Python Problem
Hi, I have a problem with using python on Scientific Linux 6.0 (Carbon): If I run a program that throws an exception, the program will hang and never return unless Ctrl-C is pressed. The simplest program that has this behaviour is 8- raise Exception() 8- Debugging this with strace leads to socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 4 connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=/var/run/abrt/abrt.socket}, 27^C unfinished ... as the last messages. Searching for this points to a big report on Redhat Enterprise Linux that I do not fully understand: https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614752 What should I do now? I am also curious about the bug management for Scientific Linux. The Web page does not mention this at all; what is the place to fill a bug like this? Regards Ole
Digest Format Readability
I get the SLU by digest once per day, and I am having difficulty following the conversations. The posts are all jumbled together and often there is unreadable ascii garbage to confuse things. I've tried a few of the listserv options for encoding and such, but to no avail. I'm reading these on the gmail web interface. Does anyone have any ideas for improving readability (while maintaining digest-mode)? Jean-François
RHEL 5.6 vs. SL 5 ?
Hi, I just took a peek at the download page for SL 5, and I only see 5.5. Does SL 5.6 exist somewhere, or has it never be released? If that's the case, is it simply a matter of install medium, e. g. are the updates for 5.5 (after a 'yum update') equal to a 5.6 install? I'd like to ask specifically, because I'd like to use SL 5 for a webserver, and AFAIK, RHEL 5.6 has replaced PHP 5.1.6 by PHP 5.3, which would be very welcome. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques 100% Linux et logiciels libres 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Web : http://www.microlinux.fr Mail : i...@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32
Re: Python Problem
On 04/14/2011 09:22 AM, Ole Streicher wrote: raise Exception() I am not able to reproduce it When I run your example I got: $ python python_exception.py Traceback (most recent call last): File python_exception.py, line 3, in module raise Exception() Exception $ Vaclav M.
Re: May be a bug in SL-60-i386-2011-03-03-Everything-DVD1.iso
On 04/14/2011 05:24 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: You need to go *straight* to VMWare. Do not stop at Xen, do not stop at KVM. Go right to commercial grade support, and install an ESX server if you can. Why should the better choice be ESX than KVM for somebody who is familiar with Linux? Seriously, I am building my first server for virtualisation and KVM works out of the box /two days ;-) /. Vaclav M.
Re: Python Problem
On 04/14/2011 01:07 PM, Ole Streicher wrote: Am 14.04.2011 13:31, schrieb Vaclav Mocek: On 04/14/2011 09:22 AM, Ole Streicher wrote: raise Exception() I am not able to reproduce it When I run your example I got: $ python python_exception.py Traceback (most recent call last): File python_exception.py, line 3, inmodule raise Exception() Exception The funny thing is that I can get both results: I saved the (minimal) program in a file $HOME/t.py If I start it like python t.py I get the exception as expected. If I start it as python ~/t.py it hangs as described. The home directory is a local disk. When the abrt daemon is disabled, the program does hang, too. Best Ole Still unable to reproduce it: $ chmod 700 python_exception.py $ ./python_exception.py Traceback (most recent call last): File ./python_exception.py, line 3, in module raise Exception() Exception $ Vaclav M.
RE: RHEL 5.6 vs. SL 5 ?
There's a beta SL5.6: http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/ Martin. -- Martin Bly RAL Tier1 Fabric Manager -Original Message- From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific- linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Nicolas Kovacs Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:21 PM To: scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov Subject: RHEL 5.6 vs. SL 5 ? Hi, I just took a peek at the download page for SL 5, and I only see 5.5. Does SL 5.6 exist somewhere, or has it never be released? If that's the case, is it simply a matter of install medium, e. g. are the updates for 5.5 (after a 'yum update') equal to a 5.6 install? I'd like to ask specifically, because I'd like to use SL 5 for a webserver, and AFAIK, RHEL 5.6 has replaced PHP 5.1.6 by PHP 5.3, which would be very welcome. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques 100% Linux et logiciels libres 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Web : http://www.microlinux.fr Mail : i...@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 -- Scanned by iCritical.
Re: SL vs. RPMForge repo
On 14 April 2011 05:49, Nicolas Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote: Quite some familiar names around this mailing list. Smiles. I just discovered that the text-based version of Anaconda has been seriously amputated in functionality. But that's probably an upstream decision. Correct. Plus, I wonder why I can't install SL6 on my good old Fujitsu Lifebook with a Pentium M processor, which the installer kernel refuses to work with. I believe that processor does not support PAE, so you are out of luck. Again, this is a Red Hat decision. The EL6 32-bit kernel is what was a PAE kernel for EL5. Putting it another way, the EL5 32-bit non-PAE kernel has been dropped for EL6 and so what would known as a PAE kernel has had that descriptor removed. Alan.
