Re: Scientific Linux "SL 5.9" for x86_64 RC2 is now available for testing

2013-02-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Connie Sieh  wrote:
> We will release this RC2 as released on Feb 5, 2013 unless we hear
> about a important issue.

I'd noticed it showing up in the mirrors. Looks good, I've been
testing some of the more interesting published components and am quite
happy with it. It is *definitely* time for most of us to be using SL
6.x. for stability and compatibility with modern free or open source
components.

In fact, I've got some tweaked configurations for the "mock" software
builder that are suitable for SL releases. Any suggestions on the best
way to get them into the "contrib" packages, as "mock-sl" to augment
the CentOS based configurations normally built into "mock"?


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Serge A. Salamanka
On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the other day,
> noticed that it never indicated complete? Yesterday I began to
> have odd problems and after rebooting the server, it wouldn't,
> it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've installed
> another hard drive and transferred file to that, now unless
> someone can tell me a better way all I know is to re-install and
> start over. That server has been running for a year or more
> without a problem, usually it's just there, only shut down in a
> power outage and then always restarted without a problem..
> 
>   
> box7   Scientific Linux 6.3

I'm using SL5.8
After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with kernel panic (can't find 
root).


-- 
Best regards,
Serge A. Salamanka
e-mail: salama...@newman.bas-net.by
skype: serge.salamanka
National Grid Infrastructure for Scientific Research
Minsk, Belarus


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 02/04/2013 08:45 AM, Serge A. Salamanka wrote:

On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

 I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the other day,
 noticed that it never indicated complete? Yesterday I began to
 have odd problems and after rebooting the server, it wouldn't,
 it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've installed
 another hard drive and transferred file to that, now unless
 someone can tell me a better way all I know is to re-install and
 start over. That server has been running for a year or more
 without a problem, usually it's just there, only shut down in a
 power outage and then always restarted without a problem..


 box7   Scientific Linux 6.3

I'm using SL5.8
After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with kernel panic (can't find
root).




   It turned out my kernel panic was self inflicted. Apparently I
   shut down before an update finished. To add to the confusion the
   opening screen does not show the alternate kernels you may boot
   to. Once I figured that out I was able to boot to an earlier
   version and remove and replace the damaged kernel, all is well now.

   I did notice that the yum install of the kernel seemed to take
   longer than usual but it did complete eventually?

   Bob





--

http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD

box7   Scientific Linux 6.3


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Oleg Sadov
В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 16:45 +0300, Serge A. Salamanka пишет:
> On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> > I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the other day,
> > noticed that it never indicated complete? Yesterday I began to
> > have odd problems and after rebooting the server, it wouldn't,
> > it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've installed
> > another hard drive and transferred file to that, now unless
> > someone can tell me a better way all I know is to re-install and
> > start over. That server has been running for a year or more
> > without a problem, usually it's just there, only shut down in a
> > power outage and then always restarted without a problem..
> > 
> >   
> > box7   Scientific Linux 6.3
> 
> I'm using SL5.8
> After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with kernel panic (can't 
> find 
> root).

It's may be consequence of file system damaging or grub
misconfiguration.

But we found & fix some NULL-pointer references in sound subsystem of
last 5x kernel updates:

http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1302&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=348


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Jamie Duncan
That link gives links to "bug-fixed" packages, but the Bugzilla is still
open. Who generated the patches?


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:

> В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 16:45 +0300, Serge A. Salamanka пишет:
> > On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> > > I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the other day,
> > > noticed that it never indicated complete? Yesterday I began to
> > > have odd problems and after rebooting the server, it wouldn't,
> > > it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've installed
> > > another hard drive and transferred file to that, now unless
> > > someone can tell me a better way all I know is to re-install
> and
> > > start over. That server has been running for a year or more
> > > without a problem, usually it's just there, only shut down in a
> > > power outage and then always restarted without a problem..
> > >
> > >
> > > box7   Scientific Linux 6.3
> >
> > I'm using SL5.8
> > After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with kernel panic
> (can't find
> > root).
>
> It's may be consequence of file system damaging or grub
> misconfiguration.
>
> But we found & fix some NULL-pointer references in sound subsystem of
> last 5x kernel updates:
>
>
> http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1302&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=348
>



-- 
Thanks,

Jamie Duncan
@jamieeduncan


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Oleg Sadov
That's our patch around modprobe snd-hda-intel kernel crashing. It
placed to RH BugZilla, but is not approved by Red Hat at this time.

