Re: timeshift
On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 07:38:07PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: > Apple products and the Apple OS (currently based upon BSD) are > proprietary. If one needs service (hardware or software), one > effectively must use an Apple store (at least in the USA). The > colleague is retired and has little money (this is the downward > mobile USA economy save for the neo-liberal profiteers). She got a > used/refurb Lenovo Carbon X1 and I just installed a working Linux on > it -- everything worked "out of the box". I am sympathetic with people on fixed income. All of us heading in that direction. But as the saying goes, a stingy person pays twice, a fool pays forever. A frugal person would do a careful evaluation after assigning $$$ numbers to the value of the data and to the number of hours spent (now and forever), as balanced against the $$$ cost of hardware, software and services. Cheapest solution may be a backblaze subscription. You never know until you do the numbers. You cannot have something for nothing, you have to spend real $$$ somewhere and you should never value your time at $0/hour. P.S. This would be $10 please. Payable to my paypal. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: timeshift
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 2:48 PM ~Stack~ wrote: > > On 8/9/21 10:48 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: > > She wants an incremental backup system that uses a removable external > > drive, and that she can initiate (not time interval daemon driven), and > > that allows her to "find" a deleted file that she needs -- but for which > > she looks both by the file name, but also by scanning content when > > necessary (including viewing an image file such as JPEG or a video file > > such as MP4). > > Rsnapshot allows for you to run manually whenever you want. > > As for finding files, it is just any utility you want to use to look at > the filesystem. One of my favorites was to swap the drives out for somewhere offsite and enable Kerberos based NFS4, rsync over SSH, or raw rsync for access to different backups with distinct privileges as needed, It made "Let me get a copy of my home directory from last month" much, much easier.
Re: timeshift
On 8/9/21 10:48 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: She wants an incremental backup system that uses a removable external drive, and that she can initiate (not time interval daemon driven), and that allows her to "find" a deleted file that she needs -- but for which she looks both by the file name, but also by scanning content when necessary (including viewing an image file such as JPEG or a video file such as MP4). Rsnapshot allows for you to run manually whenever you want. As for finding files, it is just any utility you want to use to look at the filesystem. ~Stack~
Re: timeshift
I have added one previous response to this subject below that from Stack. The multiple back-up, remote site, and redundant fail-over described below is of course very desirable and totally infeasible for the end-user situation. As for backing up to the cloud, the user has a USA DSL connection to the web, with an internal (inside the house) an IEEE 802.11 network for which the combination DSL access "router" is under the configuration control of the ISP (in this region for DSL over a USA voice telephone provider copper twisted pair connection for the "last mile" from Frontier Communications as the provider -- for those outside the USA, the communications networks are, as with the USA for-profit health care system, both much more expensive and much less capable than what many of those on this list are familiar. Thus, remote backup is not a viable alternative (particularly given Internet service interruptions and degradations from the provider, allowed by the USA for-profit "regulations", even when the lower layer DSL is "active"). The end user in question uses "cook book" vocational training IT type books to use the office suite applications she wants (e.g., MS Office XP now being forced to upgrade to MS Office 2007, currently running under CrossOver -- commercially supported Wine), does not want to learn LibreOffice and until LibreOffice is fully compatible with all MS Office formats, cannot use these for her professional applications (for which MS Office formats are the "standard" along with PDF -- LaTeX is not used). If I am to "support" her needs, I insist that her machines are "unix" -- today, Linux. She wants an incremental backup system that uses a removable external drive, and that she can initiate (not time interval daemon driven), and that allows her to "find" a deleted file that she needs -- but for which she looks both by the file name, but also by scanning content when necessary (including viewing an image file such as JPEG or a video file such as MP4). As for "attitude changes", I expect none. In large