Re: liveCD booting into AMD A8-3870 processor

2012-05-29 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:08 PM, zxq9 z...@zxq9.com wrote:
 On 05/25/2012 11:56 AM, Phong X Nguyen wrote:

 Can you use DKMS to automate driver building on kernel update?

 I haven't messed with it myself, but it certainly should work fine if you
 just want to keep the same version of Catalyst around.

 Since the AMD driver release updates nearly as often as the Kernel itself,
 I've been building new fglrx rpms with the latest driver against each new
 kernel as they come out and keeping them in our repo. Some of the driver
 updates bring significant performance imrovements that actually matter to
 us, so we try not to miss any.

 Very true. Both the ATI driver and the kernel get updated fairly
 frequently (about once a month).

 I haven't found a way to completely automate away keeping track of the new
 AMD releases yet, though, so keeping fglrx rpms up to date is a lot like
 packaging a high-frequency project for a distro (as in, treating AMD
 Catalyst essentially the same way you would an upstream project).

 Anyway, DKMS is simple enough to set up that feeding it new Catalyst
 releases as they come out shouldn't be too difficult. (Well, from my
 understanding anyway. Again, I haven't done this myself yet, though I might
 give it a shot if I can get some time to play with it -- though even if any
 part of it is difficult the situation should be routine enough that wrapping
 any needed re-configuration process in a script should be trivial.)

 The kernel module HowTo article has a section for DKMS :

 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BuildingKernelModules

 I have not tried it myself since I originally wrote it (because kmods
 became my primary method of module building) but I believe it still
 works.

 Akemi

Thanks to all. Kindly check the following - there AMD admits there
shortcomings with linux support of APU.
 
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2180336/amd-admits-improving-linux-opencl-support



liveCD booting into AMD A8-3870 processor

2012-05-24 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
Hello firends,

I have facing a problem with another distribution - still one fact
actually makes me amazed. Few days back my cousin bought a pc with
configuration- [ AMD APU A8-3870k processor, Corsair Vengeance 4 GB
RAM, ASUS Board].
1) I have tried booting an old linux distro - Ubuntu 9.04 - it boots
into intramfs prompt.

2) Then tried booting SL6.1 LiveCD - it boots normally to the gnome
desktop without a problem.

3) Tried booting Kubuntu 12.04 liveCD - its just turn into a BLACK
Screen of Death.

My question if the problem is related with GPU driver - then why its
not happening with SL6.1?
Thanks in advance for any help.


Re: sl6.1 and sl6x

2011-09-19 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM, jdow j...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Seriously, I'd suggest you do one thing or the other. But I am not going
 to make your decision for you. On one machine (a virtual box machine)
 the transition from 6.0 to 6.1 was painless. (Or let's say no more pain
 than already existed with SELinux.) On the other machine I had an nVidia
 related problem that went away with a kernel update that happened
 automatically. The virtual machine is on 6.x so I catch the upgrades
 when they come. If no serious issues crop up I plan to move the main
 Linux machine up to the next release after it's had a little time
 to settle. But there's just my partner and I and about 20 machines and
 assorted gadgets relying on the Linux machine. The needs for a larger
 production environment will be different. The needs for a single desktop
 user will also be different.

 Assess your needs, determine what activities must be supported, determine
 which OSs best support those activities. Then jump in and be prepared to
 bleed a little. In the best possible world, there will be no blood. So
 you'll feel good about that. If you bleed a little, you were emotionally
 prepared already and have plans to cope, one hopes. So you feel good that
 you coped. If you sit around dithering you feel bad all the way around.
Thank you very much for all the suggestions and for now I will opt for
SL6.1 repo until I get more use to with the new system.
Thanks again.

 {o.o}

 On 2011/09/18 22:16, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tanmoy Chatterjeebum@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM, jdowj...@earthlink.net  wrote:

 On 2011/09/17 01:06, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcianka...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Tanmoy Chatterjeebum@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Connie Siehcs...@fnal.gov
  wrote:

 On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 Is there any difference between Sl6.1 and SL6x repositories? Do I
 need
 to enable only of these two or both?

 sl6x is a symbolic link to the current release.  So at the moment
 sl6x
 points to sl6.1 since sl6.1 is the current release.  When we release
 sl6.2
 then sl6x will point to sl6.2 .

 So you need to pick 1 .  If you pick sl6x you will updated via the
 yum
 cron
 job to the next release when it is released.

