Re: {OT} looking for laptop screen replacement

[Alexander Hunt]

Hi Andrew,
Well you hit upon the most common breakage for a laptop, so you are 
not alone (I used to work for HP service and we got those all the time)
If the screen is cracked it's probably had its day. However you could 
see if you can see anything on the screen using a bright light shined 
on it. If you can, then the backlight is broken (not the display 
itself, unless it looks bad around the crackage of course). Also, you 
might want to check and see if opening it up and checking if the cable 
is still attached at both ends., Just replacing the backlight would 
cost less if you can find a supplier for it (although you'd still see 
the crack in the screen when you're trying to work, which could be 
annoying). An easier alternative would be to turn it into a desktop 
computer by attaching an external monitor to it, and have the computer 
display switched over to the external).
Here's a link to the service manual for it, if you decide to go 
delving into the wonderful world of micro-parts (just a joke to try 
cheering you up a bit):
http://tim.id.au/laptops/toshiba/satellite%20l600d%20l640d%20l650d%20pro%20l600d%20l640d%20l650d.pdf 

And I attached the pdf just for sending to you, not the list, so 
you'll get this twice.


Hope something there helps,
Best regards
Alex

On 11-09-14 8:40 PM, Andrew Z wrote:

[sobbing on]
My SL is on apparently long vacation. And was just the wrong time
kids are good. Kids and sturdy laptops are compatible. Fancy, non 
sturdy designed laptop and kids - incompatible.
I have 2 laptops one X yo Dell D620 - can replace any part on the 
cheap - company has tons of them. But it's "kids resistant".
My favorite toy ( wife's present) Toshiba satellite L645D is semi 
compatible - the keyboard is definitely "kids resistant", but %%% 
screen is absolutely not.

Don't know what they did, but it has a crack and is not working at all.
Replacement on ebay and amazon is $80.
http://www.amazon.com/TOSHIBA-SATELLITE-L645D-S4037-SUBSTITUTE-REPLACEMENT/dp/B004A8SIOI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1316054043&sr=1-1 
 



[sobbing off]

Q:
 any better ideas then just suc%% it up and pay $80 ?

Andrew

Re: buildsys-macros rpm

[Garrett Holmstrom]

On 2011-09-14 18:20, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

And unfortunately, it can be confusing as all get-out for building
SRPM's for multiple releases. Subversion, for example, has different
dependencies in "el5" than in "el6", or in "f14" or later, and working
out the logic for selecting the right options for your OS is a bit of
an adventure when unpredictable and non-major-release "%dist" settings
are used.


Thankfully, when you're building with mock or you're building natively 
on nearly anything that isn't el < 6, you can use other macros that are 
designed to solve precisely this problem.


%if 0%{?el5}
# SL 5-specific dependency info
%endif

%if 0%{?rhel} >= 6 || 0%{?fedora}
# Bits that apply to both SL 6+ and Fedora
%endif

%if 0%{?suse_version} >= 1140
# Info for openSUSE 11.4+
%endif

%if 0%{?mdkversion} || 0%{?mgaversion}
# (and so forth)
%endif

--
Garrett Holmstrom

{OT} looking for laptop screen replacement

[Andrew Z]

[sobbing on]
My SL is on apparently long vacation. And was just the wrong time
kids are good. Kids and sturdy laptops are compatible. Fancy, non sturdy
designed laptop and kids - incompatible.
I have 2 laptops one X yo Dell D620 - can replace any part on the cheap -
company has tons of them. But it's "kids resistant".
My favorite toy ( wife's present) Toshiba satellite L645D is semi compatible
- the keyboard is definitely "kids resistant", but %%% screen is absolutely
not.
Don't know what they did, but it has a crack and is not working at all.
Replacement on ebay and amazon is $80.
http://www.amazon.com/TOSHIBA-SATELLITE-L645D-S4037-SUBSTITUTE-REPLACEMENT/dp/B004A8SIOI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1316054043&sr=1-1

[sobbing off]

Q:
 any better ideas then just suc%% it up and pay $80 ?