measure this is because "computer 'education'" typically is vocational "secretarial" studies to use a few end user IT applications, and with no explanation or understanding of how a modern classical computer "works" (classical, not quantum, neurosynaptic, etc.). In the USA, a major issue is the lack of education in mathematics -- USA "high school algebra" already is being phased out for a general 4 year university degree at many USA accredited "colleges and universities". Without mathematics, very little understanding of computers is possible (both for the software and the hardware). Déjà Dup may be a viable solution -- I will look at that. On 8/9/21 7:17 AM, ~Stack~ wrote: On 8/9/21 1:47 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: "rsnapshot". Old, stable, and extremely effective at configuring backs of both system files and user data. I second rsnapshot. Been using it for years and it is easy to set up Yearly/Monthly/Daily/Hourly backups and how many of each you want to keep. Since it uses symlinks, only the data changed takes up space. Since I'm backing up a LOT of systems, I've got a dedicated server. But I've used it before on just a single laptop with an external drive. The two cautions I'll give are: * Have an off-site backup too. I have two external drives that I rotate weekly to a secure location (it can be your house) that just has the most current backup. The way I do it, if I lose /everything/ else then worst case scenario I still have my data as of two weeks ago. I have lived through a catastrophic failure and I did so with very little data loss. * Backups can be very challenging. The more options you want and the more devices and the more OS's and the more things you want to tweak just make backup that much more complex. Pretty soon you find the only thing that matches your requirements are enterprise solutions like Bacula. Rsnapshot is simple and has several things you can tweak, but don't expect a lot of bells and whistles other then the basics. I've found that's true of most of the simple backup interfaces. Good luck! ~Stack~ Benson Muite wrote: Déjà Dup is a good choice for that. However, attitude changes may also be required. Assuming that some of the information is confidential time investment on the part of the user in understanding and being able to configure the system may be useful in the long run. If you manage to create an attitude change, please let us know how so we can replicate the process:)
Re: timeshift
I schedule a daily Borgmatic <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__torsion.org_borgmatic_=DwIFaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=Q2W5S9_WGa6-bPnNtMzSCoQ7YFjSFYltnHNVGcT1qK8=GcXA1fPmqGHHHfVPDHSqHktV5MiID3RyURw2znCWC40= > / BorgBacku <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__borgbackup.readthedocs.io_en_stable_=DwIFaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=Q2W5S9_WGa6-bPnNtMzSCoQ7YFjSFYltnHNVGcT1qK8=DJrugoIacMQ_aktZAddtSrFp6pkAkG0zFEUfL4f8m_c= >p locally and remote to BorgBase <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.borgbase.com_=DwIFaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=Q2W5S9_WGa6-bPnNtMzSCoQ7YFjSFYltnHNVGcT1qK8=jm5pk-6LjvUJNlrLwMWvWNJ6u9yasVttGJ-D83UphvY= >. Works like a charm. Data recovery could be a challenge for her. On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:04 AM Benson Muite wrote: > Déjà Dup is a good choice for that. > > However, attitude changes may also be required. Assuming that some of > the information is confidential time investment on the part of the user > in understanding and being able to configure the system may be useful in > the long run. If you manage to create an attitude change, please let us > know how so we can replicate the process:) > > On 8/9/21 9:49 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: > > Thank you for the suggestion. However, I am NOT going to run the end > > user machine -- I have too many other things to do to be full time > > technical support (an IT technician, albeit one who uses Linux, not MS > > Windows or MacOS X, etc). She wants an incremental backup without file > > duplication and with the ability to "read" files from the backup without > > actually restoring these to the machine storage unless she so chooses > > (eg, the ability to recover a file she deleted but now needs). Moreover, > > the backup unit (probably a 1 Tbyte external USB drive the size of a > > deck of playing cards or perhaps smaller) needs to be removable from the > > machine. She plans to plug in the drive, Linux automounts it, and then > > she starts the incremental backup application of her (not the "system") > > files, typically her home directory and the tree from there, including > > links to her own files (not system files). When done, she safely removes > > the USB drive until the next backup. Unless I were to write (or find) a > > tar script and produce a GUI front