 Thanks for the elaboration - so it is a good idea to enable the SL6x
 repositories instead of SL6.1.

 It's a choice, and it's actually a reasonable one to select 6.1. If
 you follow the model of The Upstream Vendor, the 5.0, 5.1, 5.2
 releases are all supposed to upgrade in place, automatically, to get
 all current packages. 6.0 and 6.1 are timestamps for media
 releases, and do not represent a different software repository
 maintained by them. This avoids the amazing pain some of us had to
 deal with for years, back with the original releases back when their
 old 7.0 and 7.2 releases were likely to be incompatible.

 This way works better, by not trying to split support among so many
 sub releases.

 Our friendly maintainers at Scientific Linux, understandably, don't
 quite follow that, but with their common 5x repository, and
 rolling releases, it's pretty close. I really appreciate using that
 one or two repositories, instead of having to mix and match from point
 releases.

 Have really got confused after going through your entire post - so I
 am asking again - is it better to enable SL6X than SL6.1?

 At some point you have to accept responsibility for the choice based on
 your specific needs. If you need a stable system with minimal changes
 use 6.1. If you can accept a little additional risk and want product
 updates as they are folded in then select 6.x.

 Actually using Ubuntu 10.04 - I have found automatic upgradation takes
 place via update process and without any problem ( i.e from 10.04.1 -
 10.04.2 - 10.04.3).
           This method here is different! Now if I enable SL6.1
 repositories only - then when the SL6.2 repo gets available - will it
 be available through the gui SL addons  yum..   or the method is
 different ?

 THANKS FOR ALL THE RESPONSES.
 But as a novice I would again request to shed some light on this part
 of my queries.

 On my machine here I have two very demanding customers, me and my
 partner.
 I kept it on 6.0 until the VM version I have looked stable with 6.1 and
 there were no complaints. So I moved to 6.1 on the firewall machine. It
 promptly tossed its X11 cookies with either nouveau (which I had setup
 and working on 6.0) and nVidia drivers which I tried in frustration. The
 next kernel update fixed the problem. (I was able to work around it
 since
 I mostly administer from command-line anyway. And startx worked if I
 told it to use a display other than the first one.)

 So moving from 6.1 to 6.2 MIGHT cause problems that sticking with 6.1
 and security updates only might avoid. But, then, it might

yum plugin PRESTO

2011-09-19 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
Does the yum-plugin PRESTO works with SL repos?

Thanks in advance for your kind suggestions.


Re: Does SL6 support yum-plugin-security ?

2011-09-19 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:42 AM, jdow j...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Er, ah, um, but, sir, it's already there.

 [jdow ~]$ yum list yum-presto
 Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, refresh-
              : packagekit, security, tmprepo, verify, versionlock
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * elrepo: elrepo.org
  * epel: mirror.steadfast.net
  * rpmforge: apt.sw.be
  * sl: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
  * sl-security: ftp2.scientificlinux.org
 Available Packages
 yum-presto.noarch                         0.6.2-1.el6                  sl

 The plugin is there but it won't work. You have to have a yum
 repository that is presto-enabled.   Creating and maintaining such
 repositories is where more resources and some infra work are required.
I have been late to watch this thread so I have just posted the same
query again.

Extremely sorry for that - Ignore my post.

Thanks for the answers.

 Akemi



Re: sl6.1 and sl6x

2011-09-18 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tanmoy Chatterjee bum@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM, jdow j...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On 2011/09/17 01:06, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcianka...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Tanmoy Chatterjeebum@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Connie Siehcs...@fnal.gov  wrote:

 On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 Is there any difference between Sl6.1 and SL6x repositories? Do I need
 to enable only of these two or both?

 sl6x is a symbolic link to the current release.  So at the moment
 sl6x
 points to sl6.1 since sl6.1 is the current release.  When we release
 sl6.2
 then sl6x will point to sl6.2 .

 So you need to pick 1 .  If you pick sl6x you will updated via the yum
 cron
 job to the next release when it is released.

 Thanks for the elaboration - so it is a good idea to enable the SL6x
 repositories instead of SL6.1.

 It's a choice, and it's actually a reasonable one to select 6.1. If
 you follow the model of The Upstream Vendor, the 5.0, 5.1, 5.2
 releases are all supposed to upgrade in place, automatically, to get
 all current packages. 6.0 and 6.1 are timestamps for media
 releases, and do not represent a different software repository
 maintained by them. This avoids the amazing pain some of us had to
 deal with for years, back with the original releases back when their
 old 7.0 and 7.2 releases were likely to be incompatible.