В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 10:46 -0500, Jamie Duncan пишет:
> That link gives links to "bug-fixed" packages, but the Bugzilla is
> still open. Who generated the patches?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:
> В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 16:45 +0300, Serge A. Salamanka пишет:
> > On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
> wrote:
> > > I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the
> other day,
> > > noticed that it never indicated complete?
> Yesterday I began to
> > > have odd problems and after rebooting the server,
> it wouldn't,
> > > it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've
> installed
> > > another hard drive and transferred file to that,
> now unless
> > > someone can tell me a better way all I know is to
> re-install and
> > > start over. That server has been running for a
> year or more
> > > without a problem, usually it's just there, only
> shut down in a
> > > power outage and then always restarted without a
> problem..
> > >
> > >
> > > box7   Scientific Linux 6.3
> >
> > I'm using SL5.8
> > After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with
> kernel panic (can't find
> > root).
> 
> 
> It's may be consequence of file system damaging or grub
> misconfiguration.
> 
> But we found & fix some NULL-pointer references in sound
> subsystem of
> last 5x kernel updates:
> 
> 
> http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1302&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=348
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jamie Duncan
> @jamieeduncan
> 
> 


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Jamie Duncan
I just wasn't aware that SL split that way.

RH hasn't accepted it, which (I'm assuming) means it hasn't been accepted
upstream, either.

Are these maintained indefinitely if they are rejected for some reason?


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:

> That's our patch around modprobe snd-hda-intel kernel crashing. It
> placed to RH BugZilla, but is not approved by Red Hat at this time.
>
> В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 10:46 -0500, Jamie Duncan пишет:
> > That link gives links to "bug-fixed" packages, but the Bugzilla is
> > still open. Who generated the patches?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:
> > В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 16:45 +0300, Serge A. Salamanka пишет:
> > > On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
> > wrote:
> > > > I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the
> > other day,
> > > > noticed that it never indicated complete?
> > Yesterday I began to
> > > > have odd problems and after rebooting the server,
> > it wouldn't,
> > > > it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've
> > installed
> > > > another hard drive and transferred file to that,
> > now unless
> > > > someone can tell me a better way all I know is to
> > re-install and
> > > > start over. That server has been running for a
> > year or more
> > > > without a problem, usually it's just there, only
> > shut down in a
> > > > power outage and then always restarted without a
> > problem..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > box7   Scientific Linux 6.3
> > >
> > > I'm using SL5.8
> > > After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with
> > kernel panic (can't find
> > > root).
> >
> >
> > It's may be consequence of file system damaging or grub
> > misconfiguration.
> >
> > But we found & fix some NULL-pointer references in sound
> > subsystem of
> > last 5x kernel updates:
> >
> >
> http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1302&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=348
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jamie Duncan
> > @jamieeduncan
> >
> >
>



-- 
Thanks,

Jamie Duncan
@jamieeduncan


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Matthias Schroeder

On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Jamie Duncan  wrote:

> I just wasn't aware that SL split that way. 

Please check the URL that Oleg provided in his first post. It points to a 
repository in russia. I don't think this is a SL endorsed patch.

Matthias

> 
> RH hasn't accepted it, which (I'm assuming) means it hasn't been accepted 
> upstream, either.
> 
> Are these maintained indefinitely if they are rejected for some reason?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:
> That's our patch around modprobe snd-hda-intel kernel crashing. It
> placed to RH BugZilla, but is not approved by Red Hat at this time.
> 
> В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 10:46 -0500, Jamie Duncan пишет:
> > That link gives links to "bug-fixed" packages, but the Bugzilla is
> > still open. Who generated the patches?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:
> > В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 16:45 +0300, Serge A. Salamanka пишет:
> > > On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
> > wrote:
> > > > I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the
> > other day,
> > > > noticed that it never indicated complete?
> > Yesterday I began to
> > > > have odd problems and after rebooting the server,
> > it wouldn't,
> > > > it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've
> > installed
> > > > another hard drive and transferred file to that,
> > now unless
> > > > someone can tell me a better way all I know is to
> > re-install and
> > > > start over. That server has been running for a
> > year or more
> > > > without a problem, usually it's just there, only
> > shut down in a
> > > > power outage and then always restarted without a
> > problem..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > box7   Scientific Linux 6.3
> > >
> > > I'm using SL5.8
> > > After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with
> > kernel panic (can't find
> > > root).
> >
> >
> > It's may be consequence of file system damaging or grub
> > misconfiguration.
> >
> > But we found & fix some NULL-pointer references in sound
> > subsystem of
> > last 5x kernel updates:
> >
> > 
> > http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1302&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=348
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jamie Duncan
> > @jamieeduncan
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jamie Duncan
> @jamieeduncan
> 



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Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Jamie Duncan
Ah. hadn't noticed that.


