen, which leaves organizations like mine in a bind. I am not sure what we will do, but CentOS Stream is definitely not it. The restart is called https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__rockylinux.org_=DwICaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=zu2WhRSN4T1horhPg87GzkI7xBN78HdOdKckGDLwxqmE0n02jZXf3KF02Xed8D--=M-7zZdP1KjXMAWHjuu55mPPcibTiP2p9wdKKMlJ-2IE= ;-) There's a big (and growing fast) group of HPC and scientific computing professionals using Rocky 8 already. ~Stack~