end (she does not like to use a > > terminal application but rather a GUI -- she uses a word processor, etc, > > but not vi, not even GUI gvim), tar would not be a useful solution. (I > > did use tar to move her files from her "old" laptop to her "new" one, > > using an external USB drive, but she does not know nor is willing to > > understand how to do this.) > > > > Timeshift does appear to be a system backup -- this is not what she > wants. > > > > Regards > > > > Yasha > > > > On 8/8/21 10:19 PM, Andrew Komornicki wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a > >> periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and > >> easy. > >> > >> regards, > >> Andrew > >> > >> > >> > >> On 8/8/2021 7:38 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: > >>> Apple products and the Apple OS (currently based upon BSD) are > >>> proprietary.� If one needs service (hardware or software), one > >>> effectively must use an Apple store (at least in the USA).� The > >>> colleague is retired and has little money (this is the downward mobile > >>> USA economy save for the neo-liberal profiteers).� She got a > >>> used/refurb > >>> Lenovo Carbon X1 and I just installed a working Linux on it -- > >>> everything worked "out of the box". > >>> > >>> Reading more, Timeshift appears to be a systems, not end user files, > >>> backup utility.� Any suggestions from anyone? > >>> > >>> Take care.� Stay safe. > >>> > >>> On 8/8/21 7:32 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > >>>> On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive > >>>>> (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans > >>>>> to do incremental backups to the backup drive. > >>>>> > >>>>> ... what ... would anyone recommend? > >>>>> ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time > >>>> machine". > >>>> > >>>> spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair > >>>> (assuming you still had any). > >>>> >
Re: timeshift
Déjà Dup is a good choice for that. However, attitude changes may also be required. Assuming that some of the information is confidential time investment on the part of the user in understanding and being able to configure the system may be useful in the long run. If you manage to create an attitude change, please let us know how so we can replicate the process:) On 8/9/21 9:49 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: Thank you for the suggestion. However, I am NOT going to run the end user machine -- I have too many other things to do to be full time technical support (an IT technician, albeit one who uses Linux, not MS Windows or MacOS X, etc). She wants an incremental backup without file duplication and with the ability to "read" files from the backup without actually restoring these to the machine storage unless she so chooses (eg, the ability to recover a file she deleted but now needs). Moreover, the backup unit (probably a 1 Tbyte external USB drive the size of a deck of playing cards or perhaps smaller) needs to be removable from the machine. She plans to plug in the drive, Linux automounts it, and then she starts the incremental backup application of her (not the "system") files, typically her home directory and the tree from there, including links to her own files (not system files). When done, she safely removes the USB drive until the next backup. Unless I were to write (or find) a tar script and produce a GUI front end (she does not like to use a terminal application but rather a GUI -- she uses a word processor, etc, but not vi, not even GUI gvim), tar would not be a useful solution. (I did use tar to move her files from her "old" laptop to her "new" one, using an external USB drive, but she does not know nor is willing to understand how to do this.) Timeshift does appear to be a system backup -- this is not what she wants. Regards Yasha On 8/8/21 10:19 PM, Andrew Komornicki wrote: Hi, Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and easy. regards, Andrew On 8/8/2021 7:38 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: Apple products and the Apple OS (currently based upon BSD) are proprietary.� If one needs service (hardware or software), one effectively must use an Apple store (at least in the USA).� The colleague is retired and has little money (this is the downward mobile USA economy save for the neo-liberal profiteers).� She got a used/refurb Lenovo Carbon X1 and I just installed a working Linux on it -- everything worked "out of the box". Reading more, Timeshift appears to be a systems, not end user files, backup utility.� Any suggestions from anyone? Take care.� Stay safe. On 8/8/21 7:32 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans to do incremental backups to the backup drive. ... what ... would anyone recommend? ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time machine". spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair (assuming you still had any).