Re: SL vs. RPMForge repo
On 04/14/2011 05:49 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 14/04/2011 03:39, Nico Kadel-Garcia a écrit : Yeah, I just hopped over from CentOS due to the delays in release and the invisibility of the build process there. I'm pretty happy with SL 6.0. +1. Quite some familiar names around this mailing list. As far as I'm concerned, I expected some sort of refugee camp, and I'm the more pleasantly surprised to find it's a four star hotel. Less than 24 hours with SL, and it looks like I'm going to stick with it. I just discovered that the text-based version of Anaconda has been seriously amputated in functionality. But that's probably an upstream decision. If you need the text mode for a remote installation, you can run vnc server and install it with Anaconda. Plus, I wonder why I can't install SL6 on my good old Fujitsu Lifebook with a Pentium M processor, which the installer kernel refuses to work with. Any know workaround for that apart from installing SL 5.x or buying a new laptop? Cheers, Niki
Re: xrdb gone bad. xorg-x11-server-utils-7.1-5.el5_6.1 broken?
Phil Perry wrote: On 13/04/11 15:47, Alec T. Habig wrote: David M. Cooke writes: Several users started complaining today about various X apps, such as xterm and emacs, that no longer look the way they want. It looks like the resources they set in their .Xresources files are no longer set. Same in EL6. The changelog for this package says: * Wed Mar 16 2011 Adam Jacksona...@redhat.com 7.4-15.el6_0.1 - cve-2011-0465: Sanitize cpp macro expansion. (CVE 2011-0465) which sounds like something that could indeed break .Xresources parsing. Although in my case, not only old-style X apps lost their fonts marbles, but so did the KDE programs, menus, etc -- which I didn't think used the old-style X fonts at all. After wasting 15 minutes resetting fonts in many different places, X is usable again. I'm sure Murphy's Law says that this bug will be fixed tomorrow and we'll all have to re-reset things :) Thanks for your posts David and Alec. I thought I was losing my marbles when all my fonts went screwy on EL5/KDE so good to know the root cause. One of the posters in the bugzilla entry noted the -nocpp option on xrdb. The following works great: $ xrdb -nocpp -merge .Xresources I've added it to my session startup commands and helped some users do the same.
Re: May be a bug in SL-60-i386-2011-03-03-Everything-DVD1.iso
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Vaclav Mocek little@email.cz wrote: On 04/14/2011 05:24 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: You need to go *straight* to VMWare. Do not stop at Xen, do not stop at KVM. Go right to commercial grade support, and install an ESX server if you can. Why should the better choice be ESX than KVM for somebody who is familiar with Linux? If you need to ask then you have not (seriously) used ESX(i) ;-) The differences are (still) so big, it's not even funny. -- natxo
intel graphics scrolling messes up page
I get a similar problem as shown in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522763 the screenshot Display of firefox when scrolling window with mouse In firefox it seems to happen only when smooth scrolling is enabled, and I am not using compiz. it generally happens when it is partly covered. i also had this problem in the help viewer. xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.7-26.el6_0.3(x86_64) xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-7.el6(x86_64) kernel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6(x86_64) If i use compiz i do not have this problem Any suggestions Thanks Jon
Re: intel graphics scrolling messes up page
On 04/14/2011 03:59 PM, Jon B wrote: I get a similar problem as shown in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522763 the screenshot Display of firefox when scrolling window with mouse In firefox it seems to happen only when smooth scrolling is enabled, and I am not using compiz. it generally happens when it is partly covered. i also had this problem in the help viewer. xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.7-26.el6_0.3(x86_64) xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-7.el6(x86_64) kernel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6(x86_64) If i use compiz i do not have this problem Any suggestions Thanks Jon I can confirm it, sometimes I observe similar behaviour. $lspci ... 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) ... Difficult to reproduce. Vaclav M.
Re: May be a bug in SL-60-i386-2011-03-03-Everything-DVD1.iso
On 04/14/2011 03:08 PM, Natxo Asenjo wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Vaclav Moceklittle@email.cz wrote: On 04/14/2011 05:24 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: You need to go *straight* to VMWare. Do not stop at Xen, do not stop at KVM. Go right to commercial grade support, and install an ESX server if you can. Why should the better choice be ESX than KVM for somebody who is familiar with Linux? If you need to ask then you have not (seriously) used ESX(i) ;-) The differences are (still) so big, it's not even funny. You are right, I have not used ESX yet. I was looking for some comparison ESX versus KVM, but what I found, was mostly outdated. The one of newest is http://blog.delouw.ch/tag/kvm/ and the described drawbacks should not be a huge issue for an average user, not mentioned the fact, that RH is working to improve KVM. Vackav M.