Andrew

sl-release replaces custom sl.repo file

[Walkenhorst, Daryl]

I've noticed that in SL6, the sl-release package has a habit of replacing our 
custom sl.repo file (saving the original as .rpmsave), yet the 
yum-conf-sl-other package saves the new file as a .rpmnew file.

I'd much rather our custom sl.repo not be randomly overwritten whenever 
sl-release is updated, is there an easy workaround that won't end up creating 
duplicate repos?

The following thread/discussion on scientificlinuxforum.org also suggests this 
might be a bug:
http://scientificlinuxforum.org/index.php?showtopic=762




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Re: Bluetooth tutorials, websites, ?

[Nico Kadel-Garcia]

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Keith Lofstrom  wrote:
> I am experimenting with bluetooth with SL5.4 (yes, I know it is
> not the latest) and having trouble locating relevant tutorials,
> documentation, etc. on the web.  Most linux bluetooth info is
> missing, out of date, KDE/debian/ubuntu centric, etc.

Well, yes, especially on 5.4. If you can free up a separate box to
test on and install 6.1, do so. There doesn't seem to be a change in
the base "bluez" components between SL 5.4 and 5.7:  There's a big
jump between bluez-3.7 for SL 5.x, and bluez-4.66 for SL 6.1.

You might try backporting the SRPM manually. But a fast test shows
that it has some modified package requirements from SL 5, and the
source autoconf says that it requires glib-2.14, which is not built
into SL 5. This sort of ongoing update requirement is *inevitable*
with heavily feature and hardware changing software like Bluetooth:
it's one of the reasons Bluetooth is not an ideal requirement for a
"server" class OS, such as SL or the upstream vendor's "enterprise"
products, especially when you're unalbe to use the current release.

SL 6.0 has been out for over six months, and the upsream vendor's 6.0
has been out for over 10 months. It's time to consider updating if you
want tools like bluetooth to work with the latest hardware.

> Bluetooth may "just work" if the hardware is right.  But a list
> of currently available and linux compatable USB bluetooth dongles
> is also missing.  For example, the iogear GBU421 I just bought
> has a different USB ID than that claimed to work on one of the
> linux USB device lists.
>
> Any suggestions for RHEL/SL/CentOS 5 linux bluetooth docs,
> tutorials, interpretation of error messages, etc?  When I've
> read the relevant information, I can start asking proper questions.

See above.

>
> Keith
>
> PS: And no, I'm not going to upgrade SL until I have a month
> to do so.  I use too many fragile apps that are broken by
> upgrades and dependency conflicts, and fixing them takes time.
> If I wanted to spend my life upgrading distros instead of
> doing something productive, I would run Fedora.

Ouch.. The update to 5.6 is pretty painless and brought a *lot* of
fixes, with our favorite upstream vendor's releases, If you really
can't do even that, consider updating the "bluez-*" components from
the ""5x" or "5rolling" repositories.

What are your worst upgrade fears? Maybe we can help!

Re: buildsys-macros rpm

[Nico Kadel-Garcia]

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Garrett Holmstrom
 wrote:
> On 2011-09-13 12:26, Connie Sieh wrote:
>>
>> Note that %dist is defined in this rpm as
>>
>> %dist .el5
>>
>> which is commonly not what TUV uses for security errata.
>>
>> An example of this is
>>
>> xulrunner-1.9.2.22-1.el5_7.i386.rpm
>>
>> In the above case "%dist .el5_7" was needed.
>
> For those who are curious/confused, when upstream build a package against
> the master branch for a major release (i.e. the one that will be the next
> point release) the %dist tag is ".el5".  When they build a package from a
> maintenance branch for a given point release (e.g. for security errata) the
> %dist tag is instead ".el5_X", where X is a non-negative integer, because it
> builds against an older package set than the master branch.