 This way works better, by not trying to split support among so many
 sub releases.

 Our friendly maintainers at Scientific Linux, understandably, don't
 quite follow that, but with their common 5x repository, and
 rolling releases, it's pretty close. I really appreciate using that
 one or two repositories, instead of having to mix and match from point
 releases.

 Have really got confused after going through your entire post - so I
 am asking again - is it better to enable SL6X than SL6.1?

 At some point you have to accept responsibility for the choice based on
 your specific needs. If you need a stable system with minimal changes
 use 6.1. If you can accept a little additional risk and want product
 updates as they are folded in then select 6.x.
 Actually using Ubuntu 10.04 - I have found automatic upgradation takes
 place via update process and without any problem ( i.e from 10.04.1 -
 10.04.2 - 10.04.3).
           This method here is different! Now if I enable SL6.1
 repositories only - then when the SL6.2 repo gets available - will it
 be available through the gui SL addons  yum..   or the method is
 different ?
THANKS FOR ALL THE RESPONSES.
But as a novice I would again request to shed some light on this part
of my queries.

 On my machine here I have two very demanding customers, me and my partner.
 I kept it on 6.0 until the VM version I have looked stable with 6.1 and
 there were no complaints. So I moved to 6.1 on the firewall machine. It
 promptly tossed its X11 cookies with either nouveau (which I had setup
 and working on 6.0) and nVidia drivers which I tried in frustration. The
 next kernel update fixed the problem. (I was able to work around it since
 I mostly administer from command-line anyway. And startx worked if I
 told it to use a display other than the first one.)

 So moving from 6.1 to 6.2 MIGHT cause problems that sticking with 6.1
 and security updates only might avoid. But, then, it might not. What
 level of risk are you willing to take, very low or very very low? That
 I can go up until that point when it becomes essential to reinstall
 the entire system.
 Then the very reason of installing SL ( instead of Fedora or similar
 distributions with 6 month release cycle) gets diluted.
 is your call to make. You're you and I'm me. We face different demands.
 Thanks.

 {^_^}    Joanne




Re: sl6.1 and sl6x

2011-09-17 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Tanmoy Chatterjee bum@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Connie Sieh cs...@fnal.gov wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 Is there any difference between Sl6.1 and SL6x repositories? Do I need
 to enable only of these two or both?

 sl6x is a symbolic link to the current release.  So at the moment sl6x
 points to sl6.1 since sl6.1 is the current release.  When we release sl6.2
 then sl6x will point to sl6.2 .

 So you need to pick 1 .  If you pick sl6x you will updated via the yum cron
 job to the next release when it is released.
 Thanks for the elaboration - so it is a good idea to enable the SL6x
 repositories instead of SL6.1.

 It's a choice, and it's actually a reasonable one to select 6.1. If
 you follow the model of The Upstream Vendor, the 5.0, 5.1, 5.2
 releases are all supposed to upgrade in place, automatically, to get
 all current packages. 6.0 and 6.1 are timestamps for media
 releases, and do not represent a different software repository
 maintained by them. This avoids the amazing pain some of us had to
 deal with for years, back with the original releases back when their
 old 7.0 and 7.2 releases were likely to be incompatible.

 This way works better, by not trying to split support among so many
 sub releases.

 Our friendly maintainers at Scientific Linux, understandably, don't
 quite follow that, but with their common 5x repository, and
 rolling releases, it's pretty close. I really appreciate using that
 one or two repositories, instead of having to mix and match from point
 releases.
Have really got confused after going through your entire post - so I
am asking again - is it better to enable SL6X than SL6.1?



Re: Does SL6 support yum-plugin-security ?

2011-09-17 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Stefan Lasiewski slasiew...@lbl.gov wrote:
 Greetings,

 Does SL6 support the yum-plugin-security [1] plugin? This would be very
 useful in addressing security advisories.
In this respect I want to add - does the yum PRESTO plug-in works with SL6.1?

 The SL6 Deployment Guide mentions this plugin, but I'm not clear if SL6
 supports this since the plugin requires a significant amount of work in the
 yum repositories.

 I installed this plugin on a brand new SL6.1 installation, but I'm not
 getting any information out of it:

 SL61 # yum list-sec cves
 Loaded plugins: security
 updateinfo list done
 SL61 #

 I've searched around for an answer to this, but I haven't found much
 information.