Does SL submit directly to upstream projects, or exclusively to RH?


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Matthias Schroeder <
matthias.schro...@cern.ch> wrote:

>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Jamie Duncan  wrote:
>
> I just wasn't aware that SL split that way.
>
>
> Please check the URL that Oleg provided in his first post. It points to a
> repository in russia. I don't think this is a SL endorsed patch.
>
> Matthias
>
>
> RH hasn't accepted it, which (I'm assuming) means it hasn't been accepted
> upstream, either.
>
> Are these maintained indefinitely if they are rejected for some reason?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:
>
>> That's our patch around modprobe snd-hda-intel kernel crashing. It
>> placed to RH BugZilla, but is not approved by Red Hat at this time.
>>
>> В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 10:46 -0500, Jamie Duncan пишет:
>> > That link gives links to "bug-fixed" packages, but the Bugzilla is
>> > still open. Who generated the patches?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:
>> > В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 16:45 +0300, Serge A. Salamanka пишет:
>> > > On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
>> > wrote:
>> > > > I did a yum update via ssh on an SL6 server the
>> > other day,
>> > > > noticed that it never indicated complete?
>> > Yesterday I began to
>> > > > have odd problems and after rebooting the server,
>> > it wouldn't,
>> > > > it complains of a kernel panic. Using SL-Live I've
>> > installed
>> > > > another hard drive and transferred file to that,
>> > now unless
>> > > > someone can tell me a better way all I know is to
>> > re-install and
>> > > > start over. That server has been running for a
>> > year or more
>> > > > without a problem, usually it's just there, only
>> > shut down in a
>> > > > power outage and then always restarted without a
>> > problem..
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > box7   Scientific Linux 6.3
>> > >
>> > > I'm using SL5.8
>> > > After a short shutdown today  the machine came up with
>> > kernel panic (can't find
>> > > root).
>> >
>> >
>> > It's may be consequence of file system damaging or grub
>> > misconfiguration.
>> >
>> > But we found & fix some NULL-pointer references in sound
>> > subsystem of
>> > last 5x kernel updates:
>> >
>> >
>> http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1302&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=348
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Jamie Duncan
>> > @jamieeduncan
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Jamie Duncan
> @jamieeduncan
>
>
>


-- 
Thanks,

Jamie Duncan
@jamieeduncan


Re: Update > kernel panic -

2013-02-04 Thread Oleg Sadov
Exactly! It's not SL split -- currently it's just a test package for
concrete problem fix from Linux Ink dev. team reported to RH BZ and
placed to testing repository of Scientific Linux Cyrillic Edition
project for solution checking by our users with a such problem -- not
more, not less.

В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 12:01 -0500, Jamie Duncan пишет:
> Ah. hadn't noticed that.
> 
> 
> 
> Does SL submit directly to upstream projects, or exclusively to RH?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Matthias Schroeder
>  wrote:
> 
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Jamie Duncan
>  wrote:
> 
> > I just wasn't aware that SL split that way. 
> 
> 
> Please check the URL that Oleg provided in his first post. It
> points to a repository in russia. I don't think this is a SL
> endorsed patch.
> 
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > RH hasn't accepted it, which (I'm assuming) means it hasn't
> > been accepted upstream, either.
> > 
> > 
> > Are these maintained indefinitely if they are rejected for
> > some reason?
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Oleg Sadov
> >  wrote:
> > That's our patch around modprobe snd-hda-intel
> > kernel crashing. It
> > placed to RH BugZilla, but is not approved by Red
> > Hat at this time.
> > 
> > В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 10:46 -0500, Jamie Duncan пишет:
> > > That link gives links to "bug-fixed" packages, but
> > the Bugzilla is
> > > still open. Who generated the patches?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Oleg Sadov
> >  wrote:
> > > В Пнд, 04/02/2013 в 16:45 +0300, Serge A.
> > Salamanka пишет:
> > > > On 2 февраля 2013 15:50:17 Bob Goodwin -
> > Zuni, Virginia, USA
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I did a yum update via ssh on
> > an SL6 server the
> > > other day,
> > > > > noticed that it never
> > indicated complete?
> > > Yesterday I began to
> > > > > have odd problems and after
> > rebooting the server,
> > > it wouldn't,
> > > > > it complains of a kernel
> > panic. Using SL-Live I've
> > > installed
> > > > > another hard drive and
> > transferred file to that,
> > > now unless
> > > > > someone can tell me a better
> > way all I know is to
> > > re-install and
> > > > > start over. That server has
> > been running for a
> > > year or more
> > > > > without a problem, usually
> > it's just there, only
> > > shut down in a
> > > > > power outage and then always
> > restarted without a
> > > problem..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > box7   Scientific Linux 6.3
> > > >
> > > > I'm using SL5.8
> > > > After a short shutdown today  the
> > machine came up with
> > > kernel panic (can't find
> > > > root).
> > >
> > >
> > > It's may be consequence of file system
> > damaging or grub
> > > misconfiguration.
> > >
> > > But we found & fix some NULL-pointer
> > references in sound
> > > subsystem of
> > > last 5x kernel updates:
> > >
> > >
> > 
> http://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1302&L=scientific-linux-devel&T=0&P=348
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jamie Duncan
> > > @jamieeduncan
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jamie Duncan
> > @jamieeduncan
> 