Re: SL vs. RPMForge repo
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote: On 14 April 2011 05:49, Nicolas Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote: Quite some familiar names around this mailing list. Smiles. I just discovered that the text-based version of Anaconda has been seriously amputated in functionality. But that's probably an upstream decision. Correct. Plus, I wonder why I can't install SL6 on my good old Fujitsu Lifebook with a Pentium M processor, which the installer kernel refuses to work with. I believe that processor does not support PAE, so you are out of luck. Again, this is a Red Hat decision. The EL6 32-bit kernel is what was a PAE kernel for EL5. Putting it another way, the EL5 32-bit non-PAE kernel has been dropped for EL6 and so what would known as a PAE kernel has had that descriptor removed. There might be a case for a drop-in replacement kernel that supports non-PAE 32bit systems. So at least a PXE/USB installation works fine, without the need to respin the ISO (which may be too troublesome). Of course, that would also mean we'd have to update that non-PAE kernel as part of that repository. If people have a clear need for this (and there is at least one committed to support this) do speak up. It might be the beginning of something beautiful... -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]
Re: SL vs. RPMForge repo
On 14 April 2011 23:48, Dag Wieers d...@wieers.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote: On 14 April 2011 05:49, Nicolas Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote: Plus, I wonder why I can't install SL6 on my good old Fujitsu Lifebook with a Pentium M processor, which the installer kernel refuses to work with. I believe that processor does not support PAE, so you are out of luck. Again, this is a Red Hat decision. The EL6 32-bit kernel is what was a PAE kernel for EL5. Putting it another way, the EL5 32-bit non-PAE kernel has been dropped for EL6 and so what would known as a PAE kernel has had that descriptor removed. There might be a case for a drop-in replacement kernel that supports non-PAE 32bit systems. So at least a PXE/USB installation works fine, without the need to respin the ISO (which may be too troublesome). Of course, that would also mean we'd have to update that non-PAE kernel as part of that repository. If people have a clear need for this (and there is at least one committed to support this) do speak up. It might be the beginning of something beautiful... You've obviously had similar thoughts just like mine . . . but have developed them that bit further. It really depends upon the need for non-PAE 32-bit kernels for EL6. Alan.
Re: SL vs. RPMForge repo
Alan Bartlett wrote on 04/14/2011 06:55 PM: ... You've obviously had similar thoughts just like mine . . . but have developed them that bit further. It really depends upon the need for non-PAE 32-bit kernels for EL6. My non-PAE-capable IBM T42p Pentium-M laptop is dead ATM from a fan failure, but the possibility of a compatible SL6 release might prompt me to resurrect it. Part of the reason I have not bothered to hack the hardware is the upstream decision to drop support for non-PAE 32-bit systems. As a matter of principle I heartily endorse the idea. There is a lot of functional hardware out there that does not do PAE, but still has life left in it. Phil
Re: May be a bug in SL-60-i386-2011-03-03-Everything-DVD1.iso
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Vaclav Mocek little@email.cz wrote: On 04/14/2011 05:24 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: You need to go *straight* to VMWare. Do not stop at Xen, do not stop at KVM. Go right to commercial grade support, and install an ESX server if you can. Why should the better choice be ESX than KVM for somebody who is familiar with Linux? Seriously, I am building my first server for virtualisation and KVM works out of the box /two days ;-) /. Becasue libvirt was designed by goats who'd been sniffing too many pheromones. Let's just say that they were not paying attention to Eric Raymond's guidelines on open source GUI's (http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html) and leave it at that. Our favorite upstream vendor is usually quite good at writing gui's, having learned a lot of lessons over the years and having strong developers. libvirt is not one of their shining efforts. VMWare, especially its LabManager suite with which I've worked recently, does a much more thorough job. It's not perfect: the update of VMwareTools with kernel updates is hardly perfect, and its interactions with the NetworkManager of SL 6 and RHEL 6 are not good. But I'm not thrilled with NetworkManager in servers or managed environments, either. I've heard good things about KVM performance, but didn't see it in RHEL/CentOS/SL 5.x. I'll be very intersted to see the results of the Debian testing I'm doing in the near future.