Re: 224.0.0.251

2014-05-24 Thread David Sommerseth

On 24/05/14 04:11, ToddAndMargo wrote:


Seems I have already look at 5353 once before.  From
one of my penetration reports:

 Port 5353/udp (zeroconf) is registered to the Link
 Local Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR) service.
 It is part of how Windows computers identify themselves
 to each other on a local area network and is part of
 the normal operation of the Windows XP Operating System.
 Further information can be found at:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLMNR



mDNS can be used to much more as well when combing it with DNS-SD [1], like 
telling other hosts what kind of services each boxes provides.  mDNS coupled 
with DNS-SD is quite a beast, avahi-daemon provides the same functionality on 
Linux boxes as well.


[1] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_configuration_networking#Service_discovery

But it's also possible to provide DNS-SD using a normal DNS server as well, 
which can be suitable to announce services on servers you don't want to have 
avahi-daemon running.


It can surely be quite handy, but if you're concerned about security [2] it 
surely has it challenges there too.  I generally block port 5353 (tcp and udp) 
on all my boxes when they're not on a network I fully trust.  And I also 
carefully configure avahi-daemon (/etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf) too, if I want 
avahi-daemon running.


[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_configuration_networking#Security_issues


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David Sommerseth


Re: 224.0.0.251

2014-05-23 Thread jdow

On 2014/05/23 14:25, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 05/23/2014 02:08 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote:

On 23 May 2014 22:02, ToddAndMargo toddandma...@zoho.com wrote:

Hi All,

Is there some special meaning (like 127.0.0.1.) to
the following IP address?

 224.0.0.251

Many thanks,
-T


It is an IP Multicast address.

host 224.0.0.251

will tell you a bit more.

Alan.



Hi Alan,

$ host 224.0.0.251
Host 251.0.0.224.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Not sure what I am suppose to find.

This is why I ask (VLC's doing):

kernel: Vlan-out Everything Else IN= OUT=eth0.5 SRC=192.168.254.10
DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=56 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353
DPT=5353 LEN=36

eth0.5 is a virtual Ethernet too, not hooked to the Internet.

And port 3535 UDP?

$ grep -i 3535 /etc/services
ms-la   3535/tcp# MS-LA
ms-la   3535/udp# MS-LA


Thank you for the help,
-T


Lysdexic are we? It's 5353 which seems to be an alternate DNS address.

{^_^}   Joanne me too be lysdexic


Re: 224.0.0.251

2014-05-23 Thread jdow

On 2014/05/23 18:38, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 05/23/2014 06:17 PM, jdow wrote:

On 2014/05/23 14:25, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 05/23/2014 02:08 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote:

On 23 May 2014 22:02, ToddAndMargo toddandma...@zoho.com wrote:

Hi All,

Is there some special meaning (like 127.0.0.1.) to
the following IP address?

 224.0.0.251

Many thanks,
-T


It is an IP Multicast address.

host 224.0.0.251

will tell you a bit more.

Alan.



Hi Alan,

$ host 224.0.0.251
Host 251.0.0.224.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Not sure what I am suppose to find.

This is why I ask (VLC's doing):

kernel: Vlan-out Everything Else IN= OUT=eth0.5 SRC=192.168.254.10
DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=56 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP
SPT=5353
DPT=5353 LEN=36

eth0.5 is a virtual Ethernet too, not hooked to the Internet.

And port 3535 UDP?

$ grep -i 3535 /etc/services
ms-la   3535/tcp# MS-LA
ms-la   3535/udp# MS-LA


Thank you for the help,
-T


Lysdexic are we? It's 5353 which seems to be an alternate DNS address.

{^_^}   Joanne me too be lysdexic



Hi Joanne,

$ grep -i 5353 /etc/services
mdns5353/tcp# Multicast DNS
mdns5353/udp# Multicast DNS

Makes more sense.

Interesting.  M$'s list of official ports does not
list it:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832017#method67

I have been working on a PCI (credit card security) probe
of a customer's site all day.  I keep mixing up my ports
with their's.   (When you probe the entire network, you get your own
IP as well as their's and everyone else on the network.) AA

Apparently lysdexic is catching.  Now the point I really
wanted to make was, was, was...  Oh phooey, I forgot.  :')

Who are you again?  Are you still in the Navy?   :-D

-T


Naw, even the Swiss navy would not accept me. But I have done some Swiss
Navy projects in my time. (Local slang for personal. If the now have a
navy I'll have to use something like Nigerian Navy.)

{O,o]   Back into my hole in the wall.   Joanne Glad I helped you make sense.


Re: 224.0.0.251

2014-05-23 Thread ToddAndMargo

On 05/23/2014 06:17 PM, jdow wrote:

On 2014/05/23 14:25, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 05/23/2014 02:08 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote:

On 23 May 2014 22:02, ToddAndMargo toddandma...@zoho.com wrote:

Hi All,

Is there some special meaning (like 127.0.0.1.) to
the following IP address?

 224.0.0.251

Many thanks,
-T


It is an IP Multicast address.

host 224.0.0.251

will tell you a bit more.

Alan.



Hi Alan,

$ host 224.0.0.251
Host 251.0.0.224.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Not sure what I am suppose to find.

This is why I ask (VLC's doing):

kernel: Vlan-out Everything Else IN= OUT=eth0.5 SRC=192.168.254.10
DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=56 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP
SPT=5353
DPT=5353 LEN=36

eth0.5 is a virtual Ethernet too, not hooked to the Internet.

And port 3535 UDP?

$ grep -i 3535 /etc/services
ms-la   3535/tcp# MS-LA
ms-la   3535/udp# MS-LA


Thank you for the help,
-T


Lysdexic are we? It's 5353 which seems to be an alternate DNS address.

{^_^}   Joanne me too be lysdexic



Seems I have already look at 5353 once before.  From
one of my penetration reports:

Port 5353/udp (zeroconf) is registered to the Link
Local Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR) service.
It is part of how Windows computers identify themselves
to each other on a local area network and is part of
the normal operation of the Windows XP Operating System.
Further information can be found at:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLMNR

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