And unfortunately, it can be confusing as all get-out for building
SRPM's for multiple releases. Subversion, for example, has different
dependencies in "el5" than in "el6", or in "f14" or later, and working
out the logic for selecting the right options for your OS is a bit of
an adventure when unpredictable and non-major-release "%dist" settings
are used.

You can check what it's set to at the moment by typing "rpm --showrc |
grep dist" in your working environment, which can be very helpful.

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] SL6.1 is missing various bug fix and fasttrack updates?

[Vladimir Mosgalin]

Hi Pat Riehecky!

 On 2011.09.14 at 15:02:53 -0500, Pat Riehecky wrote next:

> Anyway, the mirrors should pick everything up on their next sync,
> provided what we've got posted now is actually accurate.
> 
> Can I have you give
> ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6x/archive/debuginfo/
> a quick look over for the debuginfo packages you want.  If they are
> posted there, everyone who mirrors SL 6 should pick them up at their
> next update.  If not, then they are hiding out in a directory I
> haven't found yet and should get posted.

Out of 59 fresh packages due to update on my system - when completely
enabling fastbugs repo - all have correct debuginfos in this directory.

-- 

Vladimir

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] SL6.1 is missing various bug fix and fasttrack updates?

[Pat Riehecky]

On 09/14/2011 02:24 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote:

Hi Pat Riehecky!

  On 2011.09.14 at 13:42:43 -0500, Pat Riehecky wrote next:


Sorry about that, the fastbugs process got modified when 6.1 came
out and it hadn't been fully restored to working.  The delay was
mostly because of human (ie ME!) error.

If you do a  yum clean all  the packages you are looking for should
be in fastbugs for 6.1 and 6.x now.  Typically we release
bugfix/enhancement updates on a weekly basis as occasionally the
packages don't build easily and its nice to have a bit of flexible
time in getting them released.  When security errata doesn't build
it gets full attention, when an enhancement doesn't build we care
and work hard at it, but its just not the same.

Let me know if you notice anything still missing.


Thanks, that was very fast!
Yes, I do see all the packages in fastbugs. I'll wait a bit before
installing till debuginfo packages will become available, since I don't
want to make glibc debuginfo non-compatible (they will eventually,
right? I understand that glibc and some other debuginfos are large and
mirrors take time to catch up with these).

I must say, I'm so pleasantly surprised with how fast updates appear in
SL and that debuginfo is nearly always (aside from few mirror lag
issues) up to date, it's really breath of fresh air after Centos that
I've been using for years before, to always be able to analyze with
perf&  oprofile because all the debuginfo is actually there and gets
updates together with packages. Please keep up the good work, SL is
definitely the best distro for many of my tasks.




I'm glad the delay wasn't overly inconvenient, some of this stuff should 
have been out weeks ago


Anyway, the mirrors should pick everything up on their next sync, 
provided what we've got posted now is actually accurate.


Can I have you give 
ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6x/archive/debuginfo/  a 
quick look over for the debuginfo packages you want.  If they are posted 
there, everyone who mirrors SL 6 should pick them up at their next 
update.  If not, then they are hiding out in a directory I haven't found 
yet and should get posted.


And I can honestly say that, with a community as wonderful as this, its 
a pleasure to be a part!


--
Pat Riehecky
Scientific Linux Developer

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] SL6.1 is missing various bug fix and fasttrack updates?

[Vladimir Mosgalin]

Hi Pat Riehecky!

 On 2011.09.14 at 13:42:43 -0500, Pat Riehecky wrote next:

> Sorry about that, the fastbugs process got modified when 6.1 came
> out and it hadn't been fully restored to working.  The delay was
> mostly because of human (ie ME!) error.
> 
> If you do a  yum clean all  the packages you are looking for should
> be in fastbugs for 6.1 and 6.x now.  Typically we release
> bugfix/enhancement updates on a weekly basis as occasionally the
> packages don't build easily and its nice to have a bit of flexible
> time in getting them released.  When security errata doesn't build
> it gets full attention, when an enhancement doesn't build we care
> and work hard at it, but its just not the same.
> 
> Let me know if you notice anything still missing.
> 

Thanks, that was very fast!
Yes, I do see all the packages in fastbugs. I'll wait a bit before
installing till debuginfo packages will become available, since I don't
want to make glibc debuginfo non-compatible (they will eventually,
right? I understand that glibc and some other debuginfos are large and
mirrors take time to catch up with these).