 Thank you!

 -= Stefan

 [1] http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/01/16/tips-and-tricks-yum-security/
 [2]
 ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/documents/tuv/6/Deployment.Guide.html#sec-Plugin_Descriptions


 --
 Stefan Lasiewski Email: stef...@nersc.gov
 Computer System Engineer III    Email: slasiew...@lbl.gov
 Networking, Security, and Servers Group

 National Energy Research Scientific Computing Center
 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory







Re: sl6.1 and sl6x

2011-09-17 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM, jdow j...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On 2011/09/17 01:06, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcianka...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Tanmoy Chatterjeebum@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Connie Siehcs...@fnal.gov  wrote:

 On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 Is there any difference between Sl6.1 and SL6x repositories? Do I need
 to enable only of these two or both?

 sl6x is a symbolic link to the current release.  So at the moment
 sl6x
 points to sl6.1 since sl6.1 is the current release.  When we release
 sl6.2
 then sl6x will point to sl6.2 .

 So you need to pick 1 .  If you pick sl6x you will updated via the yum
 cron
 job to the next release when it is released.

 Thanks for the elaboration - so it is a good idea to enable the SL6x
 repositories instead of SL6.1.

 It's a choice, and it's actually a reasonable one to select 6.1. If
 you follow the model of The Upstream Vendor, the 5.0, 5.1, 5.2
 releases are all supposed to upgrade in place, automatically, to get
 all current packages. 6.0 and 6.1 are timestamps for media
 releases, and do not represent a different software repository
 maintained by them. This avoids the amazing pain some of us had to
 deal with for years, back with the original releases back when their
 old 7.0 and 7.2 releases were likely to be incompatible.

 This way works better, by not trying to split support among so many
 sub releases.

 Our friendly maintainers at Scientific Linux, understandably, don't
 quite follow that, but with their common 5x repository, and
 rolling releases, it's pretty close. I really appreciate using that
 one or two repositories, instead of having to mix and match from point
 releases.

 Have really got confused after going through your entire post - so I
 am asking again - is it better to enable SL6X than SL6.1?

 At some point you have to accept responsibility for the choice based on
 your specific needs. If you need a stable system with minimal changes
 use 6.1. If you can accept a little additional risk and want product
 updates as they are folded in then select 6.x.
Actually using Ubuntu 10.04 - I have found automatic upgradation takes
place via update process and without any problem ( i.e from 10.04.1 -
10.04.2 - 10.04.3).
   This method here is different! Now if I enable SL6.1
repositories only - then when the SL6.2 repo gets available - will it
be available through the gui SL addons  yum..   or the method is
different ?

 On my machine here I have two very demanding customers, me and my partner.
 I kept it on 6.0 until the VM version I have looked stable with 6.1 and
 there were no complaints. So I moved to 6.1 on the firewall machine. It
 promptly tossed its X11 cookies with either nouveau (which I had setup
 and working on 6.0) and nVidia drivers which I tried in frustration. The
 next kernel update fixed the problem. (I was able to work around it since
 I mostly administer from command-line anyway. And startx worked if I
 told it to use a display other than the first one.)

 So moving from 6.1 to 6.2 MIGHT cause problems that sticking with 6.1
 and security updates only might avoid. But, then, it might not. What
 level of risk are you willing to take, very low or very very low? That
I can go up until that point when it becomes essential to reinstall
the entire system.
Then the very reason of installing SL ( instead of Fedora or similar
distributions with 6 month release cycle) gets diluted.
 is your call to make. You're you and I'm me. We face different demands.
Thanks.

 {^_^}    Joanne



sl6.1 and sl6x

2011-09-16 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
Is there any difference between Sl6.1 and SL6x repositories? Do I need
to enable only of these two or both?

Thanks for any suggetion.


Re: sl6.1 and sl6x

2011-09-16 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Connie Sieh cs...@fnal.gov wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 Is there any difference between Sl6.1 and SL6x repositories? Do I need
 to enable only of these two or both?

 sl6x is a symbolic link to the current release.  So at the moment sl6x
 points to sl6.1 since sl6.1 is the current release.  When we release sl6.2
 then sl6x will point to sl6.2 .

 So you need to pick 1 .  If you pick sl6x you will updated via the yum cron
 job to the next release when it is released.
Thanks for the elaboration - so it is a good idea to enable the SL6x
repositories instead of SL6.1.
One more thing I want to know is fastbugs updates are safe to install?

