Re: Updates of samba4 ?
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:54 AM, James M. Pulverwrote: > How does everyone feel about the SerNet Samba.plus offering? Anyone used it? > https://www.sernet.de/en/sernet/ > > https://samba.plus/samba/ > > I'm thinking that could be a reasonable way to get newer Samba (With Domain > Controller capabilities) as well as support the Samba effort (they claim to > employ 5 of the core Samba developers)... > > The basic subscription cost isn't bad, though I have no idea about the cost > for their level 3 support which is most interesting (source code fixes > coordinated with Red Hat)... For a genuine authentication service and account management toolkit, it's not a bad subscription price. They have a positive reputation in the Samba development groups when I've seen posts involving their tools.
Re: Updates of samba4 ?
How does everyone feel about the SerNet Samba.plus offering? Anyone used it? https://www.sernet.de/en/sernet/ https://samba.plus/samba/ I'm thinking that could be a reasonable way to get newer Samba (With Domain Controller capabilities) as well as support the Samba effort (they claim to employ 5 of the core Samba developers)... The basic subscription cost isn't bad, though I have no idea about the cost for their level 3 support which is most interesting (source code fixes coordinated with Red Hat)... James Pulver CLASSE Computer Group Cornell University On 06/07/2016 07:12 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb <rupert.k...@med.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote: Hi, are there any updates for samba4 ? At the moment in the repo is: samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64 from 13th of april. Those are some add-on libraries for depencencies of other software. They're not a full Samba 4.x. At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one month ago!) As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the updated version !!! You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL). Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2 times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only backport major fixes.] And there's my work over at https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo. I gave up backporting Samba 4 to RHEL 6 or SL 6 a while ago, the dependencies have gotten out of hand. But my tools provide a full domain controller. The RHEL upstream packages, even for RHEL 7 or for Fedora 23, refuse to do this because the funky "heimdal" library they use for Kerberos is incompatible with the base MIT Kerberos built into and relied on by Samba domain controllers. So you can't just turn on the setting in the .spec file, because the option is not being tested with the samba RPM updtes. So, I wrote that repo and the wrappers in it. So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3 Not gonna happen for RHEL 6. The base Samba 3.x in RHEL 6 and SL 6 fairly good,and you'll need to update to RHEL 7 or SL 7 to get a really up-to-date Samba release with full domain controller replacement working. Rupert -- Stephen J Smoogen.
Re: Updates of samba4 ?
On 2016-06-07 11:14, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 6 June 2016 at 17:27, Rupert Kolbwrote: Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this. For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get my system running again). (And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link to an upstream patch ) In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution: It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), but updates just every half year. It depends on what you are defining as an update because it means different things. If you are talking about security updates and major problem updates then it is sooner than 6 months. Then I prefer a system -- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more frequently, -- because of merely about 3 years of update support, ++ but with a more current update policy ++ and an overall more recent software. You are asking a lot for free. If the warm fuzzy feeling of a version number update means a lot to you, and you don't care about reinstalling stuff once a year, Fedora may be better for you. Much more bleeding edge with versions, but you'll need more of an admin effort to make sure it all works. -- Steven Haigh Email: net...@crc.id.au Web: https://www.crc.id.au Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897
Re: Updates of samba4 ?
On 6 June 2016 at 17:27, Rupert Kolb <rupert.k...@med.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote: > Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this. > > For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get my > system running again). > (And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link to an > upstream patch ) > > In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution: > It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), but > updates just every half year. It depends on what you are defining as an update because it means different things. If you are talking about security updates and major problem updates then it is sooner than 6 months. > Then I prefer a system > -- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more frequently, > -- because of merely about 3 years of update support, > ++ but with a more current update policy > ++ and an overall more recent software. > You are asking a lot for free. > Rupert > > > Stephen John Smoogen schrieb: > >> On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb <rupert.k...@med.uni-tuebingen.de> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> are there any updates for samba4 ? >>> At the moment in the repo is: >>> samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64 from 13th of april. >>> >>> At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 >>> (one >>> month ago!) >>> >>> As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for >>> instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the >>> updated version !!! >>> >> You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is >> causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the >> git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL). >> Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2 >> times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current >> release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release >> moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only >> backport major fixes.] >> >> So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see >> if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta >> comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may >> need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3 >> >> >>> Rupert -- Stephen J Smoogen.
Re: Updates of samba4 ?
By the way if you have any support licenses with RedHat create a matching case with them too. The developers give higher priority to cases created by paid customers. Original Message From: Rupert Kolb Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 17:27 To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov Subject: Re: Updates of samba4 ? Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this. For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get my system running again). (And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link to an upstream patch ) In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution: It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), but updates just every half year. Then I prefer a system -- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more frequently, -- because of merely about 3 years of update support, ++ but with a more current update policy ++ and an overall more recent software. Rupert Stephen John Smoogen schrieb: > On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb <rupert.k...@med.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> are there any updates for samba4 ? >> At the moment in the repo is: >> samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64 from 13th of april. >> >> At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one >> month ago!) >> >> As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for >> instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the >> updated version !!! >> > You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is > causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the > git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL). > Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2 > times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current > release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release > moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only > backport major fixes.] > > So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see > if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in > http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta > comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may > need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3 > > >> Rupert
Re: Updates of samba4 ?
Thanks for clarifying. I was not aware of this. For the short term I downgraded to an older version of samba4 (to get my system running again). (And yes, there is an entry in bugzilla for "my" problem. And a link to an upstream patch ) In the medium term I'm looking for an other distribution: It doesn't make sense to have about 10 years of support (in theory), but updates just every half year. Then I prefer a system -- where I have to do upgrades to the next major versions more frequently, -- because of merely about 3 years of update support, ++ but with a more current update policy ++ and an overall more recent software. Rupert Stephen John Smoogen schrieb: On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb <rupert.k...@med.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote: Hi, are there any updates for samba4 ? At the moment in the repo is: samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64 from 13th of april. At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one month ago!) As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the updated version !!! You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL). Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2 times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only backport major fixes.] So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3 Rupert
Re: Updates of samba4 ?
On 6 June 2016 at 13:00, Rupert Kolb <rupert.k...@med.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote: > Hi, > > are there any updates for samba4 ? > At the moment in the repo is: > samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64 from 13th of april. > > At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one > month ago!) > > As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for > instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the > updated version !!! > You seem unfamiliar with how Scientific Linux ships software which is causing you some confusion. Scientific Linux (SL) is built from the git source code that Red Hat puts out for its Enterprise Linux (RHEL). Red Hat does periodic updates to its software on a scale of 1 to 2 times a year but these upgrades may only backport fixes to the current release number or may do a complete upgrade. [When a RHEL release moves from various production stages which RHEL-6 just did, they only backport major fixes.] So if you need SL to ship samba4-4.2.12 then you need to check to see if there are existing bugs on the issues you need fixed in http://bugzilla.redhat.com and also test out whenever RHEL-6.9beta comes out to see if the bug was backported to it. Otherwise you may need to look at Scientific Linux 7 and if it is fixed/updated in SL7.3 > Rupert -- Stephen J Smoogen.
Updates of samba4 ?
Hi, are there any updates for samba4 ? At the moment in the repo is: samba4-4.2.10-6.el6_7.x86_64 from 13th of april. At download.samba.org is a updated version samba-4.2.12 from 2016-05-02 (one month ago!) As there are some bugs in 4.2.10, which seem to be solved in 4.2.12 (for instance: 'wbinfo -u' returns no users), I'm really interested in the updated version !!! Rupert