Re: dnf?

2015-06-06 Thread Lamar Owen

On 06/05/2015 05:21 PM, Jamie Duncan wrote:


Rhel won't change package management tools mid release,  and they 
shouldn't.


Rhel 8 will likely use dnf.



So it will be the dandified yellowdog updater - modified. yay.

I guess the name 'dnf' is no worse than any others, except now it is 
going to make me think of a grammar-description language melanged with 
an M4 syntax construct.  yuck.


dnf?

2015-06-05 Thread ToddAndMargo

Hi All,

FC22 had replaced yum with dnf.  Same command syntax.
I have used dnf on fc22 and rather like it.

Will we be seeing it in a future SL7.x release?

-T


Re: dnf?

2015-06-05 Thread Jamie Duncan
Rhel won't change package management tools mid release,  and they
shouldn't.

Rhel 8 will likely use dnf.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015, 4:15 PM Jim Campbell jcampb...@gnome.org wrote:

 Hi,

 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015, at 03:07 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  FC22 had replaced yum with dnf.  Same command syntax.
  I have used dnf on fc22 and rather like it.
 
  Will we be seeing it in a future SL7.x release?
 
  -T

 My guess would be no. If it were to be included in a future SL7 release,
 though, you would see it in the North American Upstream Vendor release
 notes for their release (i.e., you'd see it in the RHEL 7.x release
 notes, and then you'd know that SL 7.x would get it as a derivative of
 RHEL).

 Hope that helps,

 Jim



Re: dnf?

2015-06-05 Thread Jim Campbell
Hi,

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015, at 03:07 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 FC22 had replaced yum with dnf.  Same command syntax.
 I have used dnf on fc22 and rather like it.
 
 Will we be seeing it in a future SL7.x release?
 
 -T

My guess would be no. If it were to be included in a future SL7 release,
though, you would see it in the North American Upstream Vendor release
notes for their release (i.e., you'd see it in the RHEL 7.x release
notes, and then you'd know that SL 7.x would get it as a derivative of
RHEL).

Hope that helps,

Jim


Re: dnf?

2015-06-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Jamie Duncan jamie.e.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
 s/dns/systemd/g and get the same debate, imo

Not quite. systemd is trying to replace many, many more long-standing
system components, and actually does its stated replace init scripts
function reasonably well, and solves a  number of the longstanding
init script problems.

dnf is only replacing one system,  and doesn't actually solve any of
the genuine long-standing problems with the original toolkit.