 -Connie Sieh

 Thanks for any suggetion.




ESS-emacs package

2011-09-05 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
Hello friends
After recently installing SL6.1, I have tried to find out the Emacs
speaks statistics (ESS) package in the repositories but have been
unable to do so. Can anybody tell me which repository comes with this
package?

Thanks.


Fwd: ADSL/pppoe configuration

2011-08-29 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
-- Forwarded message --
From: Tanmoy Chatterjee bum@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: ADSL/pppoe configuration
To: Urs Beyerle urs.beye...@env.ethz.ch


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Urs Beyerle urs.beye...@env.ethz.ch wrote:
 Hi,

 On 08/28/2011 11:21 PM, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 Hello friends
 I am a novice linux user and I have just installed SL6.1 from liveCD.
 Now I want to connect to internet and my ISP use ADSL/pppoe type of
 connection. I use rp-pppoe to connect to the internet when in Fedora
 13. But the problem is that I have to download that package here first
 which I can't do without a net connection. In RHEL 6 Deployment guide
 I have found some work around with pppd but have not been able to
 figure it out. Googling about it also comes with the solution of
 RP-pppoe.

 1) Can anybody direct me to a HOW-TO about the method ( pppd or
 something for which I don't have to download a package) ?

 2) Why I can't use the NM applet and the DSL tab there to configure
 pppoe connection ?

 Thanks in advance.

 Since you could write this email I assume that you are somehow connected to
 the internet. If you know how to do it with rp-pppoe, I would simply
Yes I am connected to internet via System  Preferences  Network
Connections  DSL tab. But connecting through this way have some
problems.
 download the rp-pppoe rpm and put it on an USB stick.
3) I can do that. But after checking the RHEL Deployment guide - they
have not mentioned this method for pppoe connection - as not being a
computer student I want to know what the standard practice in this
case for distribution such as RHEL.

4) Also why the Sys  Pref  Net Con  DSL tab can not give a pppoe
connection like rp-pppoe does.

 for 32bit:
 http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/i386/os/Packages/rp-pppoe-3.10-8.el6.i686.rpm

 for 64 bit:
 http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/x86_64/os/Packages/rp-pppoe-3.10-8.el6.x86_64.rpm

 Insert the USB stick into the SL61 system and install rp-pppoeas root:

 su -
 cd to_your_usb_stick
 yum localinstall rp-pppoe-3.10-8.el6.i686.rpm

 Cheers,
Thanks for your reply.

    Urs




Re: ADSL/pppoe configuration

2011-08-29 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Andreas Petzold
andreas.petz...@kit.edu wrote:
 On Sunday, August 28, 2011 23:21:45 Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 2) Why I can't use the NM applet and the DSL tab there to configure
 pppoe connection ?

 I don't think there is a reason not to use NM to configure your DSL
 connection. It works me since Fedora 10 or so.
I have tried that since I started using linux with Ubuntu 9.04 but few
problems arise - check the following link and last page
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359972

In NM configuration of pppoe I have entered the information of User id
and password as in the case with rp-pppoe configuration and nothing
else since I don't have other infos ( DNS, netmask etc) - with these
rp-pppoe works without any problem but NM configuration face problem
as in the link above.
If you done things differently kindly mention those things.
Thanks.

        Cheers,

                Andreas






Re: Fwd: ADSL/pppoe configuration

2011-08-29 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Steven J. Yellin
yel...@slac.stanford.edu wrote:
    You may already understand what I'm about to write, but it's possible
 that you're enough of a newbie that you've misunderstood the role of rpms,
 so I'll explain anyway:
    Downloading a rpm, like rp-pppoe, is not a method of connection; it's
 part of a proceedure for getting the rp-pppoe software into your computer if
 it isn't already there.  If the command

 rpm -q rp-pppoe

 shows that the package is already there (compare with what you get for a
 non-existent rpm as in 'rpm -q Tanmoy') then there's no point in again
 putting it into your computer via a USB stick.  The rpm should be installed
 once, and then never needs to be installed again.  In the case of a
 distribution such as RHEL, standard practice is to have necessary rpms
 installed initially as part of the original system.  It would be somewhat
 surprising if that didn't happen with rp-pppoe.
I think I have failed to clearly point out my problem. I know how to
set-up pppoe connection via Roaring Penguin software rp-pppoe as I
have already done so with my Fedora 13 and Ubuntu partitions.
As I am currently installing SL from Livecd which does not come with
that rp-pppoe package. So that I have to download it somehow and then
install it to set up a pppoe connection. That's why I am asking
whether there are any other software/method to set up pppoe connection
in SL?
My confusion increases with googling and after going through RHEL
documents - I have found some suggestions there as how to configure it
with pppd. Just want to know how is it different than the software we
are dicussing rp-pppoe and is there some easy steps to do so.

