Re: Clean SL 5.4 Install and Anaconda Disk Partitioning Madness

2010-03-25 Thread Brent L. Bates
 Thanks for all the suggestions.  Anaconda still did some rearranging, but
I eventually figured out what I needed to do to get what I wanted.  I had to
use `Edit' to set the starting and ending cylinders as well as use the
Primary Partition check box.  I had to use `Edit' for all the partitions.  I
tried `Add' for the last partition and let it go to the end of the drive
automatically, but it stopped short of the end, so I had to use `Edit' in
order to use the full drive space.  I assembled all my partitions into their
respective software RAID's, set file system type, mount points, and clicked
`Next'.

 New problem, it now says XFS is not valid for a boot partition.  Hogwash!
 All my systems use XFS for boot partitions.  I've got systems running SL
3.0.5, SL 4.5, and one running SL 5.3 all with ONLY XFS files systems
including /boot.  Any ideas on getting past this new hurdle?  Thanks.

 Oh, in order to get XFS listed as a valid file system, I had to add `xfs'
to the `linux' line when I started up the install.

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Clean SL 5.4 Install and Anaconda Disk Partitioning Madness

2010-03-24 Thread Brent L. Bates
 I've been searching Google for answers and can't find any, so I decided
to check here.

 I'm trying to do a clean install of SL 5.4.  I'm booting from an SL 5.4
x86_64 DVD.  When I get to the point of custom partitioning my drives,
Anaconda makes a mess of things.  I have 4 drives and I want 4 partions on
each drive.  The first partion will be `/boot', next `/', then `/data', and
finally a swap partion.  As I create each partition on each drive, Anaconda
will suddenly rearrange the order of the partions.  When I go onto another
drive, the order may be different than the last drive I just partitioned.
 When I try to do the 4th and last partition, I get an `Extended' 4th partion
(which is empty) and a real 5th partition, instead of a simple single
partition.

 In the end, what I want is the first partition on each drive combined
into a software RAID 1 and be `/boot'.  The next 2 sets will be software RAID
0's and `/'  `/data'.  The final partitions will be 4 separate swap
partitions that the OS will take care of.

 I've tried creating all the partitions on one drive and then moving onto
the next one and the next one, but it scrambles things up.  I've tried
creating the first partition on each drive, then combining them into the RAID
1 md0 device, and specifying the files system type, and mount point `/boot'.
 Next I go onto the next partition, which I've tried as a software RAID 0
partition and swap at various times.  This one usually works, but not always.
 When I get to the 3rd partition, then it will suddenly rearrange the
partitions on that drive.  I've even seen it suddenly create a swap partition
on a different drive than what I'm actually working on.

 I've done this with earlier versions of SL, but I don't remember having
this much trouble with Anaconda randomly rearranging things and creating an
extra unneeded partion.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

-- 

  Brent L. Bates (UNIX Sys. Admin.)
  M.S. 912  Phone:(757) 865-1400, x204
  NASA Langley Research CenterFAX:(757) 865-8177
  Hampton, Virginia  23681-0001
  Email: b.l.ba...@larc.nasa.govhttp://www.vigyan.com/~blbates/


Re: Clean SL 5.4 Install and Anaconda Disk Partitioning Madness

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Stodola

Brent L. Bates wrote:

 I've been searching Google for answers and can't find any, so I decided
to check here.

 I'm trying to do a clean install of SL 5.4.  I'm booting from an SL 5.4
x86_64 DVD.  When I get to the point of custom partitioning my drives,
Anaconda makes a mess of things.  I have 4 drives and I want 4 partions on
each drive.  The first partion will be `/boot', next `/', then `/data', and
finally a swap partion.  As I create each partition on each drive, Anaconda
will suddenly rearrange the order of the partions.  When I go onto another
drive, the order may be different than the last drive I just partitioned.
 When I try to do the 4th and last partition, I get an `Extended' 4th partion
(which is empty) and a real 5th partition, instead of a simple single
partition.

 In the end, what I want is the first partition on each drive combined
into a software RAID 1 and be `/boot'.  The next 2 sets will be software RAID
0's and `/'  `/data'.  The final partitions will be 4 separate swap
partitions that the OS will take care of.

 I've tried creating all the partitions on one drive and then moving onto
the next one and the next one, but it scrambles things up.  I've tried
creating the first partition on each drive, then combining them into the RAID
1 md0 device, and specifying the files system type, and mount point `/boot'.
 Next I go onto the next partition, which I've tried as a software RAID 0
partition and swap at various times.  This one usually works, but not always.
 When I get to the 3rd partition, then it will suddenly rearrange the
partitions on that drive.  I've even seen it suddenly create a swap partition
on a different drive than what I'm actually working on.

 I've done this with earlier versions of SL, but I don't remember having
this much trouble with Anaconda randomly rearranging things and creating an
extra unneeded partion.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks


I've noticed anaconda likes to try and be smarter than you.  Quite 
annoying.  You can probably solve this by specifying things explicitly 
in a kickstart file, pre-partitioning the disk using fdisk/sfdisk, or 
fiddling with the force primary partition check box and the order you 
specify the partitions in anaconda.  I've worked in the reverse order 
over the years, manually tricking anaconda, then forcing an sfdisk dump 
in, and finally resorted to tailoring a kickstart to do my bidding 
because disk sizes aren't constant for me.