I must say, I'm so pleasantly surprised with how fast updates appear in
SL and that debuginfo is nearly always (aside from few mirror lag
issues) up to date, it's really breath of fresh air after Centos that
I've been using for years before, to always be able to analyze with
perf & oprofile because all the debuginfo is actually there and gets
updates together with packages. Please keep up the good work, SL is
definitely the best distro for many of my tasks.


-- 

Vladimir

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] SL6.1 is missing various bug fix and fasttrack updates?

[Pat Riehecky]

On 09/14/2011 12:25 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote:

Hello everybody.

I wonder why SL6 (with installed yum-conf-sl6x and yum-conf-sl-other and
turned on fastbugs) is missing lots of various updates from TUV.

For example, bug fix updates to curl, glibc, binutils, portreserve,
xmlrpc-c
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1284.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1255.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1179.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1186.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1285.html

Glibc update is almost 1 month old, for example; corresponding SRPMS of
glibc, binutils and others are freely available, however no SL repos
include these.

There is also whole bunch of fasttrack updates which, as I thought, were
supposed to appear in fastbugs SL6 repo but they don't. SRPMS for (at
least most) of these are avaliable too.
 From the list on
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel-server-fastrack-6-errata.html?by=date
I can see lots of packages like
cpufrequtils
libcgroup
powertop
tmpwatch
smartmontools
vte
newt
qt
setup
doxygen
sudo
tuned
mingetty
DeviceKit-power
attr
perl-Net-DNS
qt3
file

which aren't in SL repos. (there are maybe some others, too)


My question is very simple, if this situation is under control and these
updates will appear in SL at some point, or something broke and they
were missed out and thus won't be rebuilt until someone will fix
building process or somethings. I can see that some of updates from
"bug fix" category and fasttrack updates get rebuilt for SL - for
example "bug fix" for selinux-policy appeared in repos, but older "bug
fix" glibc update didn't.

Thanks!



Sorry about that, the fastbugs process got modified when 6.1 came out 
and it hadn't been fully restored to working.  The delay was mostly 
because of human (ie ME!) error.


If you do a  yum clean all  the packages you are looking for should be 
in fastbugs for 6.1 and 6.x now.  Typically we release 
bugfix/enhancement updates on a weekly basis as occasionally the 
packages don't build easily and its nice to have a bit of flexible time 
in getting them released.  When security errata doesn't build it gets 
full attention, when an enhancement doesn't build we care and work hard 
at it, but its just not the same.


Let me know if you notice anything still missing.

--
Pat Riehecky
Scientific Linux Developer

SL6.1 is missing various bug fix and fasttrack updates?

[Vladimir Mosgalin]

Hello everybody.

I wonder why SL6 (with installed yum-conf-sl6x and yum-conf-sl-other and
turned on fastbugs) is missing lots of various updates from TUV.

For example, bug fix updates to curl, glibc, binutils, portreserve,
xmlrpc-c
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1284.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1255.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1179.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1186.html
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1285.html

Glibc update is almost 1 month old, for example; corresponding SRPMS of
glibc, binutils and others are freely available, however no SL repos
include these.

There is also whole bunch of fasttrack updates which, as I thought, were
supposed to appear in fastbugs SL6 repo but they don't. SRPMS for (at
least most) of these are avaliable too.
>From the list on
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel-server-fastrack-6-errata.html?by=date
I can see lots of packages like
cpufrequtils
libcgroup
powertop
tmpwatch
smartmontools
vte
newt
qt
setup
doxygen
sudo
tuned
mingetty
DeviceKit-power
attr
perl-Net-DNS
qt3
file

which aren't in SL repos. (there are maybe some others, too)


My question is very simple, if this situation is under control and these
updates will appear in SL at some point, or something broke and they
were missed out and thus won't be rebuilt until someone will fix
building process or somethings. I can see that some of updates from
"bug fix" category and fasttrack updates get rebuilt for SL - for
example "bug fix" for selinux-policy appeared in repos, but older "bug
fix" glibc update didn't.