 Steven Yellin

 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 ...
 On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Urs Beyerle urs.beye...@env.ethz.ch
 wrote:
 ...

 download the rp-pppoe rpm and put it on an USB stick.

 3) I can do that. But after checking the RHEL Deployment guide - they
 have not mentioned this method for pppoe connection - as not being a
 computer student I want to know what the standard practice in this
 case for distribution such as RHEL.

 ...



Re: Fwd: ADSL/pppoe configuration

2011-08-29 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Mark Stodola stod...@pelletron.com wrote:
 Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Steven J. Yellin
 yel...@slac.stanford.edu wrote:


   You may already understand what I'm about to write, but it's possible
 that you're enough of a newbie that you've misunderstood the role of
 rpms,
 so I'll explain anyway:
   Downloading a rpm, like rp-pppoe, is not a method of connection; it's
 part of a proceedure for getting the rp-pppoe software into your computer
 if
 it isn't already there.  If the command

 rpm -q rp-pppoe

 shows that the package is already there (compare with what you get for a
 non-existent rpm as in 'rpm -q Tanmoy') then there's no point in again
 putting it into your computer via a USB stick.  The rpm should be
 installed
 once, and then never needs to be installed again.  In the case of a
 distribution such as RHEL, standard practice is to have necessary rpms
 installed initially as part of the original system.  It would be somewhat
 surprising if that didn't happen with rp-pppoe.


 I think I have failed to clearly point out my problem. I know how to
 set-up pppoe connection via Roaring Penguin software rp-pppoe as I
 have already done so with my Fedora 13 and Ubuntu partitions.
 As I am currently installing SL from Livecd which does not come with
 that rp-pppoe package. So that I have to download it somehow and then
 install it to set up a pppoe connection. That's why I am asking
 whether there are any other software/method to set up pppoe connection
 in SL?
 My confusion increases with googling and after going through RHEL
 documents - I have found some suggestions there as how to configure it
 with pppd. Just want to know how is it different than the software we
 are dicussing rp-pppoe and is there some easy steps to do so.


 Steven Yellin

 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Tanmoy Chatterjee wrote:



 ...
 On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Urs Beyerle urs.beye...@env.ethz.ch
 wrote:
 ...


 download the rp-pppoe rpm and put it on an USB stick.


 3) I can do that. But after checking the RHEL Deployment guide - they
 have not mentioned this method for pppoe connection - as not being a
 computer student I want to know what the standard practice in this
 case for distribution such as RHEL.

 ...


 I'm still not sure what you are trying to accomplish.  If you have other
 linux distributions on other partitions, can't you simply wget the RPM from
 there, reboot to SL, mount the other OS's partition and copy/install it from
 there?

 http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/i386/os/Packages/rp-pppoe-3.10-8.el6.i686.rpm
 Change release/arch as needed...

 Why go through all of the trouble of cobbling your connection via other
 means?  Sounds like you are trying to make it harder than it actually is.

ACTUALLY I WANT TO KNOW IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY - but it seems to me
there is only one way - check the following link -

http://www.lampdocs.com/home-personal/pppoe-connection/

Thanks


 -Mark

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ADSL/pppoe configuration

2011-08-28 Thread Tanmoy Chatterjee
Hello friends
I am a novice linux user and I have just installed SL6.1 from liveCD.
Now I want to connect to internet and my ISP use ADSL/pppoe type of
connection. I use rp-pppoe to connect to the internet when in Fedora
13. But the problem is that I have to download that package here first
which I can't do without a net connection. In RHEL 6 Deployment guide
I have found some work around with pppd but have not been able to
figure it out. Googling about it also comes with the solution of
RP-pppoe.

1) Can anybody direct me to a HOW-TO about the method ( pppd or
something for which I don't have to download a package) ?

2) Why I can't use the NM applet and the DSL tab there to configure
pppoe connection ?

Thanks in advance.