Re: timeshift
Thank you for the suggestion. However, I am NOT going to run the end user machine -- I have too many other things to do to be full time technical support (an IT technician, albeit one who uses Linux, not MS Windows or MacOS X, etc). She wants an incremental backup without file duplication and with the ability to "read" files from the backup without actually restoring these to the machine storage unless she so chooses (eg, the ability to recover a file she deleted but now needs). Moreover, the backup unit (probably a 1 Tbyte external USB drive the size of a deck of playing cards or perhaps smaller) needs to be removable from the machine. She plans to plug in the drive, Linux automounts it, and then she starts the incremental backup application of her (not the "system") files, typically her home directory and the tree from there, including links to her own files (not system files). When done, she safely removes the USB drive until the next backup. Unless I were to write (or find) a tar script and produce a GUI front end (she does not like to use a terminal application but rather a GUI -- she uses a word processor, etc, but not vi, not even GUI gvim), tar would not be a useful solution. (I did use tar to move her files from her "old" laptop to her "new" one, using an external USB drive, but she does not know nor is willing to understand how to do this.) Timeshift does appear to be a system backup -- this is not what she wants. Regards Yasha On 8/8/21 10:19 PM, Andrew Komornicki wrote: Hi, Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and easy. regards, Andrew On 8/8/2021 7:38 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: Apple products and the Apple OS (currently based upon BSD) are proprietary.� If one needs service (hardware or software), one effectively must use an Apple store (at least in the USA).� The colleague is retired and has little money (this is the downward mobile USA economy save for the neo-liberal profiteers).� She got a used/refurb Lenovo Carbon X1 and I just installed a working Linux on it -- everything worked "out of the box". Reading more, Timeshift appears to be a systems, not end user files, backup utility.� Any suggestions from anyone? Take care.� Stay safe. On 8/8/21 7:32 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans to do incremental backups to the backup drive. ... what ... would anyone recommend? ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time machine". spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair (assuming you still had any).
Re: timeshift
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 1:19 AM Andrew Komornicki wrote: > > Hi, > > Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a > periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and > easy. > > regards, > Andrew "rsnapshot". Old, stable, and extremely effective at configuring backs of both system files and user data. Properly configured, with the right database integration, it can also be used very effectively for database backups like mysql and postgresql or cluster backups of the same databases.
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Another option might be Sparkleshare: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.sparkleshare.org_=DwIC-g=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=ZWoNtu0dmVVf-BHn8ZvUBVCW9zs7Sa8kTg39yd7Ih6A=uo5aPcSMdvzL0oExBf143Q2SeqBuQZqF_beKswqvJww= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__itsfoss.com_sparkleshare_=DwIC-g=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=ZWoNtu0dmVVf-BHn8ZvUBVCW9zs7Sa8kTg39yd7Ih6A=OqVyXuKNFLzUJGC5AEnZyFoHO0YvCEUZofALSZY0OkE= On 8/9/21 9:03 AM, Benson Muite wrote: Timeshift seems not designed for backup of user data: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_teejee2008_timeshift=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=IUh4tGgFYr-shVFiJfG-kSvSYfcoqaZ_nvPUykvvOgk= but rather to enable restore of the system state in case of problematic upgrades. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fedoramagazine.org_easy-2Dbackups-2Dwith-2Ddeja-2Ddup_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=1y4q7o0WeTvr4L9FxogjH0ZEuwfp2dmHAqIKf399yvI= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fedoramagazine.org_butterfly-2Dbackup_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=vYm-TG86j0AfVRLr1ElNr58zKbej1XtJWlxDw6pYsmI= Deja Dup is ok with an external hard drive. Might also look at cloud backup services: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.computer.org_publications_tech-2Dnews_trends_7-2Dbest-2Dcloud-2Dbackup-2Dservices=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=jP9BVhVYM5XAJ81-T-RMF3kzrLypgkr269Kxkul0Aq8= On 8/9/21 8:19 AM, Andrew Komornicki wrote: Hi, Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and easy. regards, Andrew
Re: timeshift
Timeshift seems not designed for backup of user data: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_teejee2008_timeshift=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=IUh4tGgFYr-shVFiJfG-kSvSYfcoqaZ_nvPUykvvOgk= but rather to enable restore of the system state in case of problematic upgrades. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fedoramagazine.org_easy-2Dbackups-2Dwith-2Ddeja-2Ddup_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=1y4q7o0WeTvr4L9FxogjH0ZEuwfp2dmHAqIKf399yvI= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fedoramagazine.org_butterfly-2Dbackup_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=vYm-TG86j0AfVRLr1ElNr58zKbej1XtJWlxDw6pYsmI= Deja Dup is ok with an external hard drive. Might also look at cloud backup services: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.computer.org_publications_tech-2Dnews_trends_7-2Dbest-2Dcloud-2Dbackup-2Dservices=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=kMBIIfIFkTneWcORRx8ddYtO_aX8m_-IaUWhXbWPxuM=jP9BVhVYM5XAJ81-T-RMF3kzrLypgkr269Kxkul0Aq8= On 8/9/21 8:19 AM, Andrew Komornicki wrote: Hi, Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and easy. regards, Andrew On 8/8/2021 7:38 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: Apple products and the Apple OS (currently based upon BSD) are proprietary.� If one needs service (hardware or software), one effectively must use an Apple store (at least in the USA).� The colleague is retired and has little money (this is the downward mobile USA economy save for the neo-liberal profiteers).� She got a used/refurb Lenovo Carbon X1 and I just installed a working Linux on it -- everything worked "out of the box". Reading more, Timeshift appears to be a systems, not end user files, backup utility.� Any suggestions from anyone? Take care.� Stay safe. On 8/8/21 7:32 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans to do incremental backups to the backup drive. ... what ... would anyone recommend? ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time machine". spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair (assuming you still had any).