lynx browser in SL6.3

2013-02-04 Thread Stephen Isard
Is anybody else out there trying to use lynx in SL6.3?  When I bring it 
up, the text for url links comes up as yellow on a white background, and 
is pretty much invisible.  This wasn't the case in SL5.5.  I know how to 
fix the problem for my own use, but lynx shouldn't come up unusable by 
default.  Before I try reporting it as a bug to the packagers, I want to 
be sure it happens to other people too, and isn't due to some 
idiosyncracy of my own setup.  Anyone?


Stephen Isard


Re: lynx browser in SL6.3

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Robert Marino
Change your terminal settings.The background color is the default background color of your terminal.It sucks if you are on a default white background xterm but works well if you are on a black background terminal.that you are experiencing is a software color  philosophy difference. I personally hate white backgrounds because they hurt my eyes over time but the default color coded scheme for the terminal is impossible to read with a black background. In addition every admin I've ever worked with and the hundreds of people I've talked with in user groups who don't run X11 on their servers hate it too. Do what every one else does change it to your liking and deploy the changes to all if your hosts.-- Sent from my HP Pre3On Feb 4, 2013 3:18 PM, Stephen Isard <7p03xy...@sneakemail.com> wrote: Is anybody else out there trying to use lynx in SL6.3?  When I bring it 
up, the text for url links comes up as yellow on a white background, and 
is pretty much invisible.  This wasn't the case in SL5.5.  I know how to 
fix the problem for my own use, but lynx shouldn't come up unusable by 
default.  Before I try reporting it as a bug to the packagers, I want to 
be sure it happens to other people too, and isn't due to some 
idiosyncracy of my own setup.  Anyone?

Stephen Isard

Re: lynx browser in SL6.3

2013-02-04 Thread zxq9

On 02/05/2013 01:05 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:

On Feb 4, 2013 3:18 PM, Stephen Isard <7p03xy...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

Is anybody else out there trying to use lynx in SL6.3? When I bring it
up, the text for url links comes up as yellow on a white background, and
is pretty much invisible. This wasn't the case in SL5.5. I know how to
fix the problem for my own use, but lynx shouldn't come up unusable by
default. Before I try reporting it as a bug to the packagers, I want to
be sure it happens to other people too, and isn't due to some
idiosyncracy of my own setup. Anyone?


Change your terminal settings.
The background color is the default background color of your terminal.

It sucks if you are on a default white background xterm but works well
if you are on a black background terminal.
that you are experiencing is a software color philosophy difference. I
personally hate white backgrounds because they hurt my eyes over time
but the default color coded scheme for the terminal is impossible to
read with a black background. In addition every admin I've ever worked
with and the hundreds of people I've talked with in user groups who
don't run X11 on their servers hate it too. Do what every one else does
change it to your liking and deploy the changes to all if your hosts.


The default Lynx color scheme is designed for a dark background. Since 
at least the mid 90's people have been complaining about that on the 
Lynx dev list. Those users are invariably users of an X-based window 
manager that has a windowed terminal program that defaults to a light 
background.


This idea has always been rejected. Making Lynx friendly to terminal 
emulators at the expense of breaking Lynx in its primary use case 
(runlevels 1-3) is unacceptable. In particular, system administrators 
trying to get X (or anything else) back up need Lynx to work correctly 
on a dark background, because that's all they've got to work with in 
many cases.


Setting the X terminal emulators to actually emulate the way real 
terminals work, on the other hand, sounds like a good idea (to me). I 
don't know anyone who leaves terminal programs with the default light 
background scheme, but maybe some do. Anyway, that can be considered a 
distro-level issue since a distro could decide to set their own defaults 
for Gnome Terminal and Kterm instead of just going along with the 
embedded X aversion to dark backgrounds. (In the early 80's "dark" meant 
"old fashioned", so it wasn't politically acceptable within that 
particular dev tribe. Today I don't think anyone cares.)