Hope that helps a bit.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: Clean SL 5.4 Install and Anaconda Disk Partitioning Madness

2010-03-24 Thread Troy Dawson

Brent L. Bates wrote:

 I've been searching Google for answers and can't find any, so I decided
to check here.

 I'm trying to do a clean install of SL 5.4.  I'm booting from an SL 5.4
x86_64 DVD.  When I get to the point of custom partitioning my drives,
Anaconda makes a mess of things.  I have 4 drives and I want 4 partions on
each drive.  The first partion will be `/boot', next `/', then `/data', and
finally a swap partion.  As I create each partition on each drive, Anaconda
will suddenly rearrange the order of the partions.  When I go onto another
drive, the order may be different than the last drive I just partitioned.
 When I try to do the 4th and last partition, I get an `Extended' 4th partion
(which is empty) and a real 5th partition, instead of a simple single
partition.

 In the end, what I want is the first partition on each drive combined
into a software RAID 1 and be `/boot'.  The next 2 sets will be software RAID
0's and `/'  `/data'.  The final partitions will be 4 separate swap
partitions that the OS will take care of.

 I've tried creating all the partitions on one drive and then moving onto
the next one and the next one, but it scrambles things up.  I've tried
creating the first partition on each drive, then combining them into the RAID
1 md0 device, and specifying the files system type, and mount point `/boot'.
 Next I go onto the next partition, which I've tried as a software RAID 0
partition and swap at various times.  This one usually works, but not always.
 When I get to the 3rd partition, then it will suddenly rearrange the
partitions on that drive.  I've even seen it suddenly create a swap partition
on a different drive than what I'm actually working on.

 I've done this with earlier versions of SL, but I don't remember having
this much trouble with Anaconda randomly rearranging things and creating an
extra unneeded partion.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.



What *I* would do with something that complicated.
I would do a Ctrl-Alt-F2 on the screen before that and do all the 
partitions by hand.  Then on the customizing screen, you just have to 
link them together.


But if you are going to do it by the graphical install, make *sure* that 
you select Primary Partition for each and every partition.  The one 
partition that you don't do that to is going to get popped over to an 
extended partition.


Troy
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Re: Clean SL 5.4 Install and Anaconda Disk Partitioning Madness

2010-03-24 Thread Eve V. E. Kovacs
And when you are doing your custom layout, select RAID rather than New in 
the menu for making partitions. The RAID option allows you to setup 
partitions on different disks and then combine them into a software raid.
You can select the RAID type, and which partitions go into each RAID 
device. I have used this many times, and Troy is correct: as long as you 
use the force primary partition option, the partitions do not get moved around.

Eve

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Troy Dawson wrote:


Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:29:59 -0500
From: Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov
To: Brent L. Bates blba...@vigyan.com
Cc: Scientific Linux Users mailing list scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Clean SL 5.4 Install and Anaconda Disk Partitioning Madness

Brent L. Bates wrote:
 I've been searching Google for answers and can't find any, so I 
decided

to check here.

 I'm trying to do a clean install of SL 5.4.  I'm booting from an SL 
5.4

x86_64 DVD.  When I get to the point of custom partitioning my drives,
Anaconda makes a mess of things.  I have 4 drives and I want 4 partions on
each drive.  The first partion will be `/boot', next `/', then `/data', and
finally a swap partion.  As I create each partition on each drive, Anaconda
will suddenly rearrange the order of the partions.  When I go onto another
drive, the order may be different than the last drive I just partitioned.
 When I try to do the 4th and last partition, I get an `Extended' 4th 
partion

(which is empty) and a real 5th partition, instead of a simple single
partition.

 In the end, what I want is the first partition on each drive combined
into a software RAID 1 and be `/boot'.  The next 2 sets will be software 
RAID

0's and `/'  `/data'.  The final partitions will be 4 separate swap
partitions that the OS will take care of.

 I've tried creating all the partitions on one drive and then moving 
onto

the next one and the next one, but it scrambles things up.  I've tried
creating the first partition on each drive, then combining them into the 
RAID
1 md0 device, and specifying the files system type, and mount point 
`/boot'.

 Next I go onto the next partition, which I've tried as a software RAID 0
partition and swap at various times.  This one usually works, but not 
always.

 When I get to the 3rd partition, then it will suddenly rearrange the
partitions on that drive.  I've even seen it suddenly create a swap 
partition

on a different drive than what I'm actually working on.

 I've done this with earlier versions of SL, but I don't remember 
having

this much trouble with Anaconda randomly rearranging things and creating an
extra unneeded partion.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks.




What *I* would do with something that complicated.
I would do a Ctrl-Alt-F2 on the screen before that and do all the 
partitions by hand.  Then on the customizing screen, you just have to link 
them together.


But if you are going to do it by the graphical install, make *sure* that you 
select Primary Partition for each and every partition.  The one partition 
that you don't do that to is going to get popped over to an extended 
partition.


Troy
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Troy Dawson  daw...@fnal.gov  (630)840-6468
Fermilab  ComputingDivision/LSCS/CSI/USS Group
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