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Hi, Have you considered just doing a tar on the /home directory on a periodic basis, and just copy the tar file to a backup drive. Simple and easy. regards, Andrew On 8/8/2021 7:38 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: > Apple products and the Apple OS (currently based upon BSD) are > proprietary.� If one needs service (hardware or software), one > effectively must use an Apple store (at least in the USA).� The > colleague is retired and has little money (this is the downward mobile > USA economy save for the neo-liberal profiteers).� She got a used/refurb > Lenovo Carbon X1 and I just installed a working Linux on it -- > everything worked "out of the box". > > Reading more, Timeshift appears to be a systems, not end user files, > backup utility.� Any suggestions from anyone? > > Take care.� Stay safe. > > On 8/8/21 7:32 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: >>> >>> Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive >>> (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans >>> to do incremental backups to the backup drive. >>> >>> ... what ... would anyone recommend? >>> ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". >>> >> >> get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time >> machine". >> >> spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair >> (assuming you still had any). >>
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Apple products and the Apple OS (currently based upon BSD) are proprietary. If one needs service (hardware or software), one effectively must use an Apple store (at least in the USA). The colleague is retired and has little money (this is the downward mobile USA economy save for the neo-liberal profiteers). She got a used/refurb Lenovo Carbon X1 and I just installed a working Linux on it -- everything worked "out of the box". Reading more, Timeshift appears to be a systems, not end user files, backup utility. Any suggestions from anyone? Take care. Stay safe. On 8/8/21 7:32 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans to do incremental backups to the backup drive. ... what ... would anyone recommend? ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time machine". spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair (assuming you still had any).
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On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote: > > Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive > (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans > to do incremental backups to the backup drive. > > ... what ... would anyone recommend? > ... [need] tool [that] actually "works". > get a mac and use the built-in incremental backup tool called "time machine". spend more $$$, save on time, headache medicines and torn hair repair (assuming you still had any). -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
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Please see: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linuxandubuntu.com_home_best-2Dlinux-2Dbackup-2Dsoftware=DwICaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=5UcbCwGjjAIcjkdEZhYVj0cw4Pcf46i9_hrtNwcfGaI=huhszIYFVUpPjeU0-LQGlbxecI4URt0Y7GBf1uO1bY4= HomeSystem AdministrationBest Linux Backup Software For Desktops And Servers [2021] System Administration Best Linux Backup Software For Desktops And Servers [2021] by Sohail August 3, 2021 1. Timeshift (For desktops) end excerpt. Does anyone have experience with Timeshift? I have just configured a Linux laptop for a (retired) colleague who still is an academic journal editor. The colleague is an end-user with no real understanding of computers or computation much beyond how to use particular end-user GUI applications -- the computer is a tool, but is not interested in how the tool actually "works". Assuming that she obtains a, say 1 Tbyte, external USB drive (powered from the USB port and either mechanical or SSD), she plans to do incremental backups to the backup drive. What (if any) applications would anyone recommend? The end-user IS not a systems person and does not write "real" programs (but does have "formulae" in a spreadsheet applications). Thanks for any insight.
