Re: what runs libvirt?

2016-06-25 Thread David Sommerseth
On 26/06/16 02:37, David Sommerseth wrote:
> On 24/06/16 16:48, Ken Teh wrote:
>> I was trying to set up dnsmasq and discovered it's already running. 
>> Apparently as part of libvirt.  Why is libvirt started?  What starts it?
>>
>> I tried looking through systemd output but the only thing about systemd
>> that I can understand are its services.  Everything else is so far
>> gobbledy-gook.
> 
> libvirtd starts by default a virtual closed network (which is NATed) for
> VMs.  This is usually assigned an IP range in the 192.168.200.0/24
> range, IIRC.  And it is only available for VMs running on the box,
> started and configured by libvirt.  And libvirtd uses dnsmasq for these
> services.
> 
> To stop it, run these commands as root:
> 
> # virsh
> virsh # net-list --all
>  Name State  Autostart Persistent
> --
>  default  inactive   noyes
> 
> virsh # net-destroy default
> Network default destroyed
> 
> virsh #
> 
> 
> 'destroy' sounds harsh and brutal, but in libvirt lingo, it means "stop
> running".
> 
> To make this permanent, run this command in virsh
> 
> virsh # net-autostart default --disable
> Network default unmarked as autostarted
> virsh #
> 
> That's it.
> 

Oh, and I forgot the systemd dependency stuff.  Try running this:

# systemctl list-dependencies --reverse libvirtd

I guess you'll see that it's just some graphical stuff needing it, most
likely started if you're having a graphical console.  The --reverse
option should give an indication which other systemd unit files depends
on libvirtd running.  Removing --reverse should list all systemd units
libvirtd needs to have running to be able to start.

But you should be able to disable it:

# systemctl disable libvirtd

And if it still starts, you can enforce it to never be started:

# systemctl mask libvirtd

To reverse these opeartions, use 'enable' instead of 'disable' and
'unmask' instead of 'mask'.


-- 
kind regards,

David Sommerseth


Re: what runs libvirt?

2016-06-25 Thread David Sommerseth
On 24/06/16 16:48, Ken Teh wrote:
> I was trying to set up dnsmasq and discovered it's already running. 
> Apparently as part of libvirt.  Why is libvirt started?  What starts it?
> 
> I tried looking through systemd output but the only thing about systemd
> that I can understand are its services.  Everything else is so far
> gobbledy-gook.

libvirtd starts by default a virtual closed network (which is NATed) for
VMs.  This is usually assigned an IP range in the 192.168.200.0/24
range, IIRC.  And it is only available for VMs running on the box,
started and configured by libvirt.  And libvirtd uses dnsmasq for these
services.

To stop it, run these commands as root:

# virsh
virsh # net-list --all
 Name State  Autostart Persistent
--
 default  inactive   noyes

virsh # net-destroy default
Network default destroyed

virsh #


'destroy' sounds harsh and brutal, but in libvirt lingo, it means "stop
running".

To make this permanent, run this command in virsh

virsh # net-autostart default --disable
Network default unmarked as autostarted
virsh #

That's it.


-- 
kind regards,

David Sommerseth


Re: what runs libvirt?

2016-06-24 Thread Ken Teh

libvirt's website has instructions on how to run dnsmasq alongside their 
instance
of dnsmasq.   The trick is to add a 'bind-interfaces' in the dnsmasq.conf and to
explicitly specify the listening address or interface.



On 06/24/2016 10:12 AM, Mark Stodola wrote:

On 06/24/2016 09:48 AM, Ken Teh wrote:

I was trying to set up dnsmasq and discovered it's already running.
Apparently as part of libvirt.  Why is libvirt started?  What starts it?

I tried looking through systemd output but the only thing about systemd
that I can understand are its services.  Everything else is so far
gobbledy-gook.


I ran into this recently on my Fedora laptop.  It was quite 
annoying/frustrating to find out about this default configuration.  I issued a 
'systemctl stop libvirtd' and 'systemctl disable libvirtd' to disable it.  It 
is used for the virtualization system, which relies on dnsmasq for the virtual 
lan these days...  It uses an alternate configuration file than the normal 
/etc/dnsmasq.d/ files or wherever they live these days.  Aft4r that, I as able 
to configure it as I normally do and start it using 'systemctl start dnsmasq'.

If you rely on it for virtualization, you probably have to go fiddle with 
libvirtd's alternate dnsmasq config files to add the options you need for other 
purposes.  This wasn't the case for me.


Re: what runs libvirt?

2016-06-24 Thread Mark Stodola

On 06/24/2016 09:48 AM, Ken Teh wrote:

I was trying to set up dnsmasq and discovered it's already running.
Apparently as part of libvirt.  Why is libvirt started?  What starts it?

I tried looking through systemd output but the only thing about systemd
that I can understand are its services.  Everything else is so far
gobbledy-gook.


I ran into this recently on my Fedora laptop.  It was quite 
annoying/frustrating to find out about this default configuration.  I 
issued a 'systemctl stop libvirtd' and 'systemctl disable libvirtd' to 
disable it.  It is used for the virtualization system, which relies on 
dnsmasq for the virtual lan these days...  It uses an alternate 
configuration file than the normal /etc/dnsmasq.d/ files or wherever 
they live these days.  Aft4r that, I as able to configure it as I 
normally do and start it using 'systemctl start dnsmasq'.


If you rely on it for virtualization, you probably have to go fiddle 
with libvirtd's alternate dnsmasq config files to add the options you 
need for other purposes.  This wasn't the case for me.