Thanks!

-- 

Vladimir

Bluetooth tutorials, websites, ?

[Keith Lofstrom]

I am experimenting with bluetooth with SL5.4 (yes, I know it is
not the latest) and having trouble locating relevant tutorials,
documentation, etc. on the web.  Most linux bluetooth info is
missing, out of date, KDE/debian/ubuntu centric, etc.  

Bluetooth may "just work" if the hardware is right.  But a list
of currently available and linux compatable USB bluetooth dongles
is also missing.  For example, the iogear GBU421 I just bought
has a different USB ID than that claimed to work on one of the
linux USB device lists.

Any suggestions for RHEL/SL/CentOS 5 linux bluetooth docs,
tutorials, interpretation of error messages, etc?  When I've
read the relevant information, I can start asking proper questions.

Keith

PS: And no, I'm not going to upgrade SL until I have a month
to do so.  I use too many fragile apps that are broken by
upgrades and dependency conflicts, and fixing them takes time. 
If I wanted to spend my life upgrading distros instead of
doing something productive, I would run Fedora.

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Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs

Re: buildsys-macros rpm

[Garrett Holmstrom]

On 2011-09-13 12:26, Connie Sieh wrote:

Note that %dist is defined in this rpm as

%dist .el5

which is commonly not what TUV uses for security errata.

An example of this is

xulrunner-1.9.2.22-1.el5_7.i386.rpm

In the above case "%dist .el5_7" was needed.


For those who are curious/confused, when upstream build a package 
against the master branch for a major release (i.e. the one that will be 
the next point release) the %dist tag is ".el5".  When they build a 
package from a maintenance branch for a given point release (e.g. for 
security errata) the %dist tag is instead ".el5_X", where X is a 
non-negative integer, because it builds against an older package set 
than the master branch.


--
Garrett Holmstrom

Re: Looking for (web) searchable packages list

[g]

On 09/14/2011 11:11 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Is there any packages.scientificlinux.org or something where I can
> search for packages and its version inside the different releases? I'm
> knowing this from packages.debian.org and it was always very helpful.
---

using "google advanced search" set for: english, linux, 100 hits per page.;

http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&output=linux&restrict=linux&num=100

enter in line;

  all these words:

package name

enter in line;

  Search within a site or domain:

http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/


google will respond with locations for package.


*note* if you do not have a google account, you may have to create one
to eliminate 'quick search'.


hth.
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Scientific Linux 5.7 Release i386/x86_64 is now available

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Re: Looking for (web) searchable packages list

[Nico Kadel-Garcia]

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Frank Lanitz  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Is there any packages.scientificlinux.org or something where I can
> search for packages and its version inside the different releases? I'm
> knowing this from packages.debian.org and it was always very helpful.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Frank
>

http://rpm.pbone.net is really your friend for this, at least in a
general way. Check out the "advanced" options, and the pay attention
to the URL's it points to see if it's from an official repo or not.

Re: xfce - panel animation

[Andrew Z]

Jos, thank you for reply .
I'm exactly after that fancy animation. 
It appears there is AVN for this https://launchpad.net/awns 
Quick search for rpm did reveal somee fedora 15 file on rpbone. Bit I'm yet to 
try it. If it works with xfce ( it seems it did work with xfce 4.5) and compiz, 
that would be one hack of the environment.
Andrew 
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Looking for (web) searchable packages list

[Frank Lanitz]

Hi folks,

Is there any packages.scientificlinux.org or something where I can
search for packages and its version inside the different releases? I'm
knowing this from packages.debian.org and it was always very helpful.

Thanks in